"Halt the Assault": Million Mom Marchers to Return to D.C. After 4 Years, Thousands of Lost Lives

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=117-04062004 ^

[darth]

The students WERE ARMED. The first to engage the Texas Tower Madman were University of Texas students who retrieved rifles from their vehicles. It was in the 1960s and it was still common to see a rifle on the rack in the back window of pickup trucks.

[Griptilian]

Bump

[AnalogReigns]

What are the MMMs?

[dljordan]

Yeah, but the media will make it look like there's two million.

[Jack Black]

One hundred freepers with large red hammer and sickle flags taking part enthusiastically in the march anyone?

[Monty22]

"not really banned, just some from certain countries are banned from import--the exact same kinds of guns can be US made...) "

Incorrect. USA manufacturers can not produce 11+ round mags for civilian use. Or folding stocks for new rifles, or ones with bayonet lugs.

[meatloaf]

Mudblood, you need to do some research. Automatic weapons aren't covered by the ban. Machine guns, silencers, destructive devices, etc. are covered by the National Firearms Act of 1934. FWIW, they are legal for private ownership under federal law but some states won't permit their citizens to own them.

So called assault weapons, semiautomatic ugly guns, in many cases fire a smaller round than semiautomatic hunting rifles. The guy in the bell tower wasn't using semiautomatic rifles per my recollection. If he'd been using small caliber poodle-shooter assault weapons, the carnage wouldn't have been as bad.

The assault weapons ban was nothing other than feel good legislation. Stick around. You might learn something.

[GETMAIN]

Just in time for America's children to go back to school, Uzis and AK-47s will be for sale legally again.

Gee, what a suprise to find a flat-out lie just a few sentences into the article. They don't waste any time.

[correctthought]

Oh yeah, good point, forgot about that. :)

[mudblood]

I agree with "why weren't they armed" in regards to the folks going up the stairs who got it first. The folks on the ground had no hope though. Still, as stated above, he didn't have an assault weapon. My point in mentioning him was that these incidents make me afraid of going in public, to some extent. I still go in public, but I have a very active imagination, I keep imagining being shot or something, every time I walk through a parking lot. I live in Northern VA, DC sniper worried me more than I'd like to admit. He should be forced to experience low level torture for the rest of his days, with a doctor at hand at all times so that he doesn't die.

[mudblood]

"They ought to march about the 40 million lives lost to real WMD: forceps and suction devices used to kill unborn innocents. "

One march at a time :) Seriously, though, I'm not a lover of activism. We didn't need people marching on washington to get the "no call list" passed, and we don't need these women. All they do is clog up the streets.

[doberville]

The guy in the Texas tower, Charles Whittaker (?) had a PM done after his death. Cerebral tumor was a cause of that behaviour.

[doberville]

The guy in the Texas tower, Charles Whittaker (?) had a PM done after his death. Cerebral tumor was a cause of that behaviour.

[ASA Vet]

let the Marines handle the rest

Do you support only allowing Marines to retain the other
9 Amendments in the bill of rights too, or is it just the
2nd that you don't understand?

[mudblood]

That was a very long post, eating up my bandwidth. Seriously though, I'm not for making gun ownership illegal. I've been trying to convince my wife to let us get a gun for the house for over a year now. She's just about ready to do it. Her brother told her not to let me, and yet that same person survived an encounter with a couple of muggers at the beach by pretending he was going to get his gun. They came out of nowhere and demanded they (him, the kids, wife) hand over the cash. He said, "I'm getting my gun." and they split. In his shoes, I would have wanted a real gun there. Also in this same family's history: a guy in detroit was outside their door pounding away with a shotgun, demanded that they take their white asses out of there (something like that)- they called the cops, but I would have wanted a gun there (they lived). A friend of mine had some folks break in, and he cocked his gun while they were pawing around the kitchen - they fled when they heard him. I'm all for guns. My worry is someone opening up with an automatic. I'm sorry if you folks think I'm being irrational, perhaps I am - I also am afraid of flying because I don't trust the mechanics, nor the airline security in general. If I'd avoided one of those 9/11 flights I would have been right.

[dirtboy]

"Halt the Assault": Million Mom Marchers to Return to D.C. After 4 Years, Thousands of Lost Lives

Oooh, baby, that just puts me into a Johnny Cochran kind of mood:

"If they're all twits, you must acquit!"

[mudblood]

To be honest, I'm more concerned about automatic weapons, not semi-automatics. I used to shoot a piddly 22-semi-auto when I was a kid running around the hills of West Virginia (I'd visit in the summer). Those suckers can break the skin (heh). Honestly, I'm not really up on the issue as much as you folks are and didn't come prepared for a debate.

[Peter J. Huss]

My worry is someone opening up with an automatic.

Unlikely. There has been one recorded death from a full auto in the US in modern times and that was a cop who stole it from his department in the gun free zone of Chicago and popped his x-wife. There are many other more rational things to fear. Wear your seat belt, eat reasonably, don't smoke or drink and you will be 100% safer than you are today. Ban full autos from the hands of collectors and you are 0% safer.

[mudblood]

"The guy in the Texas tower, Charles Whittaker (?) had a PM done after his death. Cerebral tumor was a cause of that behaviour."

The history channel said that the neurosurgens don't think that tumor did anything. His actions were incredibly calculated, very well prepared for ahead of time (did you see the show?), he wrote quite a bit, was very articulate, and incredibly screwed up. He knew what he was doing was wrong and did it anyway. If he was suffering from a tumor that was causing this then he was selective in how he revealed it: nobody knew anything until he opened up on those folks.

[mudblood]

"Do you support only allowing Marines to retain the other
9 Amendments in the bill of rights too, or is it just the
2nd that you don't understand?"

I actually don't understand the 2nd amendment that well. Just how far does it go? We started with muskets, and now we're up to assault weapons (technologically), where does it end? Does "keep and bear arms" allow for rocket launchers, grenades, landmines, bazooka's, etc? I'm sure that there's probably a point at which some folks in this forum would raise their hand and go "the 2nd ammendment stops about there", each at various stages I'm sure. For my part, it stops at automatic weapons. Many of the folks here have already claimed that the bill is against semi-auto's that LOOK dangerous, which sounds silly. I'm not really an expert in these issues, I'll keep listening and reading. But I don't care if the founding father's showed up and said "yep, it includes fully auto uzi's" I'll be damned if I vote to allow people to purchase them.