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10 U.S. Troops Killed in Iraqi Violence (4 April, 2004)
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Posted on 04/04/2004 4:22:35 PM PDT by Happy2BMe

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To: Blood of Tyrants
You cannot meet savagery with civility.

Precisely. ....and the results are predictable. Any attempt to convince the Muslim world that we're "really nice guys" and that they should jump on the America-led civilization bandwagon rather than continue to live in poverty and ignorance is simply doomed to failure, and I have a great piece of land in Gaza to sell to anyone who believes otherwise.

The only language the Muslim world is capable of understanding is the language of overwhelming military power and the will to use it, so pussyfooting around and worrying about our image is worse than an utter waste of time -- it's dangerous.

121 posted on 04/04/2004 7:18:28 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: MEG33
One note,only one note.

Are you referring to our own borders?

Do you really think your going to kill all those that hate worldwide? Isn't going to happen friend.

Would it not make sense to protect ourselves here at home? We are so concerned about terrorism, yet hundreds of thousands enter this country illegally at will. Do you not see a slight discrepancy here? Our doors and windows are wide open.

If you have groups of people that are trying to kill your entire family, would you not lock your doors and windows to your home? Would you not do everything in your power to protect your home and family?

Or would you allow anyone to enter that happened by?

122 posted on 04/04/2004 7:21:28 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Happy2BMe
I want strafing.
123 posted on 04/04/2004 7:21:37 PM PDT by StarCMC (Kalen is home!!! Kalen is home!!! Thank you for all your prayers and support!!)
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To: jackbill
One of the things that is pissing me off is the constant blather that it will take years to train Iraqis. In 1952, I received 16 weeks basic training and was sent to Korea as a heavy weapons infantryman. What takes so long?

From someone on the ground in Iraq who knows (not a member of the mainstream press w/ anti-American Iraqi sources):

"i just ran across this today, and oddly enough just this morning i was at the ICDC camp here at camp freedom and took some shots for my xanga - i watched the instructors drill them and punish them and reward them, and the trainees were just as motivated as any troops i have seen."
9 posted on 02/21/2004 3:35:16 PM EST by tat2jay
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1080897/posts?page=9#9 
 
~ tat2jay = Sgt. Justin Harris, US Army Photographer:
 Bremer Visits Iraqi Civil Defense Corps ~ Defend America Photo Essay  ~ Defend America  | 1/29/04
 
 
~ His blog: www.xanga.com/tat2jay     
 
More on the courageous Iraqi security forces:
 
 ~ ICDC in Baghdad ~ AP | 2/26/04:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1085759/posts

8 U.S. Troops Train Iraqi Civil Defense Corps Soldiers ~ Defend America | 2/18/04 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1080897/posts
8 CPA Briefing ~ 2/11/04 | Daniel Senor, Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, Dr. Hamid Kifa'i
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1076338/posts
8
CPA Briefing Ongoing Operations of TF 1AD and ICDC in Baghdad ~ 2/02/04 | Maj. Gen. Dempsey, 1AD, Capt. Fakr Al Jaleel, ICDC
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1070668/posts

8 ICDC Capabilities, Responsibilities Grow Through Al Anbar ~ CJTF 7 | 1/28/04
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1066908/posts
8 Iraqi Security Forces Continue To Exceed Recruitment Goals  ~ CJTF7 | 1/24/04
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1064330/posts

 
Most of our press is not on our side.
 

124 posted on 04/04/2004 7:21:57 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (Just $5/mo:THWART ENEMIES*SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!*http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1109539/posts)
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To: pickemuphere
Don't you get it? There isn't going to be any "Fallujah thing."

You're kidding, right ? ...


125 posted on 04/04/2004 7:22:05 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Become a monthly donor on FR. No amount is too small and monthly giving is the way to go !)
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Prayers for their families ...
126 posted on 04/04/2004 7:22:23 PM PDT by GretchenEE
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To: Joe Hadenuf; Lead Moderator
I'm trying to get this thread pulled.

I posted it and want it pulled.

127 posted on 04/04/2004 7:22:35 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: MeekOneGOP; All
Where in a world is our response and our forces!!! Where in a world is promise of attack!!! To avenge our own.

I wish I could use words differently, but not this week, I made a promise and I will keep it. There are other ways to show total outrage of what is going on.

I am so disgusted with this political nonsense, I have to take a rest, I am fuming and holding.

God Bless you all, soldiers are dying and politicians are just talking. I am Tired of it.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

128 posted on 04/04/2004 7:24:17 PM PDT by bogdanPolska12
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To: MeekOneGOP
Oh God, I feel miserable when I hear news like these. I can't help it. I wish all this would end tomorrow.

May God bless our troops, Guide them, and Protect them.

129 posted on 04/04/2004 7:25:53 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry said he wasn't at the '71 plot-to-kill meeting, then, he was but voted NO, now he can't recall)
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To: TomGuy; Libertina
Are we looking at another Somalia?


By the minutes passing and the lack of retribution... it's looking like a big yes. Yes we are.

