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The .45 makes a comeback during the war on terrorism
World Tribune ^ | 5 April 2004 | Christopher Holton

Posted on 04/09/2004 2:26:56 PM PDT by 45Auto

In 1911 the U.S. military adopted a new sidearm: John Browning’s venerable .45 caliber automatic pistol. That pistol served with distinction as our armed forces’ standard sidearm into the 1980s, when it was officially replaced by the Beretta M9 9mm automatic pistol. In recent years, however, the 1911 Model .45, in a more modern guise, has been enjoying a renaissance of sorts.

At the time of the M9’s adoption, it was regarded as a more modern design and thus a suitable replacement for the tried and true .45, many examples of which were very elderly and worn out, giving it an undeserved reputation for unreliability. The .45 never found much acceptance in law enforcement circles over the course of the 20th century. There were a variety of reasons for this, almost none of them legitimate:

Most law enforcement agencies saw the 1911 Model’s single action design as unsafe, a false assumption usually borne of ignorance. The fact is, the “old” single action design has several safety advantages over the more “modern” double action designs that have emerged over the past few decades.

Many leaders within the law enforcement community view the 1911 Model .45 as difficult to learn to shoot and master. Under budgetary restraints, some law enforcement agencies have been forced to cut corners on firearms training. It is cheaper and quicker to teach a trainee to just “point and squeeze” with a 9mm double action with a high magazine capacity. In recent years, however, the .45 has been making a comeback, thanks in large part to the revolutionary efforts of a company named Kimber.

Since 1999, Kimber .45s have been unofficially and officially adopted by military and law enforcement units at the front of the war on terrorism:

Throughout the U.S. military's special operations community (USSOCOM), literally the "tip of the spear" in the war on terrorism, Kimber .45s are seeing increasing use as the severe limitations of the so-called modern M9 have become apparent. The M9 was a good concept, but in practice it has proven to be less durable in operational use than was hoped. More to the point, as .45 users have known for several decades, the 9mm cartridge is downright anemic in terms of stopping power. Special operations forces must have a sidearm that is completely reliable under severe conditions: the proven 1911 design has never been surpassed in terms of reliability or durability. Special operators also need a weapon with stopping power. The .45 automatic is unquestionably equal to or better than any other widely used automatic pistol cartridge in the world. It has even been rumored that General Tommy Franks carried a Kimber .45 as his personal sidearm during Operation Iraqi Freedom.

In 2001, the elite Los Angeles Police Department SWAT team shocked the law enforcement community when it adopted the Kimber .45 automatic as its official sidearm. LAPD SWAT is considered one of the most important counterterrorist units in the U.S. law enforcement community, having been primarily responsible for security at the 1984 Olympics. Today, the unit is the first line of defense against terrorists in one of America's largest metropolitan areas. LAPD SWAT was not actually the first law enforcement agency to adopt the Kimber .45. In 1999, the Tacoma, Washington police department raised some eye brows when it authorized its officers to carry the Kimber .45 in the line of duty. In the selection process, a variety of pistols were tested and put through the paces. The Tacoma PD was shocked at the reliability demonstrated by the Kimber. In fact, they were not able to produce a single malfunction in the test pistols provided by Kimber and they began to "smell a rat." They suspected that Kimber had supplied them with "ringers" — specially assembled examples — to test, rather than regular production pistols, such as their officers would carry in the event that the pistol was adopted.

So, the Tacoma police went out to local firearms dealers and purchased pistols "off the shelf" for further testing. To their astonishment, these Kimber .45s performed just as well as the pistols originally supplied by the company which were erroneously suspected to be "ringers."

