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IRAQ: 12 Marines, 66 Iraqis Killed in Battles
The Las Vegas Sun ^ | April 06, 2004 at 18:16:01 PDT | HAMZA HENDAWI

Posted on 04/06/2004 6:22:06 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

NAJAF, Iraq (AP) -

Insurgents and rebellious Shiites mounted a string of attacks across Iraq's south and U.S. Marines launched a major assault on the turbulent city of Fallujah on Tuesday. Up to a dozen Marines, two more coalition soldiers and at least 66 Iraqis were reported killed.

Reports from the city of Ramadi, near Fallujah, said dozens of Iraqis attacked a Marine position near the governor's palace, a senior defense official said from Washington. "A significant number" of Marines were killed, and initial reports indicate it may be up to a dozen, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

U.S. authorities also launched a crackdown on radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr al-Sadr and his militia after a series of weekend uprisings in Baghdad and cities and towns to the south that took a heavy toll in both American and Iraqi lives. The fighting marks the first major outbreak of violence between the U.S.-led occupation force and the Shiites since Baghdad fell a year ago.

Two more coalition soldiers - an American in Baghdad and a Ukrainian in Kut - were killed in fighting. The deaths brought the three-day total to up to about 30 Americans and 136 Iraqis killed in the worst fighting since the war that toppled Saddam Hussein.

In the Ramadi fighting, heavy casualties were inflicted on the insurgents as well, officials said. It was not immediately known who the attackers were, nor whether the attack was related to fighting under way in nearby Fallujah.

On the Fallujah front, Marines drove into the center of the Sunni city in heavy fighting before pulling back before nightfall. The assault had been promised after the brutal killings and mutilations of four American civilians there last week. Hospital officials said eight Iraqis died Tuesday and 20 were wounded, including women and children.

U.S. warplanes firing rockets destroyed four houses in Fallujah after nightfall Tuesday, witnesses said. A doctor said 26 Iraqis, including women and children, were killed and 30 wounded in the strike. The deaths brought to 34 the number of Iraqis killed in Fallujah on Tuesday, including eight who died in street battles earlier in the day.

The dusty, Euphrates River city 35 miles west of Baghdad is a stronghold of the anti-U.S. insurgency that sprang up shortly after Saddam's ouster a year ago.

With fighting intensifying ahead of the June 30 handover of power to an Iraqi government, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld said American commanders in Iraq would get additional troops if needed. None has asked so far, he said.

State Department deputy spokesman Adam Ereli said al-Sadr and his followers were not representative of a religious cause but of "political gangsterism."

The 30-year-old al-Sadr, however, does not have a large following among majority Shiites - many see him as a renegade, too young and too headstrong to lead wisely.

"They're not acting in the name of religion, they're acting in the name of arrogating for themselves political power and influence through violence, because they can't get it through peaceful persuasion," he said.

Five Marines were killed Monday - one in Fallujah and the others on the western outskirts of Baghdad. A U.S. soldier was killed in Baghdad Tuesday, a day after two more were killed there. On Sunday, two soldiers were killed in Kirkuk and Mosul. Excluding the report out of Ramadi on Tuesday evening, at least 614 American troops have died in Iraq since the war began.

Marines waged a fierce battle for hours Tuesday with gunmen holed up in a residential neighborhood of Fallujah. The military used a deadly AC-130 gunship to lay down a barrage of fire against guerrillas, and commanders said Marines were holding an area several blocks deep inside the city. At least two Marines were wounded.

The crackdown on al-Sadr, who has drawn backing from young and impoverished Shiites with rousing sermons demanding a U.S. withdrawal, sent his black-garbed militiamen against coalition troops Sunday, Monday and Tuesday.

Fighting in the southern cities of Nasiriyah, Kut, Karbala and Amarah and in a northern Baghdad neighborhood killed 30 Iraqis, coalition military officials said. Tuesday evening, gunfire was heard in another part of Baghdad, Sadr City, where fierce battles occurred Sunday, residents said.

Fearing a U.S. move to arrest him, al-Sadr on Tuesday left a fortress-like mosque in the city of Kufa, south of Baghdad, where he had been holed up for days, his aides said.

Al-Sadr issued a statement saying he was ready to die to oust the Americans. He urged his followers to resist foreign forces.

"America has shown its evil intentions, and the proud Iraqi people cannot accept it. They must defend their rights by any means they see fit," the al-Sadr statement said.

"I'm prepared to have my own blood shed for what is holy to me," he said.

Al-Sadr moved to his main office in Najaf, in an alley near the city's holiest shrine, according to a top aide, Sheik Qays al-Khaz'ali. Hundreds of militiamen were protecting the office Tuesday, but there was no independent confirmation al-Sadr was there.

Perhaps more worrisome than the current fight with al-Sadr's forces is the possibility that he will start drawing support from more mainstream Shiite leaders who have largely supported the Americans until now.

The U.S.-led coalition announced a murder warrant against al-Sadr on Monday and suggested it would move to capture him soon. U.S. officials would not explain why they were only releasing word of the warrant Monday. They said an unnamed Iraqi judge had issued it in the past months.

