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To: Havoc
No you don't. When you're competing in the US market your only DUTY is to do so profitably, and if that undercuts others that's their problem not yours.

Yes it is an attack on business, welcome to free market capitalism, it isn't for the weak of heart. Every business is either a lion or a gazelle and they don't usually find out which until blood is shed. It's a kill or be killed world in business, there's only so much money to go around and a business' job is to get as much of it as they can.

No I'm arguing that the duty of a corporation is profit. And anybody that knows anything about business knows that when one company makes profit there's a good chance others are going out of business. You said you used to work for WalMart, how many companies try to compete with WalMart and fail? What happens to those that fail? What I'm saying is stabbing someone in the back is ethical in a war when the other guy is wearing the wrong uniform, and that's what free market capitalism is: war. It's Target vs WalMart vs K-Mart vs Mom&Pop and if the gains of one put one of the others out of business too bad so sad.

Dumping isn't as illegal as you think it is. When my company is getting help from my government so I can sell goods for cheaper than they cost to make it's illegal. But when my company is deliberately losing money on a product in order to draw in customers to buy other products it's no longer called dumping, it's called a loss leader and it's perfectly legal. Grocery stores do it with milk and bread every day, that's why they're on opposite sides of the store, lose money on those common items but hope people buy more stuff as they walk through the store. And if some other grocery store can't afford to take a loss on milk and bread and wind up pricing themselves out of that market guess what happens? They'll probably be out of business in a year.
480 posted on 04/12/2004 11:27:02 AM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: discostu
No you don't. When you're competing in the US market your only DUTY is to do so profitably, and if that undercuts others that's their problem not yours.

Right, so if I murder you for hire, it's your problem, not mine. As long as I make a profit for my company, that's all that matters... (/sarcasm)

483 posted on 04/12/2004 11:53:34 AM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: discostu
Yes it is an attack on business, welcome to free market capitalism, it isn't for the weak of heart. Every business is either a lion or a gazelle and they don't usually find out which until blood is shed. It's a kill or be killed world in business, there's only so much money to go around and a business' job is to get as much of it as they can.

Ah, good. A man after my own heart. It's all about bucks, kid. The rest is...conversation. Just kill everybody else and devil take the hindmost. Ethics, morality, doing the right thing, all of those are for sissies, sentimental Judeo-Christian ethics that are outmoded in the globalist capitalist world. To hell with anything and anyone who gets in the way of the pursuit of the Almighty Dollar. Right on!

No I'm arguing that the duty of a corporation is profit. And anybody that knows anything about business knows that when one company makes profit there's a good chance others are going out of business.

Right. Profit above all. No duty to country, society, or individuals. If those get in the way of making a profit, to hell with them. Profit is God to the decadent, amoral capitalist.

So when I run you out of business and have a monopoly on everything, don't dare stand in my way of abusing you and everyone else. And don't let outmoded concepts like government of the people by the people and for the people even think about standing up to my monopoly. If I want to pay my workers in script that is only redeemable at the company store where I can charge whatever price I want for basic necessities, well, tough, its none of your business. You don't like it, screw you. You can always get another job or start your own business with no money. Oops. Sorry. Can't do that. I have a monopoly, remember. And pure, unadulterated, divine, unquestionable, worshipped-at-all-costs free market capitalism tells us that this is the only way to go. No interference, nothing to impede the march toward that Utopian ideal (for me, of course, and no one else).

490 posted on 04/12/2004 1:18:25 PM PDT by Gekko The Great (A cruel, heartless monster of a capitalist. The only way to be.)
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