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To: jpsb
The traditional "Happy Birthday" song is copyrighted.

I understand that Donald Trump is trademarking "Your Fired".
37 posted on 04/08/2004 9:35:55 PM PDT by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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To: Lokibob
It is just ridiculous that a song played on public airways for years and years can be copy righted by a bunch of lawyers that they can then shake town business that play music.

This Copy right stuff is out of control.

Newspapers want hits on their web site so that they can sell advertising, perfectly understandable. One way (ugly) around this problem would be to place at random, an ad from a list of news paper advertisers as the first reply. I think most paper would go for something like that. It would help them and would not be a terrible thing for FR. Someone might suggest this to Jim.

52 posted on 04/08/2004 9:45:00 PM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: Lokibob
The traditional "Happy Birthday" song is copyrighted.

The melody, with the possible exception of the dotted-eighth/sixteenth rhythm at the start of each line, is in the public domain as it was published prior to 1922 with the lyrics

Good morning to you
Good morning to you
Good morning dear ____ [or dead Children]
Good morning to all
I am unaware of any copy of the Happy Birthday lyrics having been published prior to 1922, though I've read that at least one pre-1922 publication of the work noted that the song was also titled "Happy Birthday to You" but did not explicitly write out the lyrics. It would seem likely that might be sufficient evidence to disqualify the claimed copyright on the lyrics, but a cartoon in 1935 (Ub Iwerks' Mary's Little Lamb) uses the tune (without lyrics) in such a way as to suggest it was primarily known with the "Good Morning to All" lyrics.

That having been said, I'd like to see a restaurant use something like:

Your birthday's today.
What more can we say?
The tune's out of copyright
ASCAP go away.
BTW, that latter point reminds me--I have on occasion heard restaurant staff singing made-up birthday-song replacements to tunes which, while their origins may not be well known, are more recent than "Good Morning to All" and are, in fact, still under copyright.
102 posted on 04/08/2004 10:11:33 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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