[discostu]

The economy is up, the GDP is up, jobs are growing, manufacturing indexes are up, retail is up. The historic record is RIGHT NOW, everything is up. The cultish one here is you, insisting the sky is falling when there's not a single fact that proves it. Even XBob's latest graphs shows things going UP, good things.

[Havoc]

The economy is up, the GDP is up, jobs are growing, manufacturing indexes are up, retail is up. The historic record is RIGHT NOW, everything is up.

We keep hearing that; but, we have yet to see it. That's called a disconnect.. when your rhetoric and reality don't match up. That's when we start making judgements for ourselves about why we're being lied to. If you tell me niagra falls has stopped falling, I'd expect to be able to see that for myself. If it's still fallin while you say it isn't, I'm not going to proclaim it isn't to belie the facts. I'm going to say it is and that you're a liar and a con man.