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Police Report: Twin Cities Detective May Question Kerry Campaign over Missing Vietnam FBI Files
Newmax.com ^ | April 9, 2004 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 04/09/2004 7:23:06 AM PDT by threat matrix

Detective Patrick Eddinger of the Twin Cities Police Department told CNS News.com that (author) Gerald Nicosia's refusal to have the crime scene processed was 'not normal.'

'It's not usually normal. Normally, we come in and we actually process the scene to see if we can find any fingerprints or anything else, Eddinger explained.

'There was no force to anything in the residence, what we could find, in order to gain entry.

Eddinger said he had no suspects at the moment, 'It's an ongoing investigation. I am stil trying to gather information,' he said.

The Twin Cities Police Department might seek some of that information from Kerry's campaign.

'There is a couple of other people I need to talk to, including possibly the Kerry campaign,' Eddinger said.

According to the police report, Nicosia alleged that the crime occurred on Tuesday, March 25 while the house was empty from 2:30 PM until 5:30PM.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: fbi; fbifiles; kerry; nicosia; theft
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And it turns out that a Kerry messenger had been to the Nicosia home recently! (when he retracted his statement about the 1971 KC assassination meeting after the NY Sun article)
1 posted on 04/09/2004 7:23:06 AM PDT by threat matrix
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2 posted on 04/09/2004 7:25:05 AM PDT by threat matrix
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To: threat matrix
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3 posted on 04/09/2004 7:25:08 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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4 posted on 04/09/2004 7:25:45 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Hi Mom! Hi Dad!)
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To: AmericanMade1776
ping!
5 posted on 04/09/2004 7:27:42 AM PDT by threat matrix
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To: threat matrix
I find it funny that these people are so stuck in the 60s and 70s, they are trying to stage a Daniel Ellsburg moment.


Wink! Wink! "Someone stole only the incriminatory files out of the 20 boxes of files that I had." ...Nicosia: KERRY BIOGRAPHER

6 posted on 04/09/2004 7:28:05 AM PDT by maica (World Peace starts with W)
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To: threat matrix
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KERRY's missiing FBI Files =

VIETNAM's missing Pentagon Papers


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7 posted on 04/09/2004 7:28:33 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: threat matrix
This guy has made a phony theft report. He wanted some publicity and it's backfiring. If so, I certainly hope the police get him for filing a false report.
8 posted on 04/09/2004 7:31:23 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: maica
We know that the Kerry campaign knew where the documents were..I hope this Twin Cities detective can get the job done!
9 posted on 04/09/2004 7:33:30 AM PDT by threat matrix
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To: threat matrix
Detective Patrick Eddinger of the Twin Cities Police Department told CNS News.com that (author) Gerald Nicosia's refusal to have the crime scene processed was 'not normal.'

Gee, you would think this Democrat author would want those "GOP operatives" who he claims stole his files arrested....?

10 posted on 04/09/2004 7:34:15 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Clara Lou
Nicosia deserves to go down as well, if he was a willing/unwilling accomplice in this..
11 posted on 04/09/2004 7:34:37 AM PDT by threat matrix
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To: maica
Daniel Ellsburg? Not familiar, but am curious.

I am intrigued by how extreme Liberals are always staging crimes against themselves, to prove their world view. Kind of like the racism zealots who always end up the victim of self-imposed "hate crimes."

It fascinates me that these people, when confronted with reality about their worldview, choose to fake it, rather than adjust. This is the proof that most extreme Libs have a different private agenda than the one publicly displaysed. i.e. the anti-rascism people aren't really concerned about racism - otherwise they would simply be happy that no "hate-crime" has actually been perpetrated agains them.

12 posted on 04/09/2004 7:35:22 AM PDT by bluefish
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To: Lancey Howard
Yes, especially after Kerry's messenger left Nicosia's house! (probably to scope the joint)
13 posted on 04/09/2004 7:35:54 AM PDT by threat matrix
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To: CyberAnt; South40; cartoonistx; Captain Peter Blood; kitkat; Qwinn; bayourod; jerry639; ...
That "author" is a fraud - - surprise, surprise.
Check this out!
14 posted on 04/09/2004 7:47:39 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
That "author" is a fraud - - surprise, surprise.

I'm not surprised. It was a set up by the kerry's or maybe they stole the files so the word wouldn't get out. Either way, the GOP did not steal those files. They've have absolutely nothing to gain.
15 posted on 04/09/2004 7:51:47 AM PDT by Lucky2 ( 2004 is the year the Yankees win the World Series!)
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To: maica
I find it funny that these people are so stuck in the 60s and 70s

That they are .. just listen to the speeches of the Top Dems

16 posted on 04/09/2004 8:00:23 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
"KERRY's missiing FBI Files = VIETNAM's missing Pentagon Papers"

Yup.

ALOHA RONNIE =s?

...*clarity*. ;^)

17 posted on 04/09/2004 8:03:14 AM PDT by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: threat matrix
What doesn't he just file another FOI with the Fbi ad replace the files? For that matter why hasn't any other journelist done so and spread them all over the media?
18 posted on 04/09/2004 8:09:20 AM PDT by fella
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To: bluefish
Daniel Ellsburg? Not familiar, but am curious.

