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FR Exclusive: Jeb answers questions about his support of drivers licenses for undocumented workers
Jeb's emails to FR poster, summer | April 6, 2004 | Jeb Bush

Posted on 04/06/2004 6:58:21 PM PDT by summer

Note to FR, from summer:

FYI -- I am posting here below: (1) an email I sent to Gov Bush today, (2) his email response to me, and (3) another email response he directed to me, and you, from his office.

As most people here know (because I wrote about it at length on FR), I previously had a long dialogue with Gov Bush about education, via email. And, at times, I have emailed him about issues of concern to people on FR.

Consequently, this is another exclusive for you.

summer

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Email #1, from me to Gov Bush, today:

-----Original Message-----

From: [summer]
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 3:11 PM
To: Jeb Bush
Subject: FR person's fax to you

FR Person's fax to you

Gov Bush, I'm sending a copy of this to you, as suggested in the headline, so that if you want to respond online, to the people reading it, let me know and I will post it for you. [summer]


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Email #2, from Gov Bush to me, in response to above:

----- Original Message -----

From: Jeb Bush
To: [summer]
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 6:54 PM
Subject: RE: FR person's fax to you

[summer], I will get [my office] to respond to you.

Jeb


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Email #3, directed by Gov Bush to me and you, from his office, to all here:

----- Original Message -----

From: [Gov Bush's office]
To: 'Jeb Bush'; [summer]
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 7:25 PM
Subject: RE: FR person's fax to you

[summer] --

I hope the below Q&A is helpful. Please let me know if you need anything else.

Best,

[Gov Bush's office]

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Florida Safe Driving Act

[1] Why give driver licenses to undocumented aliens?

Florida has no power over immigration and naturalization issues, but it does have a duty to protect the safety of its citizens. Allowing Florida’s more than 400,000 illegal aliens to obtain a driver license under very strict conditions will increase safety on our roads and highways. It will boost compliance with Florida’s auto registration and insurance laws.

Also, a separate provision in the bill makes it easier for people with visas to renew their Florida driver licenses. Many individuals from outside the country visit Florida annually for an extended period of time. The new law allows them to renew their licenses every two years, rather than having it automatically expire every time they leave the country.

[2]Why wouldn’t the state just deport the aliens once they have verified their identity?

Under Federal law, no state has the power to deport anyone; it is exclusively the domain of the Federal government.

[3]What does the bill require?

This bill creates some of the highest verification standards in the country. It has more than 15 requirements for approval, and it requires the consulates to provide the applicant’s documentation to the state of Florida.

Aliens would be required to:

Ø show an identification card with digital image that has been produced with standards that would prevent counterfeiting;

Ø provide a second form of identification;

Ø submit fingerprints to the state; and

Ø agree to a criminal background check from their country of origin, the state of Florida and the United States.

The bill creates a mechanism for Florida to work with foreign consulates to approve a stringent means by which to verify the alien’s identity and ensure the consulate is not issuing a duplicate ID. Any consulate that cannot meet these verification standards will not be able to participate in the program.

Among the requirements consulates must show:

Ø documentation that the applicant has not been convicted, or is wanted of a crime equal to a felony in his home country;

Ø a certified copy of the applicant’s official driving record from home country;

Ø certification that the form of identification is legitimate;

Ø certification that the underlying documents used to issue identification are legitimate; and

Ø certification that the home country has security system in place to prevent multiple issuance of identification cards to the same individual.

[4] Who does this bill not apply to?

Aliens from countries on the U.S. State Department’s list of state sponsors of terrorism are prohibited from applying, as are those who are subject to an order of deportation. Felons cannot apply nor can aliens who cannot establish presence in the state for at least six months in the past five years.

[5] How does this differ from California law?

First, California law did not exclude applicants from the list of countries maintained by the U.S. Department of State as state sponsors of terrorism. In addition, California did not require state and national criminal background checks, nor did it provide procedures in conjunction with foreign consulates to verify identity and criminal backgrounds with an applicant’s home country.

[6] Where will the licenses be valid?

The licenses are valid in Florida only, for two years. They will have a distinct look from standard driver licenses.

[7]How will the bill be implemented?

Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles will be responsible for adopting stringent procedures and coordinating with the consulates to ensure verifications of identity and background history of aliens. Consulates will have to provide certifications of the processes they have in place to establish identity of their citizens who apply. If a consulate does not meet these standards, their citizens will be prohibited from applying.

[8]What are the benefits of issuing the licenses?

First and foremost, this bill promotes safety by requiring that aliens pass driving tests before they get on the road. It will also boost compliance with Florida’s auto registration and insurance laws. Increasing the number of insured drivers is an enormous benefit to all on the road. Currently, a licensed driver who gets into an auto accident with an unlicensed alien has no means to recover damages against the uninsured alien.

