Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


1 posted on 04/02/2004 3:05:55 PM PST by teldon30
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-26 next last
To: teldon30
Sour grapes.
2 posted on 04/02/2004 3:12:17 PM PST by Lorianne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: teldon30; hellinahandcart; Lil'freeper; NYC GOP Chick; cyborg; countrydummy; AnnaZ; Mercuria; ...
"Men are happy for men to be men and women to be women; women want us all to be women."

This essay hits it on the mark. 'Pod

3 posted on 04/02/2004 3:12:46 PM PST by sauropod (Life is too short to read articles written by Upper West Side twits)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: All

Don't cry .. The Freepers will save us from John Kerry


Donate Here By Secure Server

Or mail checks to
FreeRepublic , LLC
PO BOX 9771
FRESNO, CA 93794

or you can use

PayPal at Jimrob@psnw.com

STOP BY AND BUMP THE FUNDRAISER THREAD-
It is in the breaking news sidebar!


4 posted on 04/02/2004 3:13:02 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Don't be a nuancy boy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: teldon30
oh, geez, here we go, within a few posts some goon will be demanding the repeal of the 19th amendment.
6 posted on 04/02/2004 3:17:18 PM PST by NYpeanut (gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him, "Why did you lie to me?")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: teldon30
Thank you for posting this. Fred Reed is an excellent writer, day in and day out. But in this one he reaches the pinnacle of greatness. And, he's right. We are well into a Brave New World, inexorably, and we don't yet see all the consequences of that.

Congressman Billybob

Click here, then click the blue CFR button, to join the anti-CFR effort (or visit the "Hugh & Series, Critical & Pulled by JimRob" thread). Please do it now.

9 posted on 04/02/2004 3:25:02 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: teldon30
The United States becomes daily more a woman’s world: comfortable, safe, with few outlets for a man’s desire for risk. The America of wild empty country, of guns and fishing and hunting, of physical labor and hot rods and schoolyard fights, has turned gradually into a land of shopping malls and sensible cars and bureaucracy.

And this is the result of women? Who built all those shopping malls and cars? Think about it some more, Fred.

10 posted on 04/02/2004 3:26:48 PM PST by independentmind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: teldon30
Ha-ha, so true. It's turned into a hostile old world for men who don't believe Oprah is a fount of wisdom. When they banned dodge-ball around these parts the "spokesperson" said it was done (of course) "for the children," but also went on to say that it was an "inappropriate outlet" for the "aggression" of little boys. The whole point of it was that little boys should be more like little girls--just one big happy androgynous species here on Mother Earth, you know.
What it will end up being unless something changes is just what the writer predicted: the worst of all possible outcomes, with the worst instincts of both genders setting the agenda and ruling the world.
*Sigh* Time for a stiff drink and a fine cigar....
17 posted on 04/02/2004 3:39:15 PM PST by A Jovial Cad ('In vino veritas!')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: teldon30
A great article. I'm a woman raising three boys. I think God (so far) has seen fit to give me only boys because He knows I love and appreciate every bit of their boyishness. My goal is to raise them into strong, loving, but non-feminized men.
31 posted on 04/02/2004 3:54:16 PM PST by olivia3boys
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: teldon30
They (women) control the divorce courts ...

Oh, its a lot worse than that. Men control divorce courts.

33 posted on 04/02/2004 3:56:59 PM PST by Balto_Boy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: teldon30
Too bad we (men) still own everything!!


34 posted on 04/02/2004 3:57:10 PM PST by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: teldon30
(Women) will if allowed impose a seamless tyranny of suffocating safety, social control, and political propriety.

Fred tells it like it is.

37 posted on 04/02/2004 4:05:22 PM PST by Gritty ("Men are happy for men to be men and women to be women; women want us all to be women"-Fred Reed)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: teldon30
Agree 100%.

Not to say a certain amount of feminization isn't beneficial. Simply saying the sustained effort to purge all things masculine is having a harmful effect.

Especially dangerous in a world where masculinity is still predominate in other cultures.

42 posted on 04/02/2004 4:11:07 PM PST by skeeter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: teldon30
In a world run by women, there is no place for a man that would say "Give me liberty, or give me death." The thought process is, quite frankly, beyond their comprehension.
45 posted on 04/02/2004 4:14:34 PM PST by RobRoy (Science is about "how." Christianity is about "why.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: teldon30
Well, if you want to see a world of masculinity undiluted by femininity, look at Islam.
58 posted on 04/02/2004 4:55:41 PM PST by SedVictaCatoni
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: teldon30
Can one buy coffee at Starbucks and still be considered a man?

What is the most manly drink and the most sissy drink at Starbucks? Latte? Cappuchino? Frappuchino? Plain coffee? What if you add weird stuff like cinammon or chocolate to your coffee? That's sissy, right?

Dunkin' Donuts. Their coffee is more manly. I've seen Tony Soprano drink Dunkin' Donuts coffee on the Sopranos show. But then they walk into a gentrified Starbucks-style coffee shop in another episode and they order those sissy type drinks. But Paulie steals an espresso maker on the way out so I guess that makes up for it.

59 posted on 04/02/2004 5:02:42 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I'm voting for John Kerry until I vote against him in November)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: teldon30
Men have controlled the world through most of history so we know what they do: build things, break things, invent things, compete with each other fiercely and often pointlessly, and fight endless wars that seem to them justifiable at the time but that, seen from afar, are just what males do...

