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A Sierra umbrella? - Conservancy proposed to protect mountain range
The Union ^ | April 2, 2004 | Jamie Bate

Posted on 04/03/2004 3:32:33 AM PST by calcowgirl


Two bills making their way through the California Assembly would create a Sierra Nevada Conservancy. If passed, the conservancy would direct money to help manage the public lands in the mountain range.

The Union photo/Pico van Houtryve

It spans nearly 500 miles, supplies the water that nourishes California’s economy and has provided vocations and vacations for generations, but the Sierra Nevada has no benefactor like the conservancies that care for Lake Tahoe or the state’s vast coastline.

That could change this year, however, if one of the two bills now winding through the Legislature is approved - or if the two morph into one. The bills, AB 2600, authored by a Democrat, and the Republican-drafted AB 1788, would create a Sierra Nevada Conservancy.

The conservancy’s nonregulatory board would coordinate the millions of dollars that flow into the mountain range each year from various sources for a variety of conservation uses. Essentially, it could serve as a clearinghouse for the money, which would go toward the most-needy areas instead of being scattered.

“The Sierra is something that cries out for a conservancy,” said John Laird, a Democrat assemblyman from the central coast who authored AB 2600.

Laird, chairman of the Assembly Select Committee on California Water Needs and Climate Change, said the 28-year-old California Coastal Conservancy has served the region - and the state - well. The Sierra, he said, could use the same help.

“A Sierra Conservancy will give people in the Sierra a seat at the table,” he said. “I think the model of the Coastal Conservancy has worked very, very well.”

Unlike the California Coastal Commission, which regulates land use and issues development permits, the nonregulatory Coastal Conservancy works as an intermediary among local governments, public agencies, nonprofit groups and private landowners to purchase, protect, restore and enhance coastal resources.

Republicans seek bigger role for locals

The Lake Tahoe Conservancy is in Republican Assemblyman Tim Leslie’s district. And while he has supported its efforts over the years, including raising thousands of dollars for environmental projects by supporting the Lake Tahoe license plate program, Leslie’s chief of staff, Jedd Medefind, said his boss is generally hesitant when it comes to creating such entities.

“He had to decide to oppose it on principal or get involved to make things better,” Medefind said about why Leslie brought AB 1788 forward.

Surprisingly, Leslie’s involvement was spurred by none other than the state’s top Republican, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. It may have rankled some of his fellow Republicans, but Schwarzenegger’s environmental action plan pledges to create a Sierra Nevada Conservancy.

“I think this is a case where the governor is showing his independent streak,” Medefind said.

Given that the Legislature is controlled by Democrats, the Republicans are drawing up another version of the conservancy plan. While the two bills differ on the boundaries of the proposed conservancy, the biggest differences are the makeup of its governing board and exactly what kind of input local governments will have.

Laird’s bill would have the conservancy’s seven-member board consult with local agencies on proposed projects. Leslie’s proposal has a 20-member board, including two county supervisors from each of the conservancy’s five subregions.

“At this point, we’re working to convince the Schwarzenegger administration that a form of conservancy that cuts locals out of the decision process is unacceptable,” Medefind said.

Conservancy control issues

The Sierra Fund, a Nevada City-based foundation that links donors with conservation projects, is a main proponent of a conservancy for the mountain range and is supporting Laird’s bill. But Izzy Martin, the fund’s Sierra Nevada campaign director and former Nevada County supervisor, said that to increase the chances that the conservancy proposal passes, there is hope that the two bills will become one.

Still, how the issues of local control versus regional and state priorities play out will be key.

The last effort to create a conservancy for the Sierra was derailed two years ago. Although it sailed through the Assembly, it never made it to the Senate floor for a vote. What scuttled the bill were differences on the makeup of the governing board and whether individual counties and towns could opt in or out of the conservancy.

“The more pertinent argument is that already, hundreds of millions of dollars are being spent in the region, and the Sierra doesn’t have a say,” Martin said. “There is no defined, formal role for where the money is being spent.”

Despite Assemblyman Leslie’s aversion to conservancies, Medefind agreed that one could help tackle some of the issues facing the Sierra, like forest and watershed health.

“It conceivably could become an excellent forum to address serious issues,” he said.

Staff from Leslie and Laird’s offices have been in communication on the two bills, and it’s “definitely conceivable” that the bills could come together, Medefind said.

Because the conservancy idea is something Schwarzenneger is behind, Laird agreed that bipartisan support might be easier to come by this time around.

