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MoveOn Balks at Proposed FEC Rules Changes by Scaring Nonprofits (FEC Email Needs FReeping! NOW!)
Talon News ^ | April 2, 2004 | Jimmy Moore

Posted on 04/02/2004 9:27:16 AM PST by ElephantMan

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To: Liz
Look, rather than ask for enforcement of an unjust law, it would be far better for us to request that the members of the FEC show their solidarity with the people in an exhibition of mass seppuku.
81 posted on 04/04/2004 5:05:54 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Very funny.....mass FEC suicide will solve all the problems (snicker).
82 posted on 04/04/2004 5:45:54 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
CFR already negatively affects conservatives. The point of this exercise is to stop Soros, moveon.org. and lawless liberals. Conservatives are smarter. They'll know what to do next.

LOL! If this were so, we wouldn't have CFR, and we wouldn't be at this disadvantage. Why are the Dem groups up and running and ours aren't? Precisely because we're not smarter when it comes to CFR. GOP lawyers have been discouraging conservatives from giving, and GOP officials and officeholders have done the same. That's because the Bush people want to control everything. They don't want Republican MoveOn type organizations to exist. And that's why we're so far behind in this area.

It's nice to say that the point is to get Soros. (Nice, but unprincipled, but we'll leave that little point aside). Because the point is that it can't be done. These rules, if adopted, will clobber the Club for Growth, Citizens United, Grassfire, the Republican Lawyers Association, Americans for Tax Reform, and make things much tougher for the NRA, NRTL, etc. That's why all of these groups are opposing these rules. Did you know that, by the way? Did you know that Club for Growth, Right to Life, the NRA, and ATR oppose these rules? Does that make you think twice?

Finally, this isn't going to stop Soros in 2004 in any case. If the FEC adopts these rules in May - which is when they have a vote scheduled - the earliest they can take effect is late July or August, by which time Soros and Move On will have spent much of their cash. (By law new rules can't take effect for 30 legislative calendar days - so far this year there have been only about 30 legislative days.) Then the Democrats have already announced plans to sue if the rules are adopted, which will tie them up till the election. All this is just further proof that the Republican lawyers don't know what they're doing.

I would urge you to do some more thinking.

83 posted on 04/04/2004 6:22:26 AM PDT by Gen. Longstreet
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To: Gen. Longstreet


The Soros Threat

The Capitalist Threat
(1997 article by Soros)

SOROS SNACKING ON SIDE DISHES
(Soros the Adulterer)

FR Search for Keyword Soros

FR Search for Keyword George Soros


84 posted on 04/04/2004 6:36:48 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Become a monthly donor on FR. No amount is too small and monthly giving is the way to go !)
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To: Gen. Longstreet
Alright. Let's hear your strategy. What do you suggest?
85 posted on 04/04/2004 6:51:23 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
Strategy suggestion. Do nothing.

Look at the presidential election: John Kerry has rightly asked, “Do you know who I am?” How can we when he doesn’t have a yucking clue? Campaign finance reform further complicated the matter since there will be crucial times when the voters won’t be able to keep the candidate informed about who he is. This is complicated even more because to speak freely, groups must assume a false identity.

And yet, people in tune with themselves eventually come to the realization that their lives are utter mysteries. Looking at it this way, Mr. Kerry is really in tune with the times. He is the candidate that most resembles Leonard Zelig, the chameleon man played by Woody Allen in the historical documentary Zelig. He even said publicly something about becoming the second black president.

With Mr. Kerry’s confusion as to who he actually is, the fear is that he may become so confused that he will take the lead of those seven-year-olds in California who think its neat to be a girl instead of a boy, or vice versa. Imagine the dilemma this presents for the Democratic Party—Hillary will flat out be out-raged—if Mr. Kerry announces in October that he will become a transgender. Or worse, a different species—a pumpkin, for example, a Canadian rutabaga, a Smurf, Barney, or a friend to Michael Jackson.

I’m waiting for the scientists to takeover and begin to muck with the human genetic code to create a new person with attributes of owls, yucca trees, Smurfs, bugs living under a sheet of plywood, and pumpkins and everyone can proclaim: Finally, a people that Mr. Kerry can represent without Zelig-ing into something he’s not.

In fact, the way things are going, I'm beginning to think I can spend my summer fishing since Mr. Kerry sticks his foot up his pompous arse every time he opens his mouth. Who needs ads when the other candidate says something as absurd as: I actually voted for the bill before I voted against it?

86 posted on 04/04/2004 7:31:30 AM PDT by WhiteyAppleseed (2 million defensive gun uses a year. Tell that to the Gun Fairy who'd rather leave you toothless.)
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To: WhiteyAppleseed
....the way things are going, I'm beginning to think I can spend my summer fishing since Mr. Kerry sticks his foot up his pompous arse every time he opens his mouth. Who needs ads when the other candidate says something as absurd as: I actually voted for the bill before I voted against it?....

.....and Kerry was boasting about that, as if it was an accomplishment, no less. Unvelievably, he saw no downside to such a statement. Sure gives one hope. But I'm not depending on Kerry to win it for himself. He's getting a lot of outside help. You got 3-4 books out, or due out-- Dean, Clarke, Kitty Kelly and Wilson's books are all anti-Bush

BTW, nice allusion to Zelig---one of my fave movies. Everything else you wrote sounds like a treatment for a Hollyweird TV movie, "How not to elect a president 2004."

