There are just too many questions about Brown's death. But I guess if the liberals see the Enron connection it will be Bush who had him killed.
1 posted on
04/03/2004 11:39:41 AM PST by
wagglebee
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To: wagglebee
Have you heard the latest about Elvis?
3 posted on
04/03/2004 11:43:11 AM PST by
devane617
To: wagglebee
Good read!
And I can only add one interesting aspect of this strange tale... That of BJ Clintoon, in his unforgettable style, laughing with someone as they walked into Ron Brown's funeral, seeing a camera trained on him, then - on a dime - pretending to weep as he brushed a tear on his cheek and bowed his head.
4 posted on
04/03/2004 11:51:08 AM PST by
Humidston
(You heard it here - BUSH/RICE - 2004)
To: wagglebee
Hmmmm, since the Vince Foster "Clinton murder conspiracy" (which I enjoyed) seems closed by the latest Supreme Court decision, I guess some folks need to re-open other "Clinton murder conspiracies"...
Anyone else see a connection (conspiracy)?
5 posted on
04/03/2004 12:01:29 PM PST by
Robert357
To: wagglebee
Is the author suggesting that Enron knew the plane was doomed & their execs stayed away?
6 posted on
04/03/2004 12:04:16 PM PST by
Ditter
To: wagglebee
I read just about everything on this subject at the time. There is virtually no doubt whatever that Ron Brown was murdered, and that the clintons gave the order. He was one week away from testifying, and he had said, "If I go down, the clintons go with me." He was wrong.
Coincidentally the Serb in charge of traffic at the airport Brown's plane was headed for committed "suicide" the next day. And a stewardess who survived the crash did not survive the helicopter ride to the hospital. Somebody cut the big artery in her leg on the way. And although the press all reported that the plane crashed in a major storm, the weather in that area was actually clear and sunny at the time. Hmmm.
Janet Reno investigated the case over the weekend after Dick Gregory got himself locked up in protest. She declared that all was fine, but somehow she forgot to question any of the forensic pathologists who had seen the bullet hole in the top of Ron Brown's head.
Joseph Farah some reporting on this. I see his website has the following book on offer, which I have not seen:
![](http://www.shopnetdaily.com/store/images/items/WB101.jpg)
But the most important investigative reporting on the death of Ron Brown was done by Christopher Ruddy. The archives of most of Ruddy's stuff can be found here:
http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=1999/1/31/173313
8 posted on
04/03/2004 12:12:43 PM PST by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: wagglebee
With the liberals recent fascination with conspiracy theories...ala Bush, this may be a good time to bring out some of these oldies but goodies. What's interesting is that the media would't dare touch any of these claims...and those that they did, were immediately dismissed. Not so for the Bush conspiracies, which are finding there way into the mouths of even elected politicians.
11 posted on
04/03/2004 12:26:02 PM PST by
cwb
(Kerry on terrorism "after" 9/11: "I think there has been an exaggeration")
To: wagglebee
Too bad BeAChooser is no longer a member as this is right up his alley..... He had every word ever written about Ron Brown and the crash or so it seemed.....
12 posted on
04/03/2004 12:29:00 PM PST by
deport
(("These guys are the most crooked, you know, lying group I have ever seen. It's scary," Kerry said.)
To: wagglebee
No wonder Clinton is so concerned with having his legacy written. The real Clinton legacy is mostly covered up. You've got murder conspiracies:
Ron Brown
Vince Foster
You've got rapes and sexual assaults:
Juanita Broderick
Kathleen Willey
Paula Jones
Plus, let's not forget the many lingering unanswered questions about:
Chinagate: espionage masquerading as campaign donations
TWA Flight 800
OKC Bombing
"There is none so blind as he who will not see." Words to live by if you're a Clinton democrat.
14 posted on
04/03/2004 12:58:40 PM PST by
GBA
(If we as country can survive two Clinton presidencies, we can survive anything.)
To: wagglebee
Wonder what will happen to Kerry if he gets in Hillary's way??
15 posted on
04/03/2004 1:00:04 PM PST by
Joee
To: wagglebee
I will never forget sitting in a salon in Washington DC the week after this happened. There were several black female school teachers speaking of this tragedy. They were insisting that the Republicans killed Ron Brown! I listened in astonishment thinking the Republicans certainly had more to gain from Ron Brown alive than the Clintons did! But, the lie that was being circulated, and I am sure still believed to this day, was that the Republicans killed Ron Brown.
To: wagglebee
Ron Brown died because he knew to much ...
about the Clintons.
24 posted on
04/03/2004 1:37:18 PM PST by
Smartass
To: wagglebee
Enron and Bill Clinton
Charles R. Smith
Thursday, Feb. 28, 2002
Trade Trips to Russia, India, Bosnia and Indonesia
I must admit to an error in my most recent article on the Enron scandal. Lovers of ex-President Bill Clinton will be overjoyed to find that Enron's top exec Ken Lay did not stay at the White House 11 times.
However, the bad news for those who still worship Mr. Clinton is that Enron not only donated $100,000 to Clinton's 1993 inauguration but, according to the records, also added an additional $25,000 to the Clinton 1993 celebrations.
The documented evidence shows that Enron did make it into the Clinton White House by special invitation. Senior Vice President Terrance H. Thorn had coffee with Bill Clinton on March 5, 1996.
Many of the other attendees of the Clinton White House coffee sessions also make up a long list of convicted criminals, arms dealers and bagmen for illegal DNC contributions.
For example, Wang Jun had coffee with Clinton in 1996. Wang is also the president of Poly Technologies, the largest arms trading firm owned by the People's Liberation Army. Poly Tech is currently banned from doing business in the United States after several of its top executives conspired to smuggle machine guns into the U.S. for sale to a major drug dealer who later turned out to be a Customs agent posing as a gangster.
Charlie "Yah Lin" Trie, who was later convicted of illegally passing hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Clinton/Gore re-election campaign, brought Wang into the White House. Trie also gave an additional $645,000 to the Democratic National Committee, and most of this money was from illegal foreign sources.
Trip to Russia
Enron's association with the Clinton White House comes even closer to home when you consider the many corporate foreign trade trips paid for by your tax dollars. In 1994, Enron's CEO Ken Lay surfaced on a list of attendees wishing to travel to Russia with Ron Brown.
One person who did make the trade trip to Russia was Roger Tamraz. Interpol then wanted Tamraz, a Lebanese oil financier, for embezzling nearly $80 million from a Middle Eastern bank. Tamraz, who made most of his money selling Libyan oil, would later give more than $300,000 to the DNC after having coffee with Bill Clinton in the White House.
Russia was not the only target of Enron wheeling-and-dealing with the Clinton administration. Enron execs traveled on a profitable trade trip to India with Ron Brown, landing a major contract for a power plant. The India power plant deal later fell apart with allegations of illegal payments and bribery.
Trip to Bosnia
Enron also traveled in 1997 to Bosnia with Commerce Secretary Kantor in hopes of landing a U.S. taxpayer-backed energy deal in the war-torn state. According to the Chicago Tribune, Enron made a $100,000 donation to the DNC just days prior to the trade mission to the former Yugoslav province. Commerce Department documents clearly note that Enron was interested in the "Zagreb" portion of the trip.
Even in the last days of Bill Clinton, Enron execs were on the go. Enron traveled to South Korea with Commerce Secretary William Daley in 1999. Daley would go on to run Vice President Al Gore's failed bid for the White House in 2000.
Trip to Indonesia
The most damning evidence linking Bill Clinton and Enron to corruption is the documentation that shows Enron received U.S. taxpayer monies in order to finance a corrupt deal with Indonesia.
P.T. East Java Power Corp., which was then 50.1 percent owned by Enron, wanted to conclude a deal for a 500 megawatt power plant in East Java, Indonesia. The 20-year deal was later signed by Enron with P.T. PLN Persero (PLN), Indonesia's state-owned electric utility, which agreed to purchase the power from the natural-gas-fired plant.
According to Enron, the natural gas for the project was to be provided by Pertamina, Indonesia's state-owned oil and gas company. Commerce Department documents noted that Pertamina stalled the project with excessive demands for gas prices.
"Enron is now engaged with Pertamina over access to natural gas. These discussions may prove difficult," states a 1994 Commerce Department advocacy document.
"Enron is registered for OPIC (Overseas Private Investment Corporation) insurance," states the document, noting that the giant corporation obtained U.S. taxpayer-backed insurance if the Indonesian deal fell apart.
