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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread 6
Voice of America ^ | 01 Apr 2004 | Nick Simeone

Posted on 04/01/2004 10:57:03 AM PST by thecabal

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US Promises to Punish Those Responsible for Gruesome Iraq Attacks

The top U.S. official in Iraq says Wednesday's gruesome attacks on four American civilians whose burned bodies were put on display in the town of Fallujah will not go unpunished.

"It's going to be deliberate, it will be precise and it will be overwhelming," U.S. General Mark Kimmitt said, speaking to reporters in Baghdad. He warned insurgents in the town of Fallujah to be prepared for U.S. forces to strike back following Wednesday's killing of four American contractors by a frenzied mob that dragged their charred bodies through the streets.

Televised footage of the act has provoked outrage from Americans in the United States and led U.S. administrator in Baghdad Paul Bremer to issue a warning.

"Their deaths will not go unpunished," he promised.

The White House blamed the attacks on supporters of Saddam Hussein. The remains of the four were to be turned over to the U.S. military.

A day after the attack, three American soldiers were injured in another attack near Fallujah, this time when their Humvee struck a roadside bomb.


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To: WestCoastGal
Yeah, there are a lot of CINO's on FR.
4,861 posted on 04/24/2004 9:09:50 PM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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To: WestCoastGal
It probably just sounded like a good scare tactic so they used it. Von Werdenberg's visions are very far out there if you ask me. I found another page where it goes on and on and on to the end of the world.

Anyway, goodnight!

4,862 posted on 04/24/2004 9:13:07 PM PDT by knak
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To: little jeremiah; Indie
Just checked google for the cut fence story. It was on the Big Isle.

link

4,863 posted on 04/24/2004 9:22:51 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: All
FYI

China-India-Pakistan ties will ensure peace in Asia: speakers

Staff Report

LAHORE: A seminar organised by the Pakistan National Forum on Saturday stressed the need for a strong China-India-Pakistan relationship to ensure peace and economic development in the region.

Speakers at the seminar titled “The future of Pakistan in the present international scenario” urged the Organisation of Islamic Conference (OIC) to unify Muslim countries to compete with the challenges posed by superpowers in the future.

They also said that Arab countries should also unite, as economic development would depend on oil for at least 20 to 25 years.

Awami Qiadat Party chief Gen (r) Mirza Aslam Beg, former Punjab Assembly speaker Muhammad Hanif Ramay, former Local Bodies Minister Brig (r) Hamid Saeed Akhtar, Col (r) Ikramullah and Senator SM Zafar also spoke on the occasion and stressed long-term peace between India and Pakistan so that both countries could divert their attention towards development instead of increasing their nuclear stockpiles.

Gen (r) Beg said the world had changed after the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and Pakistan must try its best to be a part of the strategic and economic world order. He said South Asian countries, European Union states, Russia, India, China and the US would be the future superpowers and Pakistan must develop good relations with them.

Mr Ramay said the Americans had been corrupted due to its power and was bullying smaller countries to counter the emergence of new superpowers such as China, India and Pakistan. Unfortunately, Pakistan was under pressure because of the lack of power and therefore it must develop good relations with India and China to counter the American threat, he added. Being nuclear powers, India and Pakistan had an equal status and both countries should resolve the Kashmir issue through bilateral talks, he said, adding that the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC), OIC and other countries friendly with Pakistan should also come forward to resolve the Kashmir issue.

He urged the government to stop creating dissent among the provinces and provincial autonomy should be given to the provinces to avoid an East Pakistan-like situation in the country. The Punjab should be divided into two or more provinces for administrative purposes, Mr Ramay said.

Brig (r) Saeed said Pakistan had lost the chance to reduce its debt (external and internal) during the US attack on Afghanistan. Becoming a frontline state for the US attack on Afghanistan had not guaranteed the protection of Pakistan’s rights and was one of the Pakistani government’s biggest mistakes, he added. India and America had the same strategic interests and Pakistan must protect its economic interest while settling the Kashmir issue with India, he said, adding that Pakistan’s canal system was linked to Kashmir and Pakistan should keep its economic interest in mind before talking to India.

Senator Zafar said the OIC should facilitate the exchange of science and technology among Muslim countries. The Islamic world should strengthen itself in all fields to counter developing countries, he said, adding that only unity could ensure the rightful place of the Islamic world in the new world order.

