Growing GOP Dissent on Iraq

cbsnews.com ^ | April 7, 2004 | David Paul Kuhn

[snooker]

Shouldn't we just have an hourly quagmire post?

[an amused spectator]

"If we have two or three more weeks of this you are going to start to see Republican members of Congress who have never been critical of President Bush and the Iraq policy starting to get that way," said Charles Cook, editor of the nonpartisan Cook Political Report.

LOL! I Googled up the "Cook Political Report", and noticed that some gay political blog referred to the "Cook Political Report" as "well-regarded". Of course, the blog appeared to be using some quote by Charles Cook to bash Republicans over the head over their non-inclusiveness. ;-)

[DugwayDuke]

Yes it is a "fantasy" land but there are a lot of folks that seem to be confused about all this. I fully expect the dems to start calling Bush a liar because our troops are still their after 30 June. Of course, they'll only state that Clinton's promise to pull our troops out of Bosnia in '96 was 'different'.

[grania]

Does he think we'll have a draft? That's the only way we'll have a measurable increase in troop counts. We don't have enough now in reserve to boost our total in a significant way.

My hypothesis is that you don't get an increase in enlistments when there is an increase in body bags coming home.

If people are going to die much beyond a normal death rate for healthy young people, there should be a draft. Then see how much support these adventures have.

My hunch is that no draft would have been necessary to find people to cover every square foot of Afghanistan if that's what it took to capture BinLaden, but that changes when the goal is to take over a country and change its religious values, culture, and economy.

[Maine For Bush]

I agree. This is what concerns me the most. Troops will continue to die after June 30th, and the sick dems will take full advantage of it.

[Publius6961]

Cut and run by any other name.
Either we must take an undertaking seriously or we should just give it up. Either we turn return the concept of treason tout d'suite and deal with it and we should stop the fiction that Islam is the religion of peace and deal with it decisively and quickly, or we should embrace isolationism totally.

We can't deal indefinitely with enemies both foreign and domestic. Definitely not have to put up with sedition as blatant as has ever existed in recent history and expect to wage any kind of a war anywhere.
If we are not willing to deal with the traitors among us how can we ever expect to wage a successful war ever again?
I am not prepared to blame GW for the problem; it has been developing for generations. But we can insist or demand that all foreign nationals domestically delivering our news be deported immediately. That would be a good start...

[gunnedah]

America lost in Korea,Vietnam and Desert Storm simply because of politics. Every-time we leave it to the politicans instead of the military to run a war we lose.
Truman stopped MacArthur simply because of politics and he, Truman, felt vulnerable to MacArthur politically. Had MacArthur been left alone China probably wouldn't be the threat it is today nor would Vietnam simply because foreign countries know how to push the buttons of our politicians.Foreign countries now read America like a book.
Being politically correct in Vietnam cost us that war. When you fight a war by the book you have written and bring all these foreign governments in to train them under that book you not only lose your advantage you give it to the enemy and our politicians have not learned a damn thing over the last 54 years.
Desert Storm was a loss for all intents and purposes because of the politicians, including Bush #1 following the UN. Remember this is the same UN we now find in up to its neck in graft. This graft even leads to Koffi. This is the same UN that allowed France,Germany and no telling how many other of its members to steal from the poor souls in Iraq and gave Saddam a free reign to do damn well as he pleased. It is the same France and Germany that were on the take that manipulated all of our great leaders in the Democrat Party to stand by them and demand we get their approval.These are the same Democrat leaders that make it almost impossible to win a war because of their Rhetoric and aid to the enemy in the time of war. Some of these same leaders were doing the same thing in the Vietnam War.
I could care less about dissenting opinions before or after a war but during a war the SOB's should be hung for treason.
The Democrat Party in is the pocket of Koffi Annan and the UN and if left up to them America will lose her sovereignty and we will be ruled by a dictator. No telling how many of those dollars from Iraq made their way to the Democrat Party just as those from China and the Buddhist Temple.

[MizSterious]

You zeroed in on what made me laugh hardest--O'Reilly? That's no conservative, that's a guy who'll say whatever it takes to get ratings. Right now, he (and other Fox commentators) are courting the 'rat viewers. And he really loves these headlines, trust me.

[kabar]

They are mixing apples and oranges. We are talking about a handover date to the interim Iraqi government not an exit date for the US. Militarily we will be there for years maintaining the security enviroment with the Iraqi authorities. Lugan may question the transfer date but he supports our continuing presence there. This is another CBS anti-Bush piece.

[FierceDraka]

Thay are really cranking up the propaganda machine.

Once again, consider the source for this - CBS News. Run by none other than the Goebbels of the American Left, Dan Rather.

[Unicorn]

B/S

[Helms]

""The O’Reilly Factor." The leading conservative commentator"

Ha! Reilly is closer to Pat Buchannan and O'Reilly is out of his league on this issue. He is somewhat of a bully and is an Independent-not the conservative movement. Recall his old days as a schlep reporter who went to school and came up with an interesting business plan.

[Helms]

"Name and town,name and town, if you care to opine."

Bill has largely opinions to share. There are many on this forum that have a better understanding of dynamics than O'Reilly. Certainly Rush does. His is a minority opinion.

Sorry, no factor gear for me til he stops his faux contrarian position.