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To: Havoc
Good business is things like sending labor to somewhere cheaper, under cutting competition who have too much fat, and expanding market share.

Sorry I don't legitimize hitmen and murder, saying I do is LYING and not appreciated. I legitimize doing business legally and thuroughly. I'm just not stupid enough to think that a business has some ethical obligation to allow competition to thrive or even exist. My standard is that if stupid taxation and regulation drives up labor costs in America so much that manufacturing can no longer be done profitably in America that's AMERICA'S fault, not the businesses moving manufacturing to somewhere cheaper. There's no murder in that, and no equivalent to murder. Stop the lies Havoc, they make you look desperate and stupid.
485 posted on 04/12/2004 12:43:20 PM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: discostu
My standard is that if stupid taxation and regulation drives up labor costs in America so much that manufacturing can no longer be done profitably in America that's AMERICA'S fault,

Well, so far, I haven't seen any business leave because they couldn't make a profit. They have left to make bigger profits because they can offer sub poverty wages in other countries, no benefits and they don't have to worry about such trivial things as worker rights. You know - no osha around to see that the operation is first and foremost, safe.. things like that. And the claim that they can't make a profit here belies the facts on the ground. Again, companies here from other countries competing in our society paying competative wages are having no problem earning a profit. They are under the same restrictions. They just ain't tryin to get a million out of every customer who walks in the door. And this is the same circular bs you guys keep uttering with not a leg to stand on.

Stop the lies Havoc, they make you look desperate and stupid.

Uh, you free traitor types are the ones saying ANY restriction on a business's abiltity to make a profit is wrong, robbery, evil, etc. I mean, for cryin out loud, it's practically ya'lls mantra apart from calling us robbers and thieves for expecting to keep our jobs, saying you can't make a profit here in face of facts to the contrary and trying to denigrate us as evil for trying to put a stop to the damage being done in the name of profit. Again, you can't have it both ways. If it is evil to restrict business activity then it's evil to stop hitmen. If it's not evil to restrict business, then it's ok to outlaw murder and punish hitmen. But then you've surrendered one of your hollow voodoo sticks for sake of argument. Which is it. Is murder ok, or is restricting business ok in order to stave off abuses by businessmen with no scruples.

489 posted on 04/12/2004 1:09:03 PM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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