He said the provision of justice was the only way of changing the system. The government should stop interfering in the judiciary so that the courts could make decisions independently, he added. The state and judiciary were the only institutions that could change the society and in this regard the judiciary must be independent, he said. He urged Pakistan’s political forces to forge mutual understanding to restore real democracy in the country.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_25-4-2004_pg7_38
4,864 posted on 04/24/2004 9:34:08 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (Let your adversary talk. When he has finished, let him talk some more.)
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To: texasbluebell
Thank you!
4,865 posted on 04/24/2004 9:39:35 PM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT
MISC INSIDE INFO: An AA 777 from JFK to London was diverted to Shannon a couple days ago due to two disruptive passengers that the Cpt felt were a danger to the aircraft. They were kicked off and after a delay of 2 hrs, the plane left for London again. No more details about the subjects was released.
4,866 posted on 04/24/2004 9:42:10 PM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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To: Indie

Four die in plastics plant blast
From Jim Paul in Illiopolis, Illinois
25apr04
AN explosion at a plastics manufacturing plant has jolted a US town, killing four workers, critically injuring two others and forcing the evacuation of the entire community.

Six other workers suffered less serious injuries in the blast, which demolished up to 75 per cent of the Formosa Plastics Plant in Illiopolis and rattled the windows and walls of houses well over 1.5km away.

"I'm not a war veteran, but that is the loudest explosion I've ever heard in my life," said Illiopolis Mayor Allen Brickey, who lives less than three kilometres from the plant.

Dozens of firefighters were today still working to put out fires at the plant, about 40 kilometres east of Springfield.

Workers were mixing vinyl chloride and vinyl acetate when an explosion occurred, followed by one or two subsequent blasts, Sangamon County Sheriff Neil Williamson said. Eighteen workers were in the plant at the time.









Four injured workers were admitted to Springfield's Memorial Medical Centre. Hospital spokesman Ed McDowall said two were in critical condition, one was in serious condition and one was in fair condition.

Four others were treated for smoke inhalation at other hospitals.

Illiopolis' roughly 1000 residents were evacuated after the explosion because of hazardous fumes created by burning chemicals. Evacuees were sheltered in malls, stores and hotels.

Plant manager Roe Vadas said the cause of the explosion was unknown. Investigators from the US Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board and the plant's corporate parent, Formosa Plastics Corp USA, were travelling to the scene.

The plant, with about 135 workers, makes PVC resins that are used in vinyl flooring, traffic cones and carpet backing.

A 30km section of Interstate 72 was closed for about six hours after the explosion, said Patti Thompson, a spokeswoman with the Illinois Emergency Management Agency.

http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,9385767%255E1702,00.html
4,867 posted on 04/24/2004 9:45:44 PM PDT by 4thygipper
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To: All
Ya'll ain't goin' believe this...

Apocalypse Please: Fundamentalists Drive US policy towards the Middle East

By George Monbiot

April 24, 2004

The Guardian 20th April 2004



US policy towards the Middle East is driven by a rarefied form of madness. It’s time we took it seriously.

To understand what is happening in the Middle East, you must first understand what is happening in Texas. To understand what is happening there, you should read the resolutions passed at the state's Republican party conventions last month. Take a look, for example, at the decisions made in Harris County, which covers much of Houston.1

The delegates began by nodding through a few uncontroversial matters: homosexuality is contrary to the truths ordained by God; "any mechanism to process, license, record, register or monitor the ownership of guns" should be repealed; income tax, inheritance tax, capital gains tax and corporation tax should be abolished; and immigrants should be deterred by electric fences.2 Thus fortified, they turned to the real issue: the affairs of a small state 7000 miles away. It was then, according to a participant, that the "screaming and near fistfights" began.

I don't know what the original motion said, but apparently it was "watered down significantly" as a result of the shouting match. The motion they adopted stated that Israel has an undivided claim to Jerusalem and the West Bank, that Arab states should be pressured to absorb refugees from Palestine, and that Israel should do whatever it wishes in seeking to eliminate terrorism.3 Good to see that the extremists didn't prevail then.

But why should all this be of such pressing interest to the people of a state which is seldom celebrated for its fascination with foreign affairs? The explanation is slowly becoming familiar to us, but we still have some difficulty in taking it seriously.

In the United States, several million people have succumbed to an extraordinary delusion. In the 19th century, two immigrant preachers cobbled together a series of unrelated passages from the Bible to create what appears to be a consistent narrative: Jesus will return to earth when certain preconditions have been met. The first of these was the establishment of a state of Israel. The next involves Israel's occupation of the rest of its "Biblical lands" (most of the Middle East), and the rebuilding of the Third Temple on the site now occupied by the Dome of the Rock and Al-Aqsa mosques. The legions of the Antichrist will then be deployed against Israel, and their war will lead to a final showdown in the valley of Armageddon. The Jews will either burn or convert to Christianity, and the Messiah will return to earth.