Ron Brown Letters for Enron
Ron Brown personally sought approval for the Enron electric power plants inside Indonesia. According to a personal letter directed to the Indonesian Minister for Trade and Industry, Brown endorsed two Enron deals for gas-fired power plants with the corrupt Suharto regime.
"Enron power, a world renowned private power developer, is in the final stages of negotiating two combined cycle, gas turbine power projects," wrote Brown in his 1995 letter.
"The first, a 500 MW plant in East Java, should bring commercial power generation by the end of 1997 if it can promptly negotiate a gas supply Memorandum of Understanding with Pertamina. The other project, a smaller plant in East Kalimantan, also awaits a gas supply agreement.
"I urge you to give full consideration to the proposals," concluded Brown to the Indonesian minister. In October 1995, Brown wrote another letter, this time to Hartarto Sastrosurarto, Indonesia's Coordinating Minister for Trade and Industry, pressing him to conclude the Enron power plant deals.
"I would like to bring to your attention a number of projects involving American companies which seem to be stalled, including several independent power projects. These projects include the Tarahan power project, which involves Southern Electric; the gas powered projects in East Java and East Kalimantan, which involves Enron," wrote Brown.
"Your support for prompt resolution of the remaining issues associated with each of these projects would be most appreciated," concluded Brown.
On Nov. 18, 1996, Enron CEO Ken Lay announced that the deal with Suharto was complete. According to Enron's public statement, the U.S.-led energy company had finally won the East Java Power project.
Corruption, Collusion and Nepotism
Yet the Enron success was clouded by allegations that the power plant deals were filled with kickbacks for the Suharto family. In October 1998, U.S. Ambassador J. Stapleton Roy wrote a diplomatic cable that he had recently met with Indonesian Director General of Electricity Endro Utomo Notodisoerjo.
"Commenting on corruption, collusion and nepotism (KKN), Endro said that in the past there was no separation between 'power' (not electric but former first family power) and business. 'All the IPP's (Independent Power Projects) have a relation with power, and it is still going on,' added Endro."
According to State Department documents, Enron signed on to a deal filled with "corruption, collusion and nepotism." One State Department cable included an entire section titled "Dealing with unwanted partners" that detailed corruption inside the two Enron power plants at East Kalimantan and East Java.
"Unocal executives told resources officer that the firm is close to reaching a deal with its partner, PT Nusamba (controlled by former President Soeharto crony Bob Hasan) to sever ties in two production sharing contracts (PSC) in East Kalimantan and East Java," notes the State Department cable.
Eventually, the Indonesian economy collapsed and Suharto was overthrown. The resulting economic mess forced Indonesia to default on its payments for the Enron power plants. The U.S. taxpayer using its insurance, however, paid off Enron. One such policy for Enron was obtained through the World Bank Multilateral Investment Guarantee Agency or MIGA.
"In June of this year, MIGA paid $15 million to Enron Java Power Co. for its investment in P.T. East Java Power Corporation in Indonesia," states the 2000 official public release from the World Bank.
"The venture was one of many suspended by the presidential decree of September 20, 1997, issued in response to the country's economic crisis," noted MIGA officials.
26 posted on
04/03/2004 1:58:19 PM PST by
kcvl
To: wagglebee
bump
30 posted on
04/03/2004 2:54:38 PM PST by
Yaelle
To: wagglebee
"His favorite Scripture verse was that wonderful verse from Isaiah," said Clinton of Brown. "They who wait upon the Lord shall have their strength renewed. They shall mount up with wings as eagles. They will run and not grow weary. They will walk and faint not."
I'm not so sure that was his only favoured quotation was from Isiah :
Ezekiel 25:17 et seq
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
31 posted on
04/03/2004 3:17:11 PM PST by
archy
(The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
To: wagglebee; All
Please refresh my memory...just who was investigating Ron Brown??? It certainly wasn't the Justice Department...Reno pretty much had that bottled up pretty tight!
35 posted on
04/03/2004 5:26:53 PM PST by
Lael
(Patent Law...not a single Supreme Court Justice is qualified to take the PTO Bar Exam!)
To: wagglebee
Wasn't there a survivor on the plane crash--the woman on the stretcher?
43 posted on
04/10/2004 12:31:37 PM PDT by
WhiteyAppleseed
(Martian evironmentalists want to destroy Earth because it intefers with their view of Venus.)
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