Still, the heavy battles over the past three days showed that even with limited backing, al-Sadr's al-Mahdi Army militia is capable of a damaging fight.

The militiamen clashed with coalition troops Sunday in Baghdad and outside Najaf in fierce fighting that killed 61 people, including eight American soldiers.

In Nasiriyah on Tuesday, 15 Iraqis were killed and 35 wounded in clashes between militiamen and Italian troops, coalition spokeswoman Paola Della Casa told an Italian news agency Apcom. Eleven Italians troops were slightly wounded.

Della Casa said the Iraqi attackers used civilians as human shields, and a woman and two children were among the dead.

Fighting overnight in Amarah between al-Sadr's followers and British troops killed 15 Iraqis and wounded eight, said coalition spokesman Wun Hornbyckle.

In Kut, militiamen attacked an armored personnel carrier carrying Ukrainian soldiers, killing one and wounding five, the Ukrainian Defense Ministry said. Two militiamen were killed in the fight. Ukraine has about 1,650 troops in Iraq.

U.S. Marines encircled Fallujah early Monday, and on Tuesday, they penetrated several central neighborhoods for the first time. Mortar and rocket-propelled grenade blasts were heard, and one witness said a Humvee was ablaze.

Heavy fighting also occurred between Marines entrenched in the desert and guerrillas firing from houses on Fallujah's northeast outskirts. For hours into the night, the sides traded fire, while teams of Marines moved in and out of the neighborhood, seizing buildings to use as posts and battling gunmen. Helicopters weaved overhead, firing at guerrilla hide-outs.

"We are several blocks deep in the city of Fallujah," Marine Maj. Briandon McGolwan said. He said several helicopters were hit by small arms fire, but none were downed. He said Marines had detained 14 people since Monday.

L. Paul Bremer, the top civilian administrator in Iraq, conceded not all was going smoothly as the coalition approached the June 30 handover, a date he said was inviolable.

"We have problems, there's no hiding that. But basically Iraq is on track to realize the kind of Iraq that Iraqis want and Americans want, which is a democratic Iraq," he said on ABC's "Good Morning America."

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Associated Press reporters Bassem Mroue and Lourdes Navarro contributed to this report from Fallujah.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alsadr; iraq; muslims
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To: Joe Boucher
May God be with your nephew.I am so sorry .My humble gratitude for his service,prayers for his healing.May God be with you and your family at this very trying time.
81 posted on 04/06/2004 7:11:58 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
In my opinion, Iraqis not worth saving from themselves. No lust for democracy that I can see. But cut and run solution likely will turn Iraq into Islamic dictatorship (after a civil war) and an haven for terrorism in short order. Question is, will our staying make any difference in that eventual outcome?
82 posted on 04/06/2004 7:12:47 PM PDT by luvbach1 (In the know on the border)
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To: Dane
Better go take care of some guy I heard of that was making threats against America. He lives in a Amazon rainforest his group was making anti-American statements I understand. Go take care of him now. Remember how we let Hitler slide in the 30's. Can't make the same mistake with this Amazon madman.
83 posted on 04/06/2004 7:13:09 PM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: Hand em their arse
how about the fact that if we do not help civilize their country ANOTHER Saddam could emerge, supply weapons to groups of scumbags like Al Quada and then it would cost a sh*tpot more lives on our own soil.

Huh? Is that what were there for? To help civilize the Iraqi people???

Our focus and direction sure has changed.

84 posted on 04/06/2004 7:14:05 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: luvbach1
I, too, have concluded that Greg Weston is most likely a 13 year-old. I choose not to waste any more time with him.
85 posted on 04/06/2004 7:15:01 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: Greg Weston
12 more victims of neo-CON nonsense. Way to go CONS. When you going to get around to protect our own borders? Wanting to stupidly play world cop getting brave Americans killed distracting you from the real problems?

When the war is over there, the jihadis take more casualties than we do. When the war was over here, we took over 3000 to their 19. I want the war over there.

86 posted on 04/06/2004 7:16:19 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)
Like it or not, Iraq was one of the biggest supporters of terrorism in the Middle East

Got a link on that:

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Report Details Saddam's Support for Terrorists Who Killed Americans

The above link is the FreeRepublic discussion thread.

The actual article is :

"Saddam Hussein’s Philanthropy of Terror"

It is a pdf document with substantial footnotes and put together by Dewey Murdock of the Hudson Institute.

87 posted on 04/06/2004 7:16:37 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: luvbach1
>>Question is, will our staying make any difference in that eventual outcome?<<

Well it will make the eventual outcome of the number of our brave soldiers who will be casualties to be higher. Thanks neo-CONS.
88 posted on 04/06/2004 7:16:53 PM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: Greg Weston
"Better go take care of some guy I heard of that was making threats against America. He lives in a Amazon rainforest his group was making anti-American statements I understand. Go take care of him now. Remember how we let Hitler slide in the 30's. Can't make the same mistake with this Amazon madman"


After reading your above "well thought through" response to Dane, I've come to one conclusion:

You are an idiot
89 posted on 04/06/2004 7:16:53 PM PDT by Hand em their arse
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To: Gunslingr3

Tet offensive only succeeded in Vietnam because we cut and ran (with help from the domestic "peace" movement). The Shiite/Sunni "Tet" offensive will only succeed for precisely the same reasons.
90 posted on 04/06/2004 7:17:12 PM PDT by luvbach1 (In the know on the border)
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To: Cedric
Greg's been here a long time. No need to call those that are sickened by our losses as worthy of insult.

