To: Texaggie79
The next easiest way to destroy a nation is to destroy it's economic base. That is why Osama went after the trade towers and the centers of national government and of defense. This is no secret. It is why we used to have anti-dumping laws - to protect the economy and to keep US workers from being put out of business by foreign trade.
I don't know why you guys keep repeating this stuff because it's a lie on it's face. It is the government's job to secure the economy as a national defense measure. They haven't done it. And Nafta has, as a result, aided in the decline of our economy after it began to tank and was helped along by Osama.
That may not make you happy to hear, but that's the facts.
The government didn't secure employment for specific citizens, and that's not what I'm asking. It secured the economy in a way prior that would have prevented me from being put out of work the way I have been. It is too late.
Government has already screwed me. The companies just did what they had to as a result of policy the government put in place - unconstitutional as that policy is. I expect the Government to correct it for everyone else. Me, I'll worry about fixing myself cause the government has already screwed me and made it quite clear I'm not worth helping. I'm just a citizen of the US. I'm nobody special. I wasn't given the due process that the constitution says I have a right to before doing something that effectively took my job away from me.
Let's face reality here. My job isn't outmoded, it isn't being replaced by another technology, it didn't go away due to being obsolete, I didn't get bought out by a local competitor, I didn't lose it because I did a bad job or because market forces put a stateside competitor in a better position. I lost my job because the mexicans can't seem to create their own jobs #1, because the mexican cost of living is far lower #2, Because as a result of the mexican cost of living being far lower, a worker there can work for what constitutes sub-poverty wages here #3, and because nafta did away with restrictions keeping foriegn business interests from undercutting US prices to bankrupt US companies and take over our market #4. I lost my job because the US government decided not to protect our market anymore the way they decided not to protect our southern and northern borders any more, the way they decided not to do on the ground intelligence. The way they decided not to let the FBI and CIA talk to each other. I'm out of a job because the US government dropped the ball and started something in motion that just got to me. And I'm not asking for government assistance. I'm demanding the damned government get off it's laurels and start doing it's job at least as hard as I was doing mine before they lost it for me.
I secured employment for myself and Government policy got me. What do you want to hear from me, that it isn't their fault that it's their fault for looking out for the interests of business instead of looking out for the interests of us citizens. I must have missed that part in the constitution where it says of for and by big business.
I keep hearing it's not their responsibility to look out for me; but, actually, that is their primary responsibility, is it not? Not to get me a job, but to get out of my way so I can do for myself and not deprive me of what I have without due process - isn't that what the constitution says. Where was and is my due process? I guess that's a good place to start. Government policy took my job. Where is my due process. Where is my equal protection under the 14th ammendment? I mean, I was put out for essentially not being a mexican in Mexico or in other cases, people have been put out for not being an indian in india. They had no say either, no due process, no protection against descrimination based on national origin. And no, it isn't a race thing, and that's not what I'm charging, it's a national origin thing - I'm an american in an american economy. I was put out of work because of that and that alone. And if that doesn't fall under equal protection, I'll eat my seat, my computer and all. And I think I can find a constitutional lawyer to back me up. Probably a bunch of them. I got canned because I'm an American working in America. Any lawyers present that want a client? Isn't that how we do things nowdays...
94 posted on
04/09/2004 2:35:44 PM PDT by
Havoc
("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
To: Havoc
"Nafta has, as a result, aided in the decline of our economy after it began to tank and was helped along by Osama."
If NAFTA has aided the "decline" of our economy, why are *more* people employed overall, and at higher salaries today, than back in 1993 when it was ratified?
96 posted on
04/09/2004 2:41:14 PM PDT by
Southack
(Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: Havoc
It is the government's job to secure the economy as a national defense measure.One who is educated in economics would know that to best secure the economy is to protect it from regulation and unfair levies. Capitalism is a beautiful thing when it is allowed to do its magic. There is no need at all for government to impose restrictions on it, unless it compromises national security or violates rights of individuals (having "fair" hours and "fair" pay is not a right, it is a luxury that is your responsibility to get). The only job of the government beyond protecting our rights and our national security as far as jobs are concerned is to make sure that businesses are free to practice as they choose.
Government has already screwed me. It has screwed you by putting regulations in place that force businesses to look for employees overseas.
because the mexican cost of living is far lower
So you are telling me that you cannot acquire a skill that a poor mexican laborer cannot?
Not to get me a job, but to get out of my way so I can do for myself and not deprive me of what I have without due process - isn't that what the constitution says.
But you fail to see that "Big Business" is comprised of single citizens who depend on that business for their living. They should be just as free to pursue any means necessary to succeed, that does not violate the rights of others. If I, as a business owner wished to hire programmers out of New Zeland for $10 a day, which I actually did some time ago, it is my right.
120 posted on
04/09/2004 3:50:50 PM PDT by
Texaggie79
(Did I just say that?)
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