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To: Lurking Libertarian
The issue is not that an extra joint in the bone of a fish is actual evidence that it had a desire to crawl onto land ....
But rather that a paradigm of thought desires to extract tidbits of evidence to refute the existance of God.
Once a person examines the facts objectively and not extrapolating out to a vague extreme, then real science may have a chance to find answers.
How does the theorist not know that it is not a mutation ?
After all the species became extinct. There are many hazards to life even in the more stable present era. Radiation, harmful gasses from volcanic activity , for instance cyanide.
So lets just cut the bull and get right to the point.
Random chaos or God ?
I choose God.
you choose random chaos.
Debate over , you lose.
113 posted on 04/02/2004 10:59:11 PM PST by Freesofar
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To: Freesofar
Debate over , you lose.

This is an interesting debtate tactic. Declare victory outright, without stating any facts or refuting your opponent's points.

Not a particularly honest tactic, but at least it does not require someone of great intelligence to see the intellectual bankruptcy of your "debate" technique.
127 posted on 04/03/2004 12:12:55 AM PST by Dimensio (I gave you LIFE! I -- AAAAAAAAH!)
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To: Freesofar
The issue is not that an extra joint in the bone of a fish is actual evidence that it had a desire to crawl onto land ....

Correct, because evolution is not about "desires".

But rather that a paradigm of thought desires to extract tidbits of evidence to refute the existance of God.

Wrong. And how does your tidy little misconception deal with the existence of all those countless Christian evolutionists?

Once a person examines the facts objectively and not extrapolating out to a vague extreme, then real science may have a chance to find answers.

That's exactly how science has arrived at evolution. Thanks for your support.

How does the theorist not know that it is not a mutation ? After all the species became extinct.

Could we have that again in the form of a coherent thought?

There are many hazards to life even in the more stable present era. Radiation, harmful gasses from volcanic activity , for instance cyanide.

So?

So lets just cut the bull and get right to the point. Random chaos or God ?

Thanks for a wonderful example of the "fallacy of false dichotomy". There are many more possibilities than just those two, son. And evolution is not "random chaos" -- try to learn something about it before you attempt to critique it.

I choose God.

Feel free.

you choose random chaos.

No I don't.

Debate over , you lose.

How old are you, twelve?

132 posted on 04/03/2004 4:00:41 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Freesofar
Once a person examines the facts objectively and not extrapolating out to a vague extreme, then real science may have a chance to find answers.

What could possibly be more VAGUE and EXTREME than this "God" I keep hearing about?

Do you claim God is not "extreme?" Because all I hear about is how he's all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving, master of all life. Even more so than those guys in the Mountain Dew commercials. I mean, he's EXTREME.

And would you claim that "God" isn't vague? I mean, if you can give me an EXACT, NOT-AT-ALL VAGUE description of God that pins Him down exactly, I'd love to hear it.

232 posted on 04/03/2004 2:15:30 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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