87 posted on 04/04/2004 7:44:12 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
Morning bump...
88 posted on 04/04/2004 7:48:36 AM PDT by Libloather (It's still OK to blame the *Crintons for everything...)
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To: Liz
Unvelievably, he saw no downside to such a statement. Sure gives one hope.

Backpedal 25-30 years and replay the statement. Imagine the implications: I actually decided against pushing the button, before I pushed the button, said against a backdrop of charred ruins, the candidate sitting on an enamel throne, utterly confused and alone.

89 posted on 04/04/2004 8:19:42 AM PDT by WhiteyAppleseed (2 million defensive gun uses a year. Tell that to the Gun Fairy who'd rather leave you toothless.)
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To: WhiteyAppleseed
Yeah, I want that man at the helm. Maybe fishing will have to wait until there is a significant shift in the polls.
90 posted on 04/04/2004 8:20:53 AM PDT by WhiteyAppleseed (2 million defensive gun uses a year. Tell that to the Gun Fairy who'd rather leave you toothless.)
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To: cvq3842
MoveOn was already caught last year accepting FOREIGN donations to campaign against President Bush. They are crooks (of course they are also Clinton Cronies).
91 posted on 04/04/2004 12:27:37 PM PDT by weegee (I'm anti-establishment. I oppose the liberal media elites.)
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To: Gen. Longstreet
527 MoveOn.org bump.
92 posted on 04/04/2004 1:42:46 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: WhiteyAppleseed
Kerry's voter base lives in the Clinton-era a parallel universe where true is false, bad is good, black is white, villians are heroes, and so on, and so forth, ad infinitum, ad nauseaum.

Kerry is the face of evil secularism. He epitomizes the confusion of moral relativity. Kerry would strengthen secularists stranglehold on American culture, and impose the religious-hating left's bogus belief system on us----The Secular Credo:

1. Capitalism creates oppression; government creates opportunity.

2. Traditional gender roles are artificial but feminism, homosexuality, and transgender-sexuality are government-protected lifestyles.

3. Self-esteem is paramount; government must undertake to guarantee each citizen-victim self-esteem with as many billion dollar programs as it takes.

4. The ACLU is good, because destroying religion and silencing believers are protected by the Constitution and the First Amendment; The NRA is bad because it defends the Constitution;

5. Standardized IQ tests are racist; racial quotas and affirmative action are not.

6. Conservatives are racists; everybody knows that Black people can't make it on their own without big-buck government assistance programs and warped Hollyweirdos to proselytize the message 24/7.

7. Normal sex is perverted. Threesomes, bestiality, necrophilia, homosexuality are just new ways to get a thrill.

8. Moral indignation is our standard strategy for endowing our ideals with superiority.

9. Victimization is our basic belief system by which we blame and find others responsible for our own personal failures, then expect taxpayers, deep pocketed individuals, or the courts to bail us out. It feels good to be in the throes of "victimization" and either A) causing victims, B) concocting victims, C) playing victim, D) commiserating over victims, or E) creating another class of victims to bleed over.

10. It's a secularists' duty to treat voters in the manner of raising mushrooms, that is to say, keep them in the dark and feed them lots of horse manure.

93 posted on 04/04/2004 1:55:59 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
Done! E-mail your friends!
94 posted on 04/05/2004 9:32:26 AM PDT by 1stFreedom
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To: ElephantMan
Re-bump!
95 posted on 04/05/2004 10:26:26 AM PDT by talleyman (Never question the patriotism of Democrats - there's none to question)
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To: M Kehoe
the RNC should start these 527s
But so far they don't want to. Why not? Anyone know?
96 posted on 04/05/2004 10:57:42 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: ElephantMan
bttt
97 posted on 04/06/2004 8:48:59 PM PDT by Kudsman
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To: ElephantMan
oooo....
little georgie soros is upset.


GOOD.
98 posted on 04/06/2004 9:41:11 PM PDT by King Prout (You may disagree with what I have to say... but I will defend to YOUR death MY right to say it.)
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To: Liz; WhiteyAppleseed
Alright. Let's hear your strategy. What do you suggest?

Quit whining, quite scaring conservative donors, quit having party officials discourage conservatives from giving to conservative groups other than the party and Bush-Cheney, get our groups going, and beat the Democrats.

99 posted on 04/07/2004 8:14:40 PM PDT by Gen. Longstreet
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To: Gen. Longstreet; WhiteyAppleseed
Email from Bush-Cheney 04 Relection Chair Marc Racicot
Take action to overcome John Kerry's (527's) special interests!

April 5, 2004


The President's re-election campaign needs your help with a simple e-mail. As you know, special interest groups called "527s" have been spending millions in unregulated soft money to defeat President Bush. We need you to write a letter TODAY to the Federal Election Commission asking that John Kerry's soft money special interest groups obey the law at:

http://www.GeorgeWBush.com/Letters/

The Bush-Cheney campaign is taking steps to ensure that these groups comply with federal election law. Last week, the Bush-Cheney campaign and the Republican National Committee filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission to take the first step toward getting these groups into court before a federal judge.

Now the campaign can use your help. The Federal Election Commission is considering implementing new rules that would force these groups to comply with federal law. The special interest groups are running a nationwide e-mail campaign opposing these rules. To make sure that everyone plays by the same rules we need you to tell the Commissioners they should force these groups to comply with federal law.

If you have just a few minutes, please send an e-mail as soon as possible by going to:

http://www.GeorgeWBush.com/Letters/

Onward,

Marc Racicot

Chairman Bush-Cheney '04



100 posted on 04/08/2004 4:23:57 AM PDT by Liz
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