Today, in addition to LAPD, Tacoma PD and USSOCOM, first responders across America use the Kimber .45, as evidenced by the fact that SWAT teams in the following cities issue the pistol to their members:

Seminole TX PD Petersburg AK PD Raton NM PD Ault CO PD Kerville TX PD Lake County MT Sheriff Loveland CO PD Mentor OH PD Umatilla WA PD Whitman City Sheriff Grey GA PD Bremfield OH PD

Traditional design meets space age manufacturing

How did Kimber, a company that had never manufactured a pistol before the 1990s, bring about the renaissance of the 1911 .45? By marrying John Browning’s proven century-old, robust and reliable design with a high-tech, state of the art manufacturing process.

Because Kimber was relatively new to the manufacture of the 1911 model, they were literally able to start from scratch with a brand new factory—called by some the most modern, fully computerized gun factory in America.

The first priority was CAD/CAM (Computer Assisted Design/Computer Assisted Manufacturing). Before making a single pistol, Kimber invested $1 million in a CAD/CAM system that had never been employed in the manufacture of a 1911 .45 automatic before. By using CAD/CAM, the Kimber’s tolerances are up to 3 times as tight as traditionally manufactured .45s.

While the dimensions of every part is important, the two most critical dimensions and fits on a 1911 are:

Slide-to-frame Barrel-to-bushing-to-slide These fits largely determine the reliability and accuracy of the pistol. The better the fit and the tighter the dimensions, the better the reliability and accuracy. It is in these two aspects that the modern manufacturing process at Kimber produces superior results. The result is a century-old design with accuracy and dependability equal or better to even the most recent pistol designs.

In the interests of full disclosure, I think it is only proper to inform the reader that I am not without bias when it comes to .45 automatics. I have been a .45 owner/enthusiast since my military days when my father gave me my first .45—a Colt Government Model-- as a gift for my 21st birthday. Over the past 20 years, I have owned and shot competitively (but not very!) .45s from Colt and Springfield Armory.

However, upon my introduction to Kimber in 2001, I am a devoted Kimber shooter exclusively. I own three Kimber .45s and their performance straight out of the box is superior to other .45s that I own that have been heavily customized at the cost of hundreds of dollars in aftermarket parts and pistolsmithing. Almost immediately the Kimber made me a better shooter.

I attribute this to the consistency of their manufacturing process and the high quality of each of the components. I imagine these are the same attributes that made our military and law enforcement heroes select the Kimber .45 as well.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 1911a1; 45; bang; banglist; johnmosesbrowning; m1911a1; meusoc
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1 posted on 04/09/2004 2:26:56 PM PDT by 45Auto
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To: *bang_list
Thank God!

A REAL gun story to start off the weekend with a BANG!
2 posted on 04/09/2004 2:28:46 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: 45Auto
10mm is the way to go.
3 posted on 04/09/2004 2:29:47 PM PDT by cruiserman
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To: glock rocks; NRA2BFree
.45 caliber bump.
4 posted on 04/09/2004 2:30:49 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: All

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5 posted on 04/09/2004 2:31:35 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (If Woody had gone straight to the police, this would never have happened!)
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To: 45Auto
At the time of the M9’s adoption, it was regarded as a more modern design and thus a suitable replacement for the tried and true .45, many examples of which were very elderly and worn out, giving it an undeserved reputation for unreliability.

Gosh, I must have three of the few 1911s that function flawlessly. Lucky me!

6 posted on 04/09/2004 2:32:21 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: cruiserman
10mm is over and done with, it ended up a 40 S&W. No one even makes the 10mm now.
7 posted on 04/09/2004 2:36:06 PM PDT by Clean_Sweep
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To: Euro-American Scum
Force and Division Recon in the USMC never gave it up. I imagine that many officers in the regular rifle companies still carry them too. Socom have there own "special" 45 made by HK - it is not a 1911.
8 posted on 04/09/2004 2:37:38 PM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: All
9mm is great if all you want to do is spray and pray. When you want to waste the enemy, .45 is the way to go.

While I have shot several Kimber .45's, I haven't purchased one. I do have a Colt M1991 but my preferred .45 is my H&K USP.