AB 2600 is expected to be heard in the Assembly Natural Resources Committee by April 19.


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KEYWORDS: ab1788; ab2600; calgov2002; conservancy; environment; johnlaird; propertyrights; rfkjr; sierraconservancy; sierranevada; socialistagenda; timleslie; water
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To: calcowgirl; sfwarrior; Carry_Okie; marsh2; farmfriend
There was a report late last week about the Governor and CA first lady being "A Team" that I saw on local Sacramento TV and heard Michael Savage comment on as well. I can't find anything on the web to link/post about it, but she's quoted as making it sound more and more like a "Co-Governorship!"

Arnold keeps making the oxymoronic comment that in essence trys to say there's no reason EnvironMentalism and the Business Environment cannot coexist in this state. If he was as enamoured with Carry_Okie's formula for this, I might agree!!!

However, he's more enamoured with Robert Kennedy, Jr's extreme views from the NRDC and that's what's driving desperately dumb stuff like this Sierra-Nevada Conservacancy!!!

I talked with someone from the El Dorado County Taxpayers Assn., yesterday and there are further changes on the Leslie bill, including better definitions of the western boundry. Keep sfwarrior apprised (farmfriend and calcowgirl) as much as you can, as he has expressed some interest in this story.

It sure would be nice for news coverage from other than a couple rural newspapers to get this on the radar screen somewhere!!!

61 posted on 05/03/2004 7:45:24 AM PDT by SierraWasp (What's the Magnitude and the Amplitude or your Attitude of Gratitude... Dude? USA! USA! USA!!!)
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To: SierraWasp; calcowgirl; sfwarrior; Carry_Okie; marsh2
AB 2600 is showing a hearing date of May 5th. This would be a hearing in the committee.
62 posted on 05/03/2004 6:15:58 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: farmfriend
Thank you! Can you find and post the current, up-dated, revised version of either or both bills? I'm trying to have discussions with people about 'em and I'm not nearly as swift as you at collecting and posting these poopy things!!!
63 posted on 05/03/2004 6:28:21 PM PDT by SierraWasp (What's the Magnitude and the Amplitude or your Attitude of Gratitude... Dude? USA! USA! USA!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
Thanks for the update Farmfriend

SW: Here's a link to the language as amended April 13 from Leg Info
64 posted on 05/03/2004 6:53:14 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl; marsh2; sfwarrior; farmfriend
Wholey schmidt!!! Look what Laird has done!!! He's added another mountain range in with the Sierra-Nevada range!!! I wonder if he's gonna try to include Oregone's Cascade mountains, as well?

"(f) "Region" or "Sierra Nevada Region" means the Sierra Nevada-Cascade Mountain Region, as described in subdivision (e) of Section 5096.347,..."

Looks like Conservancy CREEP, to me!!! Hey Marsh2... It's comin your way! Are you gonna agendize this turkey like a couple of other counties have done? Then vote it down to send an unmistakeable message? Plumas County and I think one other has already. (both bills, by the way)

I stopped when I got to this. Now I gotta go back and see if Leslie's revised bill was there as well.

65 posted on 05/03/2004 7:09:06 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Two... Four... Six... Eight... We don't wanna mitigate!!! GovernMental EnvironMentals are insatiable)
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To: SierraWasp
AB2600:

(f) "Region" or "Sierra Nevada Region" means the Sierra
Nevada-Cascade Mountain Region, as described in subdivision (e) of 
Section 5096.347, excluding both of the following:
   (1) The Lake Tahoe Region, as described in Section 66905.5 of the
Government Code, where it is defined as "region."
   (2) The San Joaquin River Parkway, as described in Section 32510.
-------------
PUBLIC RESOURCES CODE 
SECTION 5096.347 

(e) For the purposes of this article, the Sierra Nevada-Cascade
Mountain Region includes those portions of Fresno County, Kern
County, Stanislaus County, and Tulare County, and counties with
populations of less than 250,000 as of the 1990 United States Census,
that are located in the mountains, the foothills, and the area
adjacent to the geologic formations of the Sierra Nevada and Cascade
mountain ranges.

66 posted on 05/03/2004 7:28:53 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: SierraWasp
AB 1788, as amended, Leslie.  Sierra Nevada Conservancy.
   Existing law establishes various conservancies to acquire, manage,
and direct the management of, and conserve public lands in the
state.
   This bill would establish the Sierra Nevada Conservancy to acquire
and direct the management of public lands within the Core Sierra
Nevada Region, as defined, and would prescribe the membership,
powers, and duties of the conservancy.  
*snip*
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(c) "Core Sierra Nevada Region" means the area bounded on the
south by State Route 58 and Tehachapi Creek; on the west by an
elevation of 1500 feet above sea level; on the north by the northern
perimeters of the Manton/Battle Creek, Feather River, Eagle Lake, and
Honey Lake watersheds; and on the east by the eastern boundary of
the State of California, State Route 395, and State Route 14 south of
Olancha; but excludes both of the following:
   (1) The Lake Tahoe Region as defined in Section 66905.5 of the
Government Code.
   (2) The San Joaquin River Parkway as described in Section 32510.

67 posted on 05/03/2004 7:38:42 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
This is from the analysis of AB 1788 (Leslie)

3)Comparison with AB 2600 (Laird)
           
          AB 1788 (Leslie) is being heard in the Assembly Natural  
            Resources Committee at the same time as AB 2600 (Laird), which  
            also proposes to create a Sierra Nevada Conservancy.  AB 1788  
            differs from AB 2600 in the following principal respects:

             a)   The region defined in AB 1788 includes large portions of  
               the Central Valley and, in Tehama, Fresno, and Kern  
               Counties, it extends entirely across the valley into the  
               Coast Range.  By contrast, the western boundary of the  
               region defined in AB 2600 stops at about the 500-foot  
               elevation contour and includes only small portions of the  
               extreme eastern edge of the valley floor.  The core region  
               defined in AB 1788, where presumably the Conservancy's  
               activities will be concentrated, is significantly smaller  
               than the region defined in AB 2600.  In particular, because  
               AB 1788 uses the 1,500-foot elevation contour as the  
               western boundary of the core region, long reaches of the  
               deep canyons of the principal rivers of the Sierra and many  
               lakes and reservoirs situated below that elevation are  
               excluded from the core region.

             b)   On the governing board proposed in AB 1788, 13 of the 20  
               voting members are supervisors from Sierra counties or  
               residents of the core region.  On the governing board  
               proposed in AB 2600, two members are state officials and  
               five are appointees from the general public.  The  
               difference in composition can in part be attributed to  
               whether the Conservancy is perceived as having regional or  
               statewide significance.

             c)   AB 1788 requires that the Conservancy's executive  
               director be approved by at least 2/3 of the governing  
               board, that is, by 14 of the 20 voting members.  AB 2600  
               specifies a simple majority.

             d)   AB 1788 prohibits the Conservancy from acquiring any  
               property interest or making a grant for that purpose unless  
               the governing body of the city or county with jurisdiction  
               over the affected property acts affirmatively to adopt a  
               resolution supporting the acquisition.  This provision is  
               not found in any of the existing conservancy laws, with the  
               exception that the Coachella Valley Mountains Conservancy  
               may exercise eminent domain through the State Public Works  
               Board if the affected local government does not object  
               after receiving notice. Such a restriction is inconsistent  
               with the role of a conservancy in coordinating the efforts  
               of diverse public agencies toward common conservation  
               objectives.  Further, it is anomalous to subject the  
               operations of a state agency to approval by a local  
               government.  AB 2600 has no comparable provision.

             e)   AB 1788 prohibits the Conservancy from acquiring any  
               property interest or making a grant for that purpose unless  
               it documents the proposed use, management, and financing of  
               management costs of the acquired property.  Somewhat  
               inconsistently, AB 1788 makes Conservancy projects and  
               grants subject to all general and specific plans of local  
               governments, which would not necessarily anticipate the  
               management needs of the property to be acquired.  AB 2600  
               instead requires the Conservancy to cooperate and consult  
               with affected local governments and to base its project  
               priorities on local general plans and recreation plans.

             f)   AB 1788 has detailed provisions, based on the San  
               Gabriel and Lower Los Angeles Rivers and Mountains  
               Conservancy's statute, governing water management and water  
               rights.  AB 2600 has no comparable provisions.

             g)   AB 1788 authorizes the Resources Secretary to resolve  
               any dispute over jurisdiction between the Conservancy and  
               other conservancies.  AB 2600 has no comparable provision.

             h)   AB 1788 provides that it will not become operative until  
               the Legislature appropriates funds to the Conservancy to  
               carry out the bill or until a bond act is approved that  
               includes an allocation of funds for the purposes of this  
               bill.  AB 2600, if enacted, will take effect on January 1,  
               2005.  Also, AB 2600 appropriates to the Resources  
               Secretary the $30,000,000 previously allocated by  
               Proposition 50 for grants to local public agencies, water  
               districts, and nonprofit organizations to protect water  
               quality in lakes, reservoirs, rivers, streams, and wetlands  
               in the Sierra Nevada - Cascade Mountain Region.

