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Al Jazeera: US: Fierce Falluja fighting recalls Vietnam
Al Jazeera ^ | Thursday 08 April 2004, 22:57 Makka Time, 19:57 GMT

Posted on 04/08/2004 2:55:53 PM PDT by konijn

US: Fierce Falluja fighting recalls Vietnam

Thursday 08 April 2004, 22:57 Makka Time, 19:57 GMT

Occupation forces are only advancing slowly in Falluja

Ten Iraqi resistance fighters and two occupation soldiers were reported killed on Thursday as US marines met ferocious resistance in the besieged western Iraqi town of Falluja several days into their offensive.

The tough fight put up by insurgents in Falluja, west of Baghdad, prompted the marine commander to make comparisons with the Vietnam War.

As the day drew to a close, sniper fire and mortars were being fired around the main marine compound in the industrial area on the eastern edge of town, where rocket fire and mortars fell short all day.

"Marines southwest of Falluja were attacked by an unknown number of enemy forces in buildings using machine guns, small arms, hand grenades and RPGs (rocket-propelled grenades)," said a military statement.

"The marines called in reinforcements and attacked the enemy positions, destroying a truck with a mounted machine gun and the building that the attackers were firing from. Ten enemy combatants were confirmed killed."

The statement also said about 30 insurgents had been killed in the Al-Anbar province, home to Fallujah, but mostly in clashes in other marine operations in nearby Ramadi. Neither claim could be verified.

Advance slowed

Throughout the day US occupation forces inched forward block-by-block taking sniper fire and hit-and-run attacks with mortars and RPGs. A US medic said the resistance was more intense than in last spring's invasion.

Mortars and small-arms fire were launched by small groups of insurgents who appeared in alleyways or on rooftops, only to melt away.

The thud of mortar rounds echoed around the town and plumes of smoke dotted the landscape. Machine-gun fire rattled through the streets as F-16 warplanes buzzed overhead.

After more than three days of ferocious fighting, the marines had managed to move just two kilometres (a little over a mile) through the industrial zone, which they had thought was largely abandoned.

They stopped their advance in the afternoon to wait for reinforcements from another battalion.

Urban warfare US marines give first aid to a wounded comrade near Falluja

The flames of exploding rockets lit the sky as the marines came under repeated mortar and RPG fire from factories, homes and mosques.

"MOUT (Military Operations in Urban Terrain) is the most intense kind of fighting," said Lieutenant Colonel Brennan Byrne, a battalion commander.

"And this is like Hue City in Vietnam," he said, referring to the former imperial capital where in 1968 US troops faced the most ferocious street fighting of the communists' decisive Tet offensive.

Marines, who took part in defeating Saddam's armed forces a year ago, said the resistance they were now facing was tougher than anything thrown at them by the old regime's once vaunted Republican Guards.

Sergeant James Ramsel, of the battalion's Alpha Company, said there had been no let-up in the resistance. "It's been going on all night; it's still going on."

Hospital sources cited by Al-Jazeera said a total of 105 Iraqis had been killed in Falluja since Tuesday evening.

The ferocity of the fighting stopped some corpses from being cleared from the streets.

Flies buzzed over the body of a middle-aged man with a mustache, shot in the neck by marines after he fired a RPG at them across the industrial wasteland of garages, factories and metal shops.

US forces pinned down

Insurgents celebrate in front of a burning US convoy near Falluja

Captain Chris Chown, a marine battalion air officer, conceded that the insurgents were proving not only determined but also adept at using guerrilla attacks to counter the US advantage in equipment and numbers.

"One guy can basically hold down a whole squad. He shoots from one window and pops in another. They are fierce and very determined but they can't shoot straight. They are basically spraying and praying."

However, Chown expressed concern the outgunned Iraqis could still end up winning the battle of public opinion if the fighting continued.

"I hope one day we don't get so jaded we just roll down the streets in armoured vehicles shooting at whatever moves," she said.

"If that happens we need to take a step back and look at the humanity of the place or we've just lost our mission."

"We are at a crossroads in Falluja... You get to a critical juncture where one small event is going to tip things for us or against us."

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KEYWORDS: falluja; iraq; iraqwar; vigilantresolve
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1 posted on 04/08/2004 2:55:54 PM PDT by konijn
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Does that mean we get to start using napalm?
2 posted on 04/08/2004 2:57:08 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: Numbers Guy
So now Al J is towing the Democratic party line. Guess we know whose side they are on.
3 posted on 04/08/2004 2:58:37 PM PDT by admiralsn (All the good Tag Lines were taken.)
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4 posted on 04/08/2004 3:00:23 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (If Woody had gone straight to the police, this would never have happened!)
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To: Numbers Guy
"Does that mean we get to start using napalm?"

I think we should pull out and reduce the entire city to smoking rubble from the air.

--Boris

5 posted on 04/08/2004 3:00:24 PM PDT by boris (The deadliest weapon of mass destruction in history is a Leftist with a word processor)
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To: konijn
Thanks alot, Teddy.

Jagdork traitor.

6 posted on 04/08/2004 3:03:14 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: konijn
So how old was this sadr guy during the Vietnam war?
7 posted on 04/08/2004 3:03:30 PM PDT by snooker (Clinton's definition of terror ... Monica I told you not to use your teeth.)
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To: konijn
One guy can basically hold down a whole squad. He shoots from one window and pops in another. They are fierce and very determined but they can't shoot straight. They are basically spraying and praying."

Noise makers

8 posted on 04/08/2004 3:06:06 PM PDT by demlosers (Coulter: Liberals simply can't grasp the problem Lexis-Nexis poses to their incessant lying.)
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Sounds like the Sunnis and Shiites are teaming up now. Sunni and Shiite Iraqis join forces as they load food supplies on trucks before heading to Fallujah, Iraq (news - web sites), from the Um Al Qura mosque in west Baghdad Thursday April 8 2004. Truckloads of food supplies and medicine donated by Iraqis are being taken to Fallujah, where more than 280 Iraqis have been killed and 400 wounded this week in the U.S. Marines' siege of insurgents in this city west of Baghdad, the director of Fallujah's hospital said Thursday. (AP PHOTO/Samir Mizban)
Sunni and Shiite Iraqis join forces as they load food supplies on trucks before heading to Fallujah, Iraq, from the Um Al Qura mosque in west Baghdad Thursday April 8 2004. Truckloads of food supplies and medicine donated by Iraqis are being taken to Fallujah, where more than 280 Iraqis have been killed and 400 wounded this week in the U.S. Marines' siege of insurgents in this city west of Baghdad, the director of Fallujah's hospital said Thursday. (AP PHOTO/Samir Mizban)
9 posted on 04/08/2004 3:08:16 PM PDT by optik_b (follow the money)
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To: konijn
50,000 dead VC and NVA.

If only Fallujah was like Tet as far as their casualties are concerned.

10 posted on 04/08/2004 3:09:03 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: boris
If we flattened Fallujah, in truth there are probably more hostiles there than innocents, but that's not how the world would see it. It would be an al Jazeera photo bazaar of dead children, women etc even if they had to look really hard to find one. It would be a PR nightmare.

So that leaves the ugly and dangerous urban fighting that is going on right now. Lots of Marines are going to die, and a hundredfold more bad guys, and a few civilians who were in the wrong place. It's really a shame that whether we win convincingly and quickly or not, the spin over much of the world will be violently anti-American. But that is hardly news, eh? I certainly won't lose any sleep if we just drop the big one on Fallujah and say that's that. Good riddance and a good example for the rest.

11 posted on 04/08/2004 3:10:04 PM PDT by Sender (Support Free Republic...become a monthly donor!)
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To: konijn
These people have no idea what Vietnam was like. We should show them.
12 posted on 04/08/2004 3:10:32 PM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: konijn
Unfortunately for the enemy, they're trying to defend a flat, empty desert, not a thick, forbidding jungle.
13 posted on 04/08/2004 3:11:13 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Voting Bush for lack of reasonable alternatives)
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To: konijn
Well, even al-Jazeera and al-Sadr get the dems' talkingpointsmemo. "VietNam! VietNam! Quagmire Quagmire!"

14 posted on 04/08/2004 3:12:43 PM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: konijn
The Swimmers talking points fax list sure is interesting.

15 posted on 04/08/2004 3:13:31 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: TomGuy
Maybe Teddy is just mad that his family didn't get to start this one...
16 posted on 04/08/2004 3:14:18 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: konijn
Looks like Teddy and Kerry's words are being used against us......none dare call it treason????
17 posted on 04/08/2004 3:47:21 PM PDT by illiac
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To: thoughtomator
We've been extremely merciful so far. There are not miles upon miles of jungle and tunnels to hide in. Knock down their buildings and point a line of tanks at them and this would be over. Somebody had better decide that we should fight to win, take whatever steps are necessary and crush them. Alexander the Great didn't conquer the world by being politically correct. If our future is at stake, let's prove we mean it.
18 posted on 04/08/2004 4:52:16 PM PDT by man of Yosemite ("When a man decides to do something everyday, that's about when he stops doing it.")
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To: konijn
Thank you Teddy and Kerry. Every drop of blood is on your hands. I would be banned for what I'm thinking of you and your ilk but rest assured I and many others will remember your acts of treason come election time.

For all the doom and gloom and body counts, AJ repeated several times we were advancing and that's what matters. This is for all the marbles.
19 posted on 04/08/2004 4:59:39 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: konijn
I read this article ( US forces pinned down ) , which leads me to think, "the USA is getting their a$$kicked." But for some reason (al Jazeera), I understand it exactly the opposite. Go figure?

5.56mm

20 posted on 04/08/2004 5:01:21 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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