There are also law enforcement benefits; a database of licensed drivers helps law enforcement verify the identity of a driver who is pulled over. Unlicensed, undocumented aliens currently are not part of this database.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Florida; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; driverlicenses; fl; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; jebbush; safetyno; turass
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I know there has been heated discussion on this topic today, so I hope the info above is helpful in furthering an intelligent debate based on actual facts.

I also realize the above info may not answer all your questions, so if you have other questions, please post on this thread, and I will do my best to obtain answers for you.

Finally, I trust people here will at least READ the above information that Gov Bush has taken the time to share with you. IMO, not every governor would take the time to provide this information to you, and I am more than happy to post it for him. He is still my favorite governor.

Thanks, summer :)
1 posted on 04/06/2004 6:58:23 PM PDT by summer
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To: MegaSilver; NonValueAdded
FYI.
3 posted on 04/06/2004 7:00:30 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
He isn't saying anything that wasn't said previously by Gray Davis.
4 posted on 04/06/2004 7:00:51 PM PDT by ambrose ("I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it" - John F. al-Query)
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To: summer
Thanks Summer...I'll have to absorb this a little later and compare with the similar situation with Arnold out here in California.
5 posted on 04/06/2004 7:01:59 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Gay marriage is for suckers...)
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To: The Energizer; WRhine; rhombus; joesnuffy; gubamyster; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; ...
FYI.
6 posted on 04/06/2004 7:03:47 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
"Florida has no power over immigration and naturalization issues"...

BOOM!!! There's the problem!!!

Let the states decide!!!

Everything else is irrelevant. If you disagree, feel free to live next door to an illegal family...
7 posted on 04/06/2004 7:03:48 PM PDT by baltodog ("Never feel sorry for a man who owns his own plane.")
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To: ambrose
He isn't saying anything that wasn't said previously by Gray Davis.

See question #5 re CA.
8 posted on 04/06/2004 7:05:09 PM PDT by summer
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To: ErnBatavia
Thanks Summer...

You're welcome, ErnBatavia. Thanks for your post. It is a lot to absorb, and I will be reading it again and thinking about it more, too.
9 posted on 04/06/2004 7:06:18 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
Thanks for the info. I do agree on the insurance angle.. if this helps get uninsured drivers insured, that would be a good thing for all of us.
10 posted on 04/06/2004 7:09:25 PM PDT by Jennifer in Florida
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To: *immigrant_list
FYI.
11 posted on 04/06/2004 7:10:06 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
Great Googamooga! With friends like these...

Has every elected Pubbie in this nation lost his/her backbone? Have they completely forgotten the difference between right and wrong? Or is everything these days about getting re-elected, or elected to higher office? This has me ready to recycle my dinner.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

12 posted on 04/06/2004 7:10:13 PM PDT by wku man (Breathe, Relax, Aim, Squeeze...)
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To: Jennifer in Florida
Thanks for your post, Jennifer. I appreciate that you took the time to read this info from Gov Bush. :)
13 posted on 04/06/2004 7:10:43 PM PDT by summer
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To: wku man
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

LOL...did you actually read it? If so, what question would like to ask Gov Bush?
14 posted on 04/06/2004 7:11:33 PM PDT by summer
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To: Dog Gone; PhiKapMom; Miss Marple; RightOnline
FYI.
15 posted on 04/06/2004 7:13:04 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
Thanks, summer. With all of the requirements, it seems to me that very few illegals will be getting licenses, anyway.
16 posted on 04/06/2004 7:15:53 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: summer; CyberCowboy777
Thank you again, Summer
& Governor Bush.

Cyber, a ping please. We have an (almost ;) direct line to Governor Bush, let's give him some feed back. :)
17 posted on 04/06/2004 7:16:50 PM PDT by Libertina (FRee Republic - What have you done for her lately? CONTRIBUTE 5 or 10!)
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To: summer
thank you, summer.

When I saw that Gary Fineout wrote the Miami.com article I knew that it would be skewed against Governor Bush, so I avoided the thread with its over-the-top reactions from non-Floridians.
Thank you for taking the time to write to him and give him the chance to clarify.

18 posted on 04/06/2004 7:18:28 PM PDT by EllaMinnow ("Pessimism never won any battle." - Dwight D. Eisenhower)
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To: Libertina
let's give him some feed back. :)

Exactly right! Thanks, Libertina. :)
19 posted on 04/06/2004 7:18:36 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
I would like to see some kind of insurance requirement.

Why couldn't illegal immigrants post a bond if they want a license?
20 posted on 04/06/2004 7:19:36 PM PDT by livius
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