4)Technical amendment  

          The boundary of the Core Sierra Nevada Region is described in a  
            way that it traverses the southeastern corner of Shasta  
            County, but Shasta County is not part of the more expansive  
            Sierra Nevada Region.  Elsewhere, the core region is always  
            described as being within the more expansive Sierra Nevada  
            Region.  The committee may wish to consider amendments that  
            add Shasta County to the counties comprising the Sierra Nevada  
            Region and the north Sierra subregion, as follows:

               On page 3, line 13, after "Plumas," insert:  Shasta,

               On page 3, line 23, after "Plumas," insert:  Shasta,

68 posted on 05/03/2004 7:45:31 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
"on the west by an elevation of 1500 feet above sea level"

Oh my gawd... they got me right on the line!!! My leech field ain't in it, but my dad gummed house is in it!!!

I wunder if'n I cud git wunna them there howse muvers, then wunna them there urth movers an peel ma ridgeline down a foot, then muv ma howse back onna nu foundayshun???

Wholey Cripe! These peephole gots too much time on der hans!!! We've gone frum "The Peepole's Park" in Berserkeley rite up the danged line, to this here!!! Buncha fricken Commonist Hippies!!!

69 posted on 05/03/2004 8:51:59 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Two... Four... Six... Eight... We don't wanna mitigate!!! GovernMental EnvironMentals are insatiable)
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To: calcowgirl
I hope these Eviro-Dorks git analysis paralysis from their affluenza!!!
70 posted on 05/03/2004 9:03:18 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Two... Four... Six... Eight... We don't wanna mitigate!!! GovernMental EnvironMentals are insatiable)
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To: SierraWasp; forester; farmfriend
I got this email update... hearing today?
CURRENT BILL STATUS

MEASURE	:  A.B. No. 1788
AUTHOR(S)	:  Leslie.
TOPIC	:  Sierra Nevada Conservancy.
HOUSE LOCATION	:  ASM
+LAST AMENDED DATE  :  04/22/2004


TYPE OF BILL :  
                Active
                Non-Urgency
                Non-Appropriations
                Majority Vote Required
                State-Mandated Local Program
                Fiscal
                Non-Tax Levy

LAST HIST. ACT. DATE:  04/26/2004
LAST HIST. ACTION   :  Re-referred to Com. on  APPR.
COMM. LOCATION	:  ASM APPROPRIATIONS
HEARING DATE	:  05/12/2004

TITLE	:  An act to add Division 23.3 (commencing with
Section 33300) to the Public Resources Code, relating to the
	Sierra Nevada Conservancy.

71 posted on 05/12/2004 9:20:39 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
TYPE OF BILL : Active... Non-Urgency... Non-Appropriations... Majority Vote Required... State-Mandated Local Program... Fiscal... Non-Tax Levy...
72 posted on 05/12/2004 9:51:03 AM PDT by SierraWasp (Bulletin To All Terrorists: If at first you don't succeed... GIVE UP!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
These short status clips never make sense to me.

If there are no appropriations, why does it go to an Appropriations Committee?
Oh... I get it. It's not a tax... it's a levy.

ARGGGHHH!
73 posted on 05/12/2004 10:18:05 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
Posting the other bill status from the other thread that FF posted:
CURRENT BILL STATUS

MEASURE	:  A.B. No. 2600
AUTHOR(S)	:  Laird.
TOPIC	:  Sierra Nevada Conservancy.
HOUSE LOCATION	:  ASM
+LAST AMENDED DATE  :  04/13/2004

TYPE OF BILL :  
                Active
                Non-Urgency
                Appropriations
                Majority Vote Required
                Non-State-Mandated Local Program
                Fiscal
                Non-Tax Levy

LAST HIST. ACT. DATE:  05/05/2004
LAST HIST. ACTION   :  In committee:  Set, first hearing. 
                          Referred to APPR. suspense file.
COMM. LOCATION	:  ASM APPROPRIATIONS

TITLE	:  An act to add Division 23.3 (commencing with Section
	33300) to the Public Resources Code, relating to the
	Sierra Nevada Conservancy, and making an appropriation
	therefor.



