Spain Confirms Matchup of Bomb Materials (Railway Bombs)

My Way ^ | 4/03/04 | AP

[freeangel]

So sad, too bad--Spain loses!

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Raya Amarillo.

[VRWC_minion]

Halliburtin did it of course.

[Agnes Heep]

"The explosives are the same as those used on March 11, but at this moment the investigation is continuing ... to try to determine who is behind it," Acebes told reporters in Madrid.

Hard to capitulate if you don't know who you're capitulating to.

[Tallguy]

Socialists in Spain need to cover themselves in burial shrouds & walk in an orderly manner to the nearest cemetery. Burial is the only thing left for them.

[hosepipe]

Ah!.. SPAIN!... (Eddie Murphy laugh)

[pending]

That would be a good twist.
I am just expecting the Spanish socialists to spin and twist this somehow.

Hopefully in the long run the Spanish people, and other thoughtful and cautious observers towards more of a hard line for the future. Common sense should eventually prevail, right?

I do not understand the lack of willingness to fight these guys on the left.

Everywhere they protest and scream about petty little things in the west. "the word "God" in any public postion for example.

Then they completely overlooking the lack of freedom and rights, abysmal treatment of women, and finally accept children blowing themselves into little pieces in the name of "God".

"cultural diversity".

I do think there is a desire for "good" an the left, there is a conscience, a desire to make things better. What I am trying to figure out is why this translates to a kind of self-loathing as America -loathing, you know?

[Thom Pain]

"Well, I guess it's time for new leadership. This party's policies failed Spain. Bombs are now being put in place for another attack. Perhaps Spain Andalucia should promise to disarm their military. I'm sure that would work. Sniker."

"Andalucia's history is the opposite from the rest of Western Europe in that the Renaissance preceded the dark ages, not the other way around. From about 800-1500 A.D. an Islamic sect ejected from Syria brought learning, tolerance, and high arts to southern Spain, which thrived economically throughout much of the time when the rest of Europe was mired in poverty and brutal intolerance of new ideas. That's not to say that the Islamic rulers welcomed the Jews and Catholics into the culture. Indeed, apartheid ruled. The nonIslamic peoples were heavily taxed and segregated into crowded quarters. Periods of severe intolernace flared from time to time. On the other hand, Islamic law considered Jews and Christians the children ofIslam, and they were protected from genocide - when rulers respected the law. A good source of history is ashort book, "Moorish Spain", by Richard Fletcher ISBN 0-520-08496-9."

http://balick.home.sprynet.com/andalucia.html

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

[VRWCTexan]

Right on target!

It's correct that they want to convert the whole world to Islam (and by force at that!)....we in the West need to recall early world history (11 - 14th century) where Islam swept much of the known world (and controlled most of Spain) thru the power of the sword.

[EternalHope]

It's hard to feel sympathy for a coward who has just abandoned you in a fight.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

[W]e in the West need to recall early world history (11 - 14th century) where Islam swept much of the known world (and controlled most of Spain) thru the power of the sword.

I work at a large defense contractor near Boston. In 2001 we had "Diversity Week" at work. You got an opportunity to have goat curry in the cafeteria, if so inclined and among other delights, a gentleman of Pakistani birth did a lunchtime presentation on Islam. Being intellectually curious and, I flatter myself to think, open-minded, I attended. The thesis of his presentation, at the bottom, was that the current ascendency of the West was an historical anomoly and that in the future - perhaps the very near future - Islam would be ascendent once again. I quietly left during the early part of the Q&A.

I found the presentation childish, insulting, historically ignorant and just plain boneheaded and said as much privately to others who had attended. They could not bring themselves to agree. (The presenter was an obnoxious and persistent type, not the kind of person you'd want to get in an arguement with over something where you might have a chance to make a difference, like a technical point. I knew there was absolutely no chance that I could influence his bigoted and closed mind.)

A few monthes later, when 9-11 happened and four people from our company and a several people from my small town (One of them had a kindergartener daughter in the school where my wife teaches.) rode to their deaths in the cause the advancing worldwide Islam, I couldn't help looking daggers at him whenever I encountered him.

[traumer]

more info on:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3596455.stm

[finnman69]

Spain will now have to withdraw from Spain.

LOL

[ryanjb2]

"From about 800-1500 A.D. an Islamic sect ejected from Syria brought learning, tolerance, and high arts to southern Spain"

Actually, Islamic Spain was ruled by North African's (Almohads) from about 1100 AD till the place fell. They were not entirely tolerant people. The Christians of Spain didn't keep the Reconquista going for that long for nothing.

There almost nothing the Muslims brought to Spain that didn't exist in the Greek/Roman/Persian world before the Arab conquest of the Middle East. When the Arabs conquered the Middle East in the 600's AD, they found a rich, technologically advanced, populated, and relatively peaceful Middle East. Western Europe was being attacked on three fronts, Arabs from the South, Vikings from the North, and Asiatics from the East.

[DoughtyOne]

Thanks for the suggested reading. Nice comments...

[DoughtyOne]

In my opinion this push toward diversity is designed for only one thing, it's to splinter our cohesive nature and make us vulnerable.

The push to make every language of the world our own, instead of one language does just that. The push to have multiple ethnicities going at each others throats at city council meetings across the nation, is just that.

I am convinced that some master plan is being implemented to take down the nation the only way it could be, from within.

Our leaders have a lot of splainin to do.

[Iberian]

Spain has ruled the world, HAVE we???

[Iberian]

Spain kept from speaking Arabic for almost 2000 years.

Godspeed