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I'm not sure if this view from Stratfor's Dr George Friedman has been posted on Free Republic before.

This is getting press coverage in Australia because he is currently here on a business trip.

1 posted on 04/03/2004 1:55:34 AM PST by Piefloater
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2 posted on 04/03/2004 1:57:40 AM PST by Support Free Republic (I'd rather be sleeping. Let's get this over with so I can go back to sleep!)
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To: Piefloater
A side reason, is that Mideast oil is the cheapest to produce. Gain influence/control over this production and use it to moderate/influence the cost of oil overall. Much of the other sources of oil are more expensive to produce. Who would you rather have this "influence"? Hmmm
3 posted on 04/03/2004 2:08:27 AM PST by Waco
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To: Piefloater
Good Lord! How about because we were already there patrolling the No Fly Zone and getting shot at every other day?
5 posted on 04/03/2004 2:45:24 AM PST by Solamente
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To: Piefloater
Am I going crazy? The issue was NEVER about WMD but that inspectors weren't allowed free reign.
Is everybody stupid?
8 posted on 04/03/2004 3:02:22 AM PST by dyed_in_the_wool ("Like a patient etherised upon a table" -- TSE)
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To: Piefloater
Dr Friedman said US President George W Bush faced the difficulty of explaining this policy, particularly to the Saudis. Moves to link Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda failed completely.

Really?

12 posted on 04/03/2004 3:52:03 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Piefloater
It makes no difference to me, "why" we are over there. As far as, I am concerned it would make me happy, if we invade all of te countries over there.

They are all full of cowardly terrorists. People that strap bombs on their children, are nothing more than cowards themselves.

They all hate us, so they all must be exterminated.

18 posted on 04/03/2004 4:58:54 AM PST by auggy (http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-DownhomeKY /// Check out My USA Photo album & Fat Files)
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To: Piefloater
read later
20 posted on 04/03/2004 5:05:54 AM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Piefloater
Thanks for your post.

This is the closest thing to reason that I've seen or heard since 9/11.

22 posted on 04/03/2004 5:52:01 AM PST by iconoclast
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To: Piefloater
quoted, clipped:

"Saudi Arabia,,, believed in its heart of hearts"

Huh?

What is a "heart of hearts"? Kinda like an ace of spades, maybe? (I do know it is an American colloquialism for 'soul')

And, no matter what it is, do they even have a "heart of hearts"????

I think that what they have is the ace of spades, which is lots of crude.
23 posted on 04/03/2004 5:54:56 AM PST by RonHolzwarth
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To: Piefloater
This is all fine and dandy and was, no doubt, a part of the decision. The fact is there WERE and probably still ARE WMDs, Saddam DID ignore the UN resolutions, Saddam DID threaten his neighbors, Saddam DID fire on our planes protecting the no fly zones, Saddam DID provide funds to terrorists, Saddam DID provide shelter to terrorists.

As to the rest of the theory, you'd have to have an IQ of under 2 not to figure that one out. Of course Iraq is of strategic importance to the war on terror. Of course Iraq is the best place to begin to drain the swamp, the dimmness of these so called experts is amazing. The people of FR figured all this out long ago. It was never just one issue, it was all of them together.

28 posted on 04/03/2004 9:06:23 AM PST by McGavin999 (Expecting others to pay for your enjoyment of FreeRepublic is socialism: Donate now!)
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To: Piefloater
S Arabia 'real reason for war'

If I remember correctly, S.A. lowered the price of oil significantly days before we went into Iraq.

If S.A. is the "real reason" for the war, then why did they do that?

30 posted on 04/03/2004 10:02:10 AM PST by FreeReign
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Dr George Friedman, chairman of the United States private sector intelligence company Stratfor, said the US had settled on WMD as a simple justification for the war and one which it expected the public would readily accept.

Dr Friedman, in Australia on a business trip, said the US administration never wanted to explain the complex reasons for invading Iraq, keeping them from both the public and their closest supporters.

"That, primarily, was the fact that Saudi Arabia was facilitating the transfer of funds to al-Qaeda, was refusing to cooperate with the US and believed in its heart of hearts that the US would never take any action against them," he said.

OUTSTANDING perceptive ANALYSIS, right on the mark. The Saudi Royals are sponsporing the radical Islamic fundamentalist sect, Wahhabism, the madrassas in Pakistan, the "Talabombed" in Afghanistan and funneling funds to Al Qaeda (the terrorist wing of the Saudi government). U.S. occupied Iraq is like a safe harbor for when the Islamic extremist Jihadis finally overthrow the Saudi Royals who are not our allies in the first place. The Saudi Royals are riding the tiger of terrorism which they have created for themselves. Sure, Iraq had the butcher of Baghdad (Good riddance) and his two barbarian sons (especially Uday) but the real reason for liberating Iraq is because of Saudi Arabia.

Ever wonder why the nation of Qatar allowed the U.S. to have a base of operations within Qatar. Ans: The Saudis tried to assassinate around 1996 the Ruler of Qatar, Sheikh Hamad bin Kalifa Al-Thani with (get this) French mercenaries who screwed up (thankfully the "Cluseauites" botched the job) because the Ruler or Emir of Qatar was too "progressive" and forward thinking ("may Allah forbid" according to the Saudis) allowing Qatari women to drive autos and vote, bring modernity to the country etc. Qatar is a country with a future (an ally of the U.S.) while Saudi Arabia is a future fundamentalist Islamic ghetto.

The author of the article, Dr. George Friedman knows what he is talking about.

I have personally lived and worked in Saudi Arabia and Qatar and have an idea of what is going on in the Middle East.

31 posted on 04/03/2004 10:06:02 AM PST by Mel Gibson (Suffer from Allergies, Asthma or Adversely Affected by Foul Air ? See "About Me")
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To: Piefloater
But the Saudi government variously took the view that this wasn't true or that they lacked the ability and strength to act, he said.

IMO, both Abdullah and the president knew that S.A. didn't have the strength to act. That was back in the summer of 2002. That's what was talked about at the two Crawford meetings.

So we agreed to go after two traditional enemies of Abdullah. Saddam and of course al Qaeda -- which we were doing anyway. Also, we agreed to remove our troops from S.A., a point of weakness to Abdullah and we also agreed to try a so-called road-map with Israel and the Pali's.

Anyway, a year after the meetings, in 2003, al Qaeda was significantly weakened, Saddam was in his hiddy-hole and our troops were removed from S.A.

Anyway with all of this done late in 2003, Abdullah became strong enough to act -- and it appears that he is acting.

32 posted on 04/03/2004 10:16:18 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Piefloater
What Friedman was saying last June;

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35 posted on 04/03/2004 10:50:17 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Cap Huff
Ping.
38 posted on 04/03/2004 3:30:47 PM PST by Valin (Hating people is like burning down your house to kill a rat)
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To: Piefloater
The sun never sets on the American empire.


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41 posted on 04/04/2004 6:48:14 AM PDT by tm22721 (May the UN rest in peace)
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