74 posted on 05/12/2004 10:22:21 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; forester
Hopefully this one will go to the suspense file as well. There is one Carry told me about that I need to double check on.
75 posted on 05/12/2004 12:48:11 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: farmfriend
Reminds me of my childhood, listening to the old radio program entitled: "Suspense!"

The intro would end up with the announcer saying: "Well calculated, to keep you in... SUSPENSE!"

76 posted on 05/12/2004 1:07:22 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Looks like all the 9-11 flag waving has reverted to FLAG WAIVING by the Kerrys & Kennedys!!!)
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To: calcowgirl; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; forester; sasquatch; marsh2; B4Ranch
	CURRENT BILL STATUS


MEASURE	:  A.B. No. 2631
AUTHOR(S)	:  Wolk.
TOPIC	:  Natural resources:  invasive species.
HOUSE LOCATION	:  ASM
+LAST AMENDED DATE  :  05/06/2004


TYPE OF BILL :  
                Active
                Non-Urgency
                Non-Appropriations
                Majority Vote Required
                Non-State-Mandated Local Program
                Fiscal
                Non-Tax Levy

LAST HIST. ACT. DATE:  05/10/2004
LAST HIST. ACTION   :  Re-referred to Com. on  APPR.
COMM. LOCATION	:  ASM APPROPRIATIONS

TITLE	:  An act to add Division 37 (commencing with Section
	71500) to the Public Resources Code, relating to natural
	resources.



77 posted on 05/12/2004 1:15:46 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: farmfriend
I forget. What's this invasive species bill going to do for us? Stomp out starthistle? What?
78 posted on 05/12/2004 3:39:13 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Looks like all the 9-11 flag waving has reverted to FLAG WAIVING by the Kerrys & Kennedys!!!)
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To: farmfriend; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; forester
Farmfriend... More emails this morning; how do I read these?
AB 2600 Status
AB 1788 Status
They say suspense... but also show future hearings.
Good news or bad? Or wait and see?

CURRENT BILL STATUS

MEASURE	:    A.B. No. 1788
AUTHOR(S):   Leslie.
TOPIC	:    Sierra Nevada Conservancy.
HOUSE LOCATION	:  ASM
+LAST AMENDED DATE  :  04/22/2004

TYPE OF BILL :  
                Active
                Non-Urgency
                Non-Appropriations
                Majority Vote Required
                State-Mandated Local Program
                Fiscal
                Non-Tax Levy

LAST HIST. ACT. DATE:  05/12/2004
LAST HIST. ACTION   :  In committee:  Set, first hearing.  
                       Referred to APPR.
	suspense file.
COMM. LOCATION	:  ASM APPROPRIATIONS
HEARING DATE	:  05/19/2004

TITLE	:  An act to add Division 23.3 (commencing with Section
	33300) to the Public Resources Code, relating to the
	Sierra Nevada Conservancy.
------------------------------------------

CURRENT BILL STATUS

MEASURE	:     A.B. No. 2600
AUTHOR(S):    Laird.
TOPIC	:  Sierra Nevada Conservancy.
HOUSE LOCATION	:  ASM
+LAST AMENDED DATE  :  04/13/2004

TYPE OF BILL :  
                Active
                Non-Urgency
                Appropriations
                Majority Vote Required
                Non-State-Mandated Local Program
                Fiscal
                Non-Tax Levy

LAST HIST. ACT. DATE:  05/05/2004
LAST HIST. ACTION   :  In committee:  Set, first hearing.  
                       Referred to APPR.
	suspense file.
COMM. LOCATION	:  ASM APPROPRIATIONS
HEARING DATE	:  05/19/2004

TITLE	:  An act to add Division 23.3 (commencing with Section
	33300) to the Public Resources Code, relating to the
	Sierra Nevada Conservancy, and making an appropriation
	therefor.


79 posted on 05/14/2004 8:10:54 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl; Carry_Okie; farmfriend; SierraWasp; sasquatch; hedgetrimmer; Grampa Dave; ...
HEADS UP ALERT

Hey cowgirl, looks like both bills will be heard in the appropriations committee on wensday, May 19. I have been to these appropriation committee hearings...they are a joke. People like Burton tell jokes and ignore the public input...it is corrupt, wrong, and anti-American to say the least. Think RUBBER STAMP!!!

80 posted on 05/14/2004 9:41:29 PM PDT by forester ( An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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