WE should have had a plan for immediate reactions to expected events such as these in fallujah.
these guys, american civilians giving food aid, died in vain, without any rescue attempts... or reinforcements (of the immediate nature). help never came. Did they call for help? probably.
The military command let them fry. Period. Inexcusable.
and on whose orders? the panzy who said we will not fire if we might accidentally hit women and children? Thanks general, your fired. You just told the enemy how to keep us from killing him 98 percent of the time... with kids and women around.. WE LACK THE WILL TO FIGHT TO DEFEND OUR OWN!

Damned stupid comment to make.

Apache gunships should have been in the air 24/7, regardless of the cost, until that city was pacified... for the entire past year! Backing the coalition and the civilians attached to the war relief efforts.
The apaches should have been there in 2 minutes or less... HELL, los angeles has a more intensive sky cap of leos than fallujah... and this is in a friggin war zone with US citizens on the ground? Inexcusable.

Fallujah should have been leveled for at least three days by now.
It's not. And that means it's over. We lack the will to fight "unlimited warfare" against an enemy that HAS no such limitations. The muzzies have won in the realm of "motivation and morale."

and as a result the islamics all over the planet... are cranking up their death machines to press it even further now.

Bush is apparently unvilling to act, for fear that we will look like we are overreacting, might get slaughtered in fallujah, or receive worldwide condemnation for his war policies and thus lose the elections in November.

We started a WAR that is not over. For a peace that has not been won, or a surrender that has NOT been signed... and that we were unwilling to fight "full throttle."

All because some soft on terrorist person somewhere, wants to save the little "head stomping, aid worker burning" ten-year-olds and their demon possessed terrorist loving moms.

Crush without mercy, the enemies, or get out NOW.
"limited" warfare never won in vietnam, korea or israel...
Open the throttles Mr. Bush.
130 posted on 04/04/2004 7:26:38 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Why?
131 posted on 04/04/2004 7:26:41 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: TomasUSMC
"This would only make more Iraqi's go out and get an AK-47. Those words are what got us 911. Fear."

Hi! I think you're the guy who is over there. Before I respond, I just want to say thank you for being there and defending your country. Also, no matter what your political inclinations might be, I also would caution you to respect your service oath. You seem like a nice guy and I don't want you getting in trouble.

As for my quote above, please understand that we have to get the Iraqi's themselves involved in this whole process. To simplify matters somewhat, I'll ask a question: Given the fact that a death penalty is expected, should Saddam Hussein be tried by a US military tribunal or an Iraqi court? Consider the potential fallout from having him tried and executed by the US. I hope this illustrates the political implications involved here.

Godspeed and prayers for you getting home safely.

132 posted on 04/04/2004 7:26:46 PM PDT by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: All
Historical Link for Reference Purposes...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1109118/posts

"4 From U.S. Killed in Ambush in Iraq; Mob Drags Bodies"
NYT ^


Posted on 03/31/2004 11:03:39 PM PST by Happy2BMe



April 1, 2004


"4 From U.S. Killed in Ambush in Iraq; Mob Drags Bodies"
By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN



133 posted on 04/04/2004 7:26:49 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: ASOC; Happy2BMe
Prayers for your friend.Prayers for all who were lost today.

God bless our armed forces.I thank your sons for serving our country.
134 posted on 04/04/2004 7:27:45 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Crush without mercy, the enemies, or get out NOW. "limited" warfare never won in vietnam, korea or israel... Open the throttles Mr. Bush.

I agree. But sadly, it's not going to happen.

135 posted on 04/04/2004 7:28:40 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
We are so concerned about terrorism, yet hundreds of thousands enter this country illegally at will.

Yep, and many of those illegals are Muslims. In fact, in 2002 alone about 8,000 of all illegals arrested - ones that we actually caught - were “special interest aliens.” .....which means that they were from countries with known ties to terror.

Considering these #'s, it's not unreasonable to conclude that well over 100,000 illegal Muslims have entered the U.S. since 9/11.

136 posted on 04/04/2004 7:31:15 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Robert_Paulson2
"We started a WAR that is not over."

WE didn't start this war.

137 posted on 04/04/2004 7:31:28 PM PDT by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: TomasUSMC
May God be with you and guide the military to make right decisions.We are all very upset at the losses today.Thank you for serving our country.
138 posted on 04/04/2004 7:32:53 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Rokke
I know to be patient in war.

Bein' a Texan doesn't make that easy.

Yet our Houston avenged the Alamo at San Jancinto, spectacularly. After a wait that nearly made him a villain.

Texas War. It's a drinkin' sport, to be sure.

139 posted on 04/04/2004 7:33:47 PM PDT by txhurl (The Jihadists: spectacular media violence, zero military significance, huge psych significance.)
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To: yooper
I am retired. Not in Iraq. Sorry if I gave that impression.

When it comes to Saddam, his location should be made public to the shites, and be left unguarded. They would then have someone else to burn cut-up and hang.

We would save money, time, american lives.
140 posted on 04/04/2004 7:38:22 PM PDT by TomasUSMC
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