There's a book titled 'Watergate Amendment' by John Fitzgerald at Amazon.com. It's a good read covering the key players of Watergate including Dr. Ellsburg.
19 posted on 04/09/2004 8:17:02 AM PDT by bondsman
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To: bluefish
I am sure that there is more her than you asked for, but if I try to edit or highlight, the 'embedded' html will be lost. It was the break-in of Ellsberg's psychiatrist's office that was used by Nixon's enemies to turn the public against him.


http://www.barnard.columbia.edu/history/faculty/carnes/3467(3067)%20America%20Since%201945/3067%20America%20Since%201945/lecture_outlines/lecture20.html

DANIEL ELLSBERG, graduate of Harvard who received Ph.D. on esoteric aspects of game theory as applied to defense. Served in army before accepting defense analyst post in Kennedy administration. Prepared first "counterforce" targeting scheme, mistakenly believing it was essentially defensive; leaked to media, Pentagon Papers, top secret DoD study indicating presidential deceptions to public over Vietnam. This leak prompts Nixon to form "Plumbers" unit, and to authorize burglary of Ellsberg's psychiatrist in order to discredit Elsberg by releasing damaging information on him.


Outline for Lecture #20, November 15
Watergate
Chronology

1971         New York Times publishes Pentagon Papers; Nixon establishes "Plumbers" unit to stop leaks

1972         Police arrest 5 men for breaking into Democratic headquarters in Watergate offices (Washington); John Mitchell,                    Attorney General, resigns as head of Committee to Re-Elect the President (CREEP); McGovern wins Democratic                    nomination

                 Nixon wins election, 521 electoral votes to 17

1973         Senate committee (headed by Sen. Samuel Ervin) holds televised hearings on Watergate affair; Former White                    House counsel John Dean admits taking part in cover-up of burglary; fingers Nixon and Chief White House                    advisers: John D. Ehrlichman and H. R. (Bob) Haldemann; Haldemann and Ehrlichman resign

                 Watergate grand jury indicts Mitchell for perjury and obstruction of justice

                 Archibald Cox, Special Prosecutor to investigate the affair, sues Nixon to obtain taped Presidential conversations

                 October: "Saturday Night Massacre: Nixon fires Cox; Attorney General Elliot Richardson resigns in protest

                 Sirica imposes harsh sentences on 7 Watergate break-in defendants; insists investigation continue

                 House Judiciary Committee investigates possible impeachment of Nixon, who releases some taped conversations to                    Sirica; there are "gaps" in some conversations Vice President Agnew resigns, pleading "no contest" to tax evasion                    charges; Ford becomes VP

1974         House Judiciary Committee holds televised impeachment hearings: Nixon formally charged with: taking part in                    conspiracy to obstruct justice; abuses of Presidential power; defiance of congressional subpoenas

                 House Committee recommends three articles of impeachment

                 (August) Nixon resigns; Gerald Ford becomes President

                 President Ford issues unconditional pardon to Nixon for all crimes he may have committed

1975         Mitchell, Ehrlichman, and Haldeman found guilty of perjury, conspiracy, obstruction of justice in Watergate                     cover-up




http://www.pbs.org/newshour/gergen/june97/garment_6-19.html






CRAZY RYTHM [sic]


JUNE 19, 1997

TRANSCRIPT




Former Nixon White House counsel Leonard Garment discusses his book "Crazy Rythm: My Journey from Brooklyn, Jazz, and Wall Street to Nixon's White House, Watergate, and Beyond."



JIM LEHRER: Finally tonight, a Gergen dialogue. David Gergen, editor at large of U.S. News & World Report, engages Leonard Garment, former Nixon White House counsel, author of "Crazy Rhythm: My Journey from Brooklyn, Jazz, and Wall Street to Nixon’s White House, Watergate, and Beyond."

DAVID GERGEN: In preparing this book of memoirs, Len, you went back and took a hard look at events 25 years ago, and the great mysteries of the Nixon presidency, and found a direct connection between decisions he made early on about Vietnam and Watergate. Tell us about all of that.

LEONARD GARMENT, Author, "Crazy Rhythm": Well, the first decision that President Nixon and Henry Kissinger had to make when Nixon became President, the first major decision, was what to do about Vietnam. Nixon and Kissinger decided--felt that they had no alternative but to withdraw slowly from Vietnam.

DAVID GERGEN: As opposed to a quick withdrawal.

LEONARD GARMENT: They couldn’t just pull out--that was their view--because it would have pulled the cork out of a bottle--that was one of Nixon’s favorite statements--evocative of the situation; that our allies in Asia, that the Chinese with whom secret negotiations were planned--the Russians with whom detente was being formulated--would all say this--this is a paper country run by a paper president. Nixon and Kissinger really had to bite their lips and do it gradually. The strategic withdrawal was bombarded domestically, was bombarded by people who thought the war was wrong; that we should end our engagement. It was bombarded by very anxious students who were afraid that they’d be drafted and be sent to Vietnam. It was bombarded by the press, many who had been in Vietnam and hated what they saw there.

