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To: sefarkas; joan; DTA; vooch; Wraith; Doctor13; MadelineZapeezda; FormerLib; kosta50; greenwolf
>>>>>You have been listening to Savage too long.<<<<

Farkas, nem értem hate speech, can you translate this into English?

I am so sorry Hungary was American ENEMY in both World Wars and staunch supporter of Soviet Union during Cold WAR. And LOST ALL 3. Hungarians were also Serb ENEMIES in both World Wars and during Cold War. It was Hungarians who commited ATROCITIES against Serbs in both World Wars, not vice versa.

Serbs stole part of Hungary? What part if I may ask? Please take your historical revisionism elsewhere. Nazi sites are good choice.

Hungarians were FASCISTS, NAZIS AND STAUNCH COMMUNISTS during good part of XX century. Your accusation of Serbs of being Commies is a perfect example of PROJECTION.

Here is something to refresh your memory who the Hungarians are:

"The Family" is a monument to victims of The Raid, madeof bronze, 4m in height, on gentry made of brick. The monument is piece of Novi Sad sculptor Jovan Soldatovic. It was placed in 1971. on Kej Zrtava Racije (Raid Victims Quay) in the living memory of The Raid made by hungarian ocupational forces on 21, 22. and 23. of january in 1942., when more than 1,300 Serbs, Jews and Gypsies were killed and thrown uder the ice of the Danube River. In 1992. 4 plates in serbian and hebrew, which give basic information about the event, were placed on the monument along with 60 plates with the names of the killed.

I also understand you can not bear the fact that Serbs won the first allied victory in WWI:

BATTLE OF CER (1914) When the First World War started the Austro-Hungarian army under the command of General Pochorek pushed into Serbia across the Sava and the Drina. Sabac fell. The Serb Second Army under the command of General Stepa Stepanovic advanced towards Cer, the Sumadija Division towards Sabac and the Cavalry Division towards Macva. On the left flank the Third Army under the command of General Sturm entered the battle. During August 1914 a great battle was waged in the area of Cer, in which around 200,000 men with a great number of artillery pieces of ordnance took part on the Austro-Hungarian side, and around 180,000 men on the Serb side. The main battle at Cer lasted from August 16 to 19. On Transfiguration the Serb army won a great victory, pushed the enemy army back across the Drina and completely thwarted the Austro-Hungarian war plan. Around 25,000 Austro-Hungarian officers and soldiers were killed and wounded, and around 4500 were captured. The Serb army lost around 16,000. The aggressor withdrew from Sandzak as well. It was the first Allied victory in the First World War, because of which the reputation of Serbia improved considerably.

BATTLE OF THE KOLUBARA (1914)

After the battle of the Drina in September 1914, the Serb army was forced by the advancing Austro-Hungarian army to retreat towards the river Kolubara and Ljig. In the occupied areas the enemy army committed unprecedented atrocities against civilians, and in mid-November the Serb army had to retreat even further and stopped on the frontline 130 kilometres long: Mt. Varovnica-Kosmaj-Vagan-Takovo-Kablar-Ovcar-Mt. Jelica. There were around 160,000 Austro-Hungarian soldiers and around 120,000 Serb soldiers. Completely unexpectedly for the enemy, the Serb forces mounted an attack on December 3. By exerting persistent pressure, the Serb First Army, under the command of General Zivojin Misic, broke the enemy front; the Second Army exerted the frontal pressure on the enemy, while the Belgrade defence troops withstood the attack and stabilised the situation by a counterattack on December 6. In the night between December 6 and 7, the Austro-Hungarian army retreated across the Kolubara and by December 15, it was forced to withdraw from Serbia completely. In the Battle of the Kolubara more than 43,000 Austro-Hungarian soldiers and officers, as well as large quantities of war material, were captured.

Cer and Drina are taught in many Military academies around the globe as an example how determined force can destroy superior invader.

138 posted on 04/10/2004 11:46:16 PM PDT by DTA (you ain't seen nothing yet)
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To: sefarkas
Farkas,

Don't waste your time on FR, this is better place for your historiographical and ethnological analysis

139 posted on 04/10/2004 11:57:12 PM PDT by DTA (you ain't seen nothing yet)
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To: DTA
I'm satisfied that you sympathize with the Russian Communists who were the only allies of the Serbs during the Bosian and Kosovo events in recent years. When the former party members and KGB agents are removed from the Russian government (as were the Nazi party members after 1945), then you can tell me about all of the atrocities. Your Russian brethern wiped out nearly the entire middle class under Stalin and relocated the rest. The atrocities you mention pale in comparison to those of the Russians and their Communist allies in Serbia, China, and Cambodia. Too bad there are no monuments to the poor S.O.Bs slaughtered by the godless Communists.

Read this in the Encyclopidia Britannica about what the Serbs stole from Hungary in 1918.

Novi Sad is Hungarian Úvidék; City (pop., 1991: 180,000), Serbia, northern Yugoslavia.

The administrative capital of the autonomous region of Vojvodina, it is a transit port on the Danube River, northwest of Belgrade. Founded in the 17th century, it was part of Hungary until the formation of Yugoslavia in 1918. The city is an ethnically diverse agricultural center; its economy suffered badly during the 1990s Balkan upheavals.
143 posted on 04/14/2004 12:38:20 AM PDT by sefarkas (why vote Democrate-lite???)
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