9 posted on 04/09/2004 2:38:31 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: 45Auto
I have my dad's old army issue Colt, from WWII. It shoots just fine, thank you, and I consider it a treasure, but I suppose it's less accurate than the Kimber, from what I just read.
10 posted on 04/09/2004 2:38:46 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: 45Auto
My Kimber .45 is the finest gun I own.
11 posted on 04/09/2004 2:38:54 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: CasearianDaoist
Socom have there own "special" 45 made by HK - it is not a 1911.

Can't argue with HK, even though it would not be my first choice. But I'm a creature of habit. Give me a 1911 every time.

12 posted on 04/09/2004 2:40:34 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: Euro-American Scum
While I have nothing against the M9 (I own a Beretta Model 96 - the .40 S and W version of the M9) the Model of 1911A1 is my favorite autoloader. It matters little to me what company actually manufactures any particular 1911; the beauty of the gun is that it chambers the .45 ACP (yes, I know the 10mm packs quite a wallop) and "big holes are almost always better." Also there are literally dozens of manufacturers of both the pistols and aftermarket parts which, for the most part, are completely interchangeable. Building a custom pistol for carry, target, or serious competition is simply a matter of how much money you are willing to spend or how much work you are willing to do on a particular gun. The latter makes the 1911A1 a great "hobbyists" gun. I've never seen a 1911 so badly screwed up that it could not be renovated, nor one that malfunctioned to the point where it could not be "tweaked".
13 posted on 04/09/2004 2:41:58 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: Euro-American Scum
My first encounter with the M1911A1 was around 1960, a national match version my father had. While it was really too much pistol for a slight 12-year old, it was a fine pistol. Accurate and reliable. I have fired many .45s in the service, and many of them were real dogs. I think the reliability issues were mostly about accuracy, not functional reliabilty, because I've seen .45s buried in mud or sand, brushed off,, cocked and a whole magazine fired off without problem. But, in my experience on active duty most soldiers never learn to shoot the .45 with any accuracy. They're afraid of the recoil, and uncomfortable with the weight.

I'd love to try a Kimber.

14 posted on 04/09/2004 2:44:56 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: Euro-American Scum

15 posted on 04/09/2004 2:46:14 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: COEXERJ145
9mm is great if all you want to do is spray and pray.

Depends on the ammo and distance. At 100+ yards, I have little problem hitting with 9mm, but .45 fails. Even at close range, my 9mm gold dot 147 grainers at about 1000 fps seem to peerform every bit as well as standard .45 loads in gelatin and have significantly more penetration.

16 posted on 04/09/2004 2:47:10 PM PDT by templar
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To: Beelzebubba

17 posted on 04/09/2004 2:47:26 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: 45Auto
I am a devoted Kimber shooter exclusively

I'll keep my ParaOrdnance, thank you. .45auto X 15rnds. I've been wondering if it could handle a conversion to 400 Corbon or .45 Super.

18 posted on 04/09/2004 2:47:36 PM PDT by XHogPilot
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To: 45Auto
I believe it was Charles Askins Jr years ago in a gun mag article told how the 9mm was a great cartridge. In talking to an Englishman who used one in WWII, the Englishman said it worked well on Frenchmen.

Oh well, enough said.
19 posted on 04/09/2004 2:47:47 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (DEMS STILL LIE like yellow dogs.)
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To: Clean_Sweep
10mm is over and done with, it ended up a 40 S&W. No one even makes the 10mm now.

Glock 20, 20C, 29

Tangfolio Witness 10mm, 10mm Compact

Kimber Stainless Target II 10mm

Dan Wesson Razorback 10mm, Global Hunter 10mm

S&W 610 4", 5", 6"

SVI Infinity 10mm hicap and traditional frame

STI 10mm hicap and traditional frame

T-C Contender pistol and carbine

Olympic Arms CAR-97 10mm

And I've probably missed a few others. Plus, every major ammunition maker lists multiple loads in their current catalogs. Best auto pistol cartridge ever.

20 posted on 04/09/2004 2:47:51 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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