It's rough now. We need to know that
91 posted on 04/06/2004 7:17:23 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: Hand em their arse
You must be a neo-CON. One of the true idiots.
92 posted on 04/06/2004 7:18:15 PM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: Joe Boucher
I am so sorry about your nephew. My son's there too.
93 posted on 04/06/2004 7:18:19 PM PDT by Ray'sBeth
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To: Poohbah; hchutch; Travis McGee; All
Check out some of the replies on this thread, if your stomach's strong.

I just can't believe that, on a day like today, some Americans would rather argue and fight with other Americans than our enemies.

I also cannot understand why some people think that a Mexican coming over the border to work at a Wal-Mart is a worse threat than terrorist-sponsoring states.

They are SO angry that those borders weren't sealed off, but not because they're worried about Terrs.

Good men died today. Today, I don't care about poll numbers, neo or paleo-cons, or even Leftists. On days like today, we are all AMERICANS, dammit.

Or at least we SHOULD be.

94 posted on 04/06/2004 7:18:21 PM PDT by Long Cut (Hell of a thing, killin' a man. You take away all he's got, and all he's ever gonna have)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks! That's great info!
95 posted on 04/06/2004 7:18:30 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Roman Imperial motto: "Let them hate, so long as they fear.")
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To: SandRat
We continue to prove to the enemy that we do not have the will to fight. Our press continues to do their bidding.

All we can really do, imho, is keep our eyes on the prize, remember what's at stake, the nature of this enemy, the honor of our troops who are risking their lives for our freedom - because those who think they can protect our borders are living in dreamworld.

We have no choice but to fight this enemy.....and under all the spin and hype and negativity - our Marines performed admirably today, and we lost very few troops in this battle.

Our far weaker enemies are emboldened by their PR agents, the free Western press running the 2004 Dem. election campaign (and who haven't yet grasped, imho, the nature of the enemy they're appeasing).

There was real, factual, substantive good news out there today....but few are interested, as the mainstream press owns the public square....and the hearts and minds of the American people.

Iraq ~ Fallujah, Day 2:
 
8 U.S. Forces Conducting Raids in Fallujah ~ + updates on the fighting in Ramadi. ~ DoD | 4/06/04 | Jim Garamone
 
8 Four Marines, Three Soldiers Killed in Iraq ~ CJTF7 security recap ~ DoD |  4/06/04
 
8 Three Task Force 1st Armored Division Soldiers Killed During Separate Incidents ~  CJTF-7 | 4/06/04

8 Twelve Detained in Raid ~  CJTF-7 |  4/06/04

8 Pendleton Marines cordon Fallujah ~  Marine Link | 4/06/04 | Gunnery Sgt. Mark Oliva

8 Defend America Photo Essay ~ Operation Vigilant Resolve ~ 4/06/04

8 Coalition soldiers train Iraqi Armed Forces to join fight ~ Army News Service | 4/05/04 | Spc. Aaron Ritter

8 US Offensive in Fallujah intensifies ~  various | 4/06/04

8 Marines Battle Enemy Fighters in Fallujah ~  "ENEMY" - from WP! ~ Washington Post | 4/06/04 | Pamela Constable

8 Bush Vows to Arrest Iraq Cleric to Quell Violence ~ Reuters | 4/06/04 | Jeremy Pelofsky, Michael Georgy

8 A Soldier Assures Us: Our Progress Is Amazing ~ Houston Chronicle | 4/05/04 | Joe Roche

8 Private Guards Repel Attack on US Headquarters ~ Blackwater Security, we will not forget your sacrifices, either ~ Washington Post | 4/06/04 | Dana Priest

8 A Marked Difference: Most Shiite Arabs Oppose Attacks; Islamic State Is Not Preferred ~ ABCNEWS | 4/05/04 | Gary Langer

96 posted on 04/06/2004 7:18:57 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Today we did what we had to do.They counted on America to be passive.They counted wrong."- R Reagan)
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To: Monty22
#92
97 posted on 04/06/2004 7:19:30 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
"Huh? Is that what were there for? To help civilize the Iraqi people???"

No of course not, that was only one part of my response to a moronic comment made above... it obviously goes well past just "civilizing" Iraq..

98 posted on 04/06/2004 7:19:49 PM PDT by Hand em their arse
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To: Long Cut
BRAVO!!..AMERICA..HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE
99 posted on 04/06/2004 7:22:06 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Monty22
Check #83. Truly juvenile.
100 posted on 04/06/2004 7:23:08 PM PDT by Cedric
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