Nixon and Kissinger had to hold on through Kent State, through Jackson State, through the mobilization against the war. And by 1970, they pretty much had that under control. The summer of 1970, after the invasion of Cambodia, miraculously the country suddenly turned quiet. It had vented the spleen against Nixon. I think they were convinced that we were getting out. The draft was ended or was in the process of being ended. Student troops that were sniping at this great withdrawal were no longer anxious about their being involved, and then Elsberg came along in 1971, spring of 1971. DAVID GERGEN: I should say parenthetically, by the way, for the interest of full disclosure, that I also joined the Nixon administration and was working with you during this time, so I--

LEONARD GARMENT: And you look familiar. (laughing)

DAVID GERGEN: So tell us about Daniel Elsberg then.

LEONARD GARMENT: David, one of my favorites. So you’ll go easy on me for the balance of this interview. Elsberg--huge dump of papers in the spring of 1971.

DAVID GERGEN: The Pentagon Papers.

LEONARD GARMENT: Pentagon Papers. Secret, top secret, classified, super eyes only, what have you--and it involved the revelations with respect to Kennedy and Johnson administrations, not Nixon. But Henry Kissinger and Richard Nixon felt--and with--with pretty good reason--that this would have a very negative effect; that they couldn’t keep secrets; and I think while Nixon wanted to protect the withdrawal from Vietnam, he was in a real rage at Elsberg and at the New York Times and at the Washington Post for disclosing the secret material--went to court, lost in the Supreme Court--then, as a result of that, he asked that the White House staff create a unit that would--that would plug leaks of this sort, and that was the birth of the plumbers.

And the plumbers included Gordon Liddy, the genius of bravery we saw later on, if not discretion, and Howard Hunt, whose whole life was in a sense fictional in that he wrote forty or fifty spy novels and he lived that kind of life, and they with the Cubans went off on various missions to carry out the President’s will under the general direction of Field Marshal Colson. That included political intelligence activities and then of course it led straight to the break-in at Watergate.

DAVID GERGEN: So you have a plumbers unit that was set up essentially for national security purposes, originally, which took on--took on political coloration--

LEONARD GARMENT: Because it--the timing merged with the--with the 1972 election planning. And in ‘71, the fall of ‘71, Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger, who were working out their--their vast triple play involving the Soviet Union and China and North Vietnam, one played against the other--were not paying that much attention to politics and suddenly the polls showed that Richard Nixon was in a dead heat with Muskie, so that led to the instructions to get out every piece of political intelligence, to find out what they could about the Democrats, to find out what they could, and do things to Muskie and then Nixon went off to carry out his foreign policy activities, certainly with at least the constructive if not the actual knowledge in general terms of what Colson and his plumbers were doing.

DAVID GERGEN: And that’s what got him into Watergate.

LEONARD GARMENT: And that’s what got him into Watergate.

DAVID GERGEN: They went in--

LEONARD GARMENT: And they never got out of Watergate.

DAVID GERGEN: But they went in in Watergate what, in May?

LEONARD GARMENT: They went in three times in May--on one weekend--finally we’re distant enough from the events that we can--there are a few things about it that are--that are fairly humorous. The plumbers or the burglars went into Watergate--they went in--they actually went in, they came out, they went in. There were three entries, I believe, on this--during this weekend, where they planted the bug in Democratic headquarters. And why did they go that many times? Well, when they first went in, one of the--one of the plumbers--I think it was Bernard Baker--had forgotten a crucial tool that was needed to open the door. So they said, Bernie, where’s that tool, and he said, well, I left it home, and they said, where is home, and he said, it’s in Miami. They said get on the airplane and go back. So he flew down and he picked up the tool and came back, they did it again; they had some other problems; and finally they planted the bug and, as we know, in the next two weeks they had a problem with its--its operational capacity, and that led to the June 17th adventure which I think the Democrats were fully primed for by then.

DAVID GERGEN: Your general view then is a decision early on about Vietnam, instead of getting out quickly, which they didn’t want to do for foreign policy reasons, to get out slowly, may have worked on the foreign policy terms but it invited this domestic uproar.

LEONARD GARMENT: Right. Nixon--

DAVID GERGEN: And then led to Watergate.

LEONARD GARMENT: In the mixture of intellectual anxiety about his whole withdrawal plan and personal emotional rage that the fellow, Daniel Elsberg, would invoke his power as an individual to just--to break the law--in Nixon’s view--and that led to the plumbers--that led straight line--so this is the spine that really connects the presidency from beginning to end, another casualty of Vietnam that has bee said, and the spine was broken in the end by Nixon’s impeachment and resignation.

DAVID GERGEN: Well, Leonard Garment, thank you very much.

LEONARD GARMENT: Thank you.

20 posted on 04/09/2004 8:21:19 AM PDT by maica (World Peace starts with W)
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