True! I have never known a woman to "build things, break things, invent things, compete with each other fiercely and often pointlessly, and fight endless wars that seem to them justifiable at the time." Hahaha! ;-)

[W]omen want security, pleasantness, and someone to care about (or for)them...

Clearly, Mr. Reed hasn't been on many dates... ;-)

66 posted on 04/02/2004 5:15:54 PM PST by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: teldon30
Does anyone remember the last winter Olympics? There was some judging scandal involving the (fake) sport of figure skating?

The situation was resolved by giving both teams gold medals. It was the triumph of female values.

WE’RE ALL WINNERS!

By the way, I’ve skydived, I scuba and I own a sports car and a sport bike. Of course I’m not married which is why I haven’t been saddle broke.
87 posted on 04/02/2004 5:40:23 PM PST by ElTianti
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: teldon30
Fred is absolutely right. His thinking has been tending this way for years, and in this essay it reaches its peak of veracity. God bless him!--at least one real man, free-thinking and honest, still walks the face of Virginia.

I say this as a woman who is ashamed of many members of my whiny, silly, spoiled, chronically-frightened gender.

99 posted on 04/02/2004 6:22:28 PM PST by Capriole (DO NOT WRITE IN THIS SPACE. FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: teldon30
In the United States women are, I think for the first time in history, gaining real power.

I have trouble believing that. It wasn't so long ago that most people lived their entire lives without ever meeting anyone from more than 200 miles away. In such a world, every imaginable kind of social structure must have been tried somewhere.

I doubt very seriously that this is the first time that women-as-a-class have achieved "real power." It's just that all the societies where this arose previously have disappeared from the planet for some reason, without leaving a trace.

You can find little pockets of matriarchal tribes and so on living in bushes, but all of the "tribes" that flourished at the expense of all others and came to dominate the Earth — basically the Indians, the Chinese, the Western Europeans, and the Arabs — all independently came up with the same idea of lifelong pair-bonding between men and women, and the notion that there is a huge benefit to everyone in arranging things such that men know who their children are, and live in the same house with them.

Any tribe or clan that came up with a different idea for how to arrange things has long since been replaced by some group who does do these things.

As ships began crossing oceans and "discovering new worlds," why is that we never once found a society of any size where women ran everything, and everyone there thought that was normal? As people around the planet became connected with one other during the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries, no one encountered even one successful society where the notion of women running things was considered everyday wisdom.

There is an amazing variety of customs on almost every other subject... what to eat, what clothes should look like, what God to believe in. But every single society that was still around to be 'discovered' two or three hundred years ago has the basic notions of lifelong pair-bonding; and men knowing and being responsible for their children. If your society did not invent or copy that system in your little corner of the world, people like you had been overrun, conquered or just faded away by the time the Columbuses and the Magellans arrived on the scene.

I seriously doubt that humans are so smart that we can analyze our situation here in the 21st century and decide that we don't need this remarkably successful organizing principle anymore. It's not like humans haven't been trying to create Heaven on Earth for millenia. The problem is that the closest any group of people ever got was in places where they had words for "husband" and "wife" and everyone knew what that meant.

I don't know the future. No one does. But everything I see around me in the world tells me that abandoning lifelong pair-bonding has a very high probability of turning out to be a fatal, irreversible, civilization-smashing and "tribe smashing" move of the sort that has led to extinction for so many other nations and tribes.

Why lifelong pair-bonding? Because it works. The people who do it flourish and take over the world. The other ones vanish from the planet. It is that serious an issue. We are talking about extinction, as in dinosaurs. We and our Western European fellows are, in a matter of a few generations, squandering a genetic and culturual legacy that was not really ours to "spend." Many people led hard lives to get us — their children's children's children — to where we are now. Who the Hell are we to decide that everything they did was in vain, and that it should all end here?

The birth rates in most Western (and Westernized -- like Jopan) countries are so far below the replacement rate that the cultural and genetic legacy known as "Denmark" will be gone from the Earth by the end of this centuray. It will survive only in books. The same with the Swedes, the Germans, the Italians. And if truth be told, among many of those with the same roots who are living here.

I don't know what caused it, and I don't know where it leads. But it worries me greatly that in all the years humans have been on this Earth, not one society where women gained "real power" has lived to tell about it.


I agree with the people here who say that Islam is at root a matriarchy. It is the culmination of the process Fred describes in this article, where a handful of the Biggest and Baddest males are seemingly "in charge," while the rest of the society stays frozen in the seventh century, unable to organize or accomplish Big Things. To the extent that men over there jump up and down and wave rocks at us to show us how tough they are, it's because that's the best they can do. They live in a place where everything is run by women. Their society never changes; it's boring; it's oppressive. In the usual inimitable way, there are never any female suspects or witnesses as to how this oppressive force called "Islam" stays in place. There's always a holy book to blame, or a front man wearing a beard. I don't buy it. Just look at it... Islam is Woman. It fights like a woman. It organizes its societies according to Monkey Rules, with a tiny cadre of alpha males pretending to be in charge, while virtually all the resources that do not go this handful of "powerful" men go to women. Monkey rules are at root a system for beggaring males... or at least, all but a relative handful of them.

I see I'll probably get flamed for that. I don't care.

White Feather Women
Let's you and him fight


106 posted on 04/02/2004 8:04:39 PM PST by Nick Danger (carpe ductum)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: teldon30
bump
108 posted on 04/02/2004 8:08:46 PM PST by foreverfree
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-26 next last

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson