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Thou shalt not flub thy photo op, Sen. Kerry (Caught taking "communion" in Protestant Church)
Boston Herald ^
| Wednesday, April 7, 2004
| David R. Guarino
Posted on 04/08/2004 11:24:10 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
"And before you start asking me about birth control or other issues, you need to understand that Transubstantiation is a central premise to Catholicism."
Welcoming all who wish to worship is a central premise of Christianity.
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posted on
04/08/2004 1:25:56 PM PDT
by
lugsoul
(Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
To: aruanan
I'm not sure anyone can adequately exlpain the difference between con and transsubstantiation, AME doesn't believe in either one, however.
To: lugsoul
Welcoming all who wish to worship is a central premise to Christianity.
Is there a particular passage in Scripture that you rely upon for this assertion?
To: lugsoul
Welcoming all who wish to worship is a central premise of Christianity. As I said before, it is not my intention to engage in a thological discussion on the merits of Transubstantiation, just that one can not call himself a Catholic and think that is is ok to be receiving communion in a Protestant Chuch. Holy Communion is a very big part of Catholic worship. Possibly the biggest part. Why is this such a difficult concept for you to grasp?
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posted on
04/08/2004 1:35:11 PM PDT
by
presidio9
(Islam is as Islam does)
To: lugsoul
"Apostolic succession preserves the supernatural composition of RC sacraments." And you have the stones to call someone else's comment "silly"?
Sounds like you could use a little historical instruction on your own church. Or is this somewhat imprecise "succession" one of those issues where the RCC performs contortions to work around difficult questions.
My point is simple - apparently too simple for the dogma-bound RCC. According to certain tenets of the Church, a believer in Christ who attends a church on the Sabbath and wants to open his/her heart and worship Christ according to the sacrament taught by Jesus is committing a "serious sin" by doing so - IF the Church happens to be one not designated as the "right" Church by a worldly authority.
Of course, this is the same Church that sold salvation in the form of trinkets passed off as sacred relics, but I guess it is still "inerrant", huh? Of course, if all those really WERE pieces of the true cross, the Cross must've been about 1500 ft. tall.
Sigh... DING DING DING! Gather round folks. Got your popcorn?
Okay. First. There's nothing sillier than a Protestant pontificating (pun intended) about Catholocism. Jack Chick may be the finest comedian these shores have produced, but you're a close second.
Secondly, if us back-werds Cat'licks are so off the reservation, how come that there Holy Spirit can't keep His story straight among those 20,000 or so Protestant versions of Christianity?
Thirdly (here we go YET AGAIN -- this punchline is getting old), infallibility lies in matter of papal opinion on morals and faith, not disciplines. Selling a trinket is not dogma.
Fourthly, being bound by the dogma of a Church handed down from St. Peter onward (go ahead and challenge it) seems a lot better than being bound to the "revelations" of someone who gets on TV with a wig and a microphone.
To: Mr. Lucky
Mark 9:39-41 - Jesus corrects the disciples complaining about a man who was ministering, casting out demons, in Jesus' name - but was not a part of the apostolic band.
39 "Do not stop him," Jesus said. "No one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, 40 for whoever is not against us is for us. 41 I tell you the truth, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to Christ will certainly not lose his reward.
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posted on
04/08/2004 1:39:50 PM PDT
by
PresbyRev
(Christ is Lord and King over all spheres of human life.)
To: Integrityrocks
"If he had a brain"
This brought to mind immediatly an image of the straw man from the wizard of oz "if I only had a brain"
add kerrys face and it would be perfect:)
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posted on
04/08/2004 1:41:05 PM PDT
by
OMalley
To: NYer
Kerry spokesman Michael Meehan said Kerry was merely participating in an ``ecumenical'' Christian service. ``He came at the invitation of the pastor, who invited all Christians to celebrate,'' Meehan said. ``Sen. Kerry is a Christian. He celebrated.''Kerry's spokesman Mr. Meehan conveniently neglected to tell the press that a catholic is under the pain of mortal sin to attend Sunday Mass save genuinely valid reasons such as serious illness.
Under the circumstances, Kerry had indeed committed a Mortal Sin knowingly.
Let's also remind Kerry and Mr. Meehan that under Catholic rules, one must go and receive Holy Communion at least once during the Easter Season and, those guilty of Mortal Sins must first go to Confession (with firm amendment).
There is no way out for Kerry except repentence and turn away from killing babies.
He can run but he can't hide.
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posted on
04/08/2004 1:43:07 PM PDT
by
m4629
To: All
Off on some hospital visits - y'all have a great Maundy Thursday! Blessings to all - Catholics and Protestants alike as we remember Christ's life, passion and crucifixion.
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posted on
04/08/2004 1:43:33 PM PDT
by
PresbyRev
(Christ is Lord and King over all spheres of human life.)
To: lugsoul
Please stay on topic. This thread is about Kerry's hypocritical failure to obey the rules of his religion, which he claims devout reverence for, not your own personal religious philosophies.
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posted on
04/08/2004 1:44:47 PM PDT
by
presidio9
(Islam is as Islam does)
To: Mr. Lucky
No. Not one.
Is there any particular passage that supports transsubstantiation?
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posted on
04/08/2004 1:45:16 PM PDT
by
lugsoul
(Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
To: PresbyRev
And that, you think, compels the Catholic Church (and any other Church practicing closed communion) to abandon the instructions of St. Paul?
To: Mr. Lucky
Worrying about the "worthiness" of sinners to come to the Lord's table is the occupation of busybodies, not God's own saints.
To: meatloaf
Did he take his Yamika off while taking Communion?? After all, Passover was the next day.
Pray for W and The Truth
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posted on
04/08/2004 1:52:36 PM PDT
by
bray
(Hey Yaaaawn, why don't YOU give $750,000,000 to the gummit!)
To: lugsoul
Well, presidio, I'm guessing that what he or anyone else chooses to profess as their religion - or what one is required to believe in order to make that profession - is not up to you. That's MY point, bub. It is definitely not up to me. It's not up to John Kerry either. He is currently practicing his own religion, and it is not Catholicism.
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posted on
04/08/2004 1:52:56 PM PDT
by
presidio9
(Islam is as Islam does)
To: PresbyRev
Happy Easter Reverend.
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posted on
04/08/2004 1:56:04 PM PDT
by
presidio9
(Islam is as Islam does)
To: AppyPappy
A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup. I assume you do understand the words ... himself? God does not leave it to me to judge.
To: lugsoul
Sure. Matthew 26:26-28 or Mark 14:22-24 are two. I Corinthians 12:29 is another.
To: presidio9
I am not Catholic, so can someone please explain to me this concept of degrees of sin?
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posted on
04/08/2004 2:06:07 PM PDT
by
ryanjb2
To: PresbyRev; old-ager
Calling the celebration of the Eucharist in a Protestant Church a 'mockery of communion' is offensive. Akin to a Protestant labeling the Celebration of the Mass idolatry and the veneration of a Jesus cookie. I concur. There is no need to be offensive to Protestants here. We can believe their communion to be symbolic and not like ours, but we don't have to say it's a mockery.
Kerry, on the other hand, we can say he was mocking his own alleged faith.
SD
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