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To: Sam the Sham
"What Marx did not anticipate was the social welfare state.

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After the collapse of communism, MNC's frankly don't think they need nation states anymore. Wars in any case are back to being fought by small, professional armies instead of masses of conscript riflemen. So they can act like the "suck it up, loser" capitalism of Marx's time and freely "immiserate the masses"."

So Marx was right back then, save for the welfare state, and he is right again today in your opinion?!

Oh man, the CPUSA can't wait to hear from you!

But don't be surprised. Most of what passes for so called "conservatives" who want to ban offshore outsourcing are simply Marxist platitudes rehashed with modern buzzwords.

That Marx has been disproven by Adam Smith (Wealth of Nations) and the last two straight centuries of capitalistic prosperity is apparently lost on such people.

Capitalism, however, will sort out offshore outsourcing if the government stays out of it.

For one thing, trial lawyers are going to eat CEO's alive over the outsourcing of data to third world cultures that simply can *not* implement the levels of data security that we can implement here.

For another, the Dollar will continue to fall in its foreign exchange value until such time as outsourcing makes far less economic sense than today.

150 posted on 04/09/2004 7:05:56 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack; Havoc; clamper1797
So Marx was right back then, save for the welfare state, and he is right again today in your opinion?!

He correctly realized that raw capitalism of your variety is destructive and indeed self destructive because it triggers the "populism" response of ordinary people protecting themselves, their families, their communities, and their country.

But don't be surprised. Most of what passes for so called "conservatives" who want to ban offshore outsourcing are simply Marxist platitudes rehashed with modern buzzwords.

In your eagerness to expend the lives of others to your ideological vision of a pure free trade world you talk like a Communist. True conservatives recognize that there is a higher value that pure greed. They have no wish to be "citizens of the world". They understand that in a world that conserves, the free market serves humans, not the other way around. True conservatives recognize the sacred worth of human beings and do not treat them with your Stalinist level of ruthlessness. That is why the Christian Coalition did not support NAFTA and religious conservatives are by and large strongly anti-oursourcing. Read Phyllis Schalfly among others.

Capitalism, however, will sort out offshore outsourcing if the government stays out of it.

Grownups do not take it for granted that stories always have happy endings. What if "sorting out offshore outsourcing" means the total technological transfer of American technology to China ? You may be willing to abdicate control of our geopolitical destiny to line your pocket. I am not.

170 posted on 04/09/2004 8:52:05 PM PDT by Sam the Sham
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