What makes the story so appealing to Christian fundamentalists is that before the big battle begins, all "true believers" (ie those who believe what THEY believe) will be lifted out of their clothes and wafted up to heaven during an event called the Rapture. Not only do the worthy get to sit at the right hand of God, but they will be able to watch, from the best seats, their political and religious opponents being devoured by boils, sores, locusts and frogs, during the seven years of Tribulation which follow.

The true believers are now seeking to bring all this about. This means staging confrontations at the old temple site (in 2000 three US Christians were deported for trying to blow up the mosques there)4, sponsoring Jewish settlements in the occupied territories, demanding ever more US support for Israel, and seeking to provoke a final battle with the Muslim world/Axis of Evil/United Nations/European Union/France or whoever the legions of the Antichrist turn out to be.

The believers are convinced that they will soon be rewarded for their efforts. The Antichrist is apparently walking among us, in the guise of Kofi Annan, Javier Solana, Yasser Arafat or, more plausibly, Silvio Berlusconi.5 The Walmart corporation is also a candidate (in my view a very good one), because it wants to radio-tag its stock, thereby exposing humankind to the Mark of the Beast.6 By clicking on www.raptureready.com, you can discover how close you might be to flying out of your pyjamas. The infidels among us should take note that the Rapture Index currently stands at 144, just one point below the critical threshold, beyond which the sky will be filled with floating nudists. Beast Government, Wild Weather and Israel are all trading at the maximum five points (the EU is debating its constitution, there was a freak hurricane in the South Atlantic, Hamas has sworn to avenge the killing of its leaders), but the second coming is currently being delayed by an unfortunate decline in drug abuse among teenagers and a weak showing by the Antichrist (both of which score only two).

We can laugh at these people, but we should not dismiss them. That their beliefs are bonkers does not mean they are marginal. American pollsters believe that between 15 and 18% of US voters belong to churches or movements which subscribe to these teachings.7 A survey in 1999 suggested that this figure included 33% of Republicans.8 The best-selling contemporary books in the United States are the 12 volumes of the Left Behind series, which provide what is usually described as a "fictionalised" account of the Rapture (this, apparently, distinguishes it from the other one), with plenty of dripping details about what will happen to the rest of us. The people who believe all this don't believe it just a little; for them it is a matter of life eternal and death.

And among them are some of the most powerful men in America. John Ashcroft, the attorney-general, is a true believer, so are several prominent senators and the House majority leader, Tom DeLay. Mr DeLay (who is also the co-author of the marvellously-named DeLay-Doolittle Amendment, postponing campaign finance reforms) travelled to Israel last year to tell the Knesset that "there is no middle ground, no moderate position worth taking."9

So here we have a major political constituency - representing much of the current president's core vote - in the most powerful nation on earth, which is actively seeking to provoke a new world war. Its members see the invasion of Iraq as a warm-up act, as Revelations (9:14-15) maintains that four angels "which are bound in the great river Euphrates" will be released "to slay the third part of men." They batter down the doors of the White House as soon as its support for Israel wavers: when Bush asked Ariel Sharon to pull his tanks out of Jenin in 2002, he received 100,000 angry emails from Christian fundamentalists, and never mentioned the matter again.10

The electoral calculation, crazy as it appears, works like this. Governments stand or fall on domestic issues. For 85% of the US electorate, the Middle East is a foreign issue, and therefore of secondary interest when they enter the polling booth. For 15% of the electorate, the Middle East is not just a domestic matter, it's a personal one: if the president fails to start a conflagration there, his core voters don't get to sit at the right hand of God. Bush, in other words, stands to lose fewer votes by encouraging Israeli aggression than he stands to lose by restraining it. He would be mad to listen to these people. He would also be mad not to.

George Monbiot's book The Age of Consent: a manifesto for a new world order is now published in paperback.

www.monbiot.com

http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%20editorials/2004%20opinions/April/24%20o/Apocalypse%20Please%20Fundamentalists%20Drive%20US%20policy%20towards%20the%20Middle%20East%20By%20George%20Monbiot.htm
4,868 posted on 04/24/2004 9:45:52 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (Let your adversary talk. When he has finished, let him talk some more.)
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To: 4thygipper
Another artilce about this.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/20040424-1214-plantexplosion.html
4,869 posted on 04/24/2004 9:47:41 PM PDT by 4thygipper
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To: Indie
Hmmmmmm wonder why this stuff always happens on AA. If it was DAL I could find out. Will ask on Mon. anyway airline people love to gossip.
4,870 posted on 04/24/2004 10:01:44 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (Let your adversary talk. When he has finished, let him talk some more.)
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To: JustPiper
Heavenly Father, we return to give You thanks that You are God. There is none like unto You, O Lord, yet the world is filled with false gods and many there are who go after them. By the Power of the Holy Spirit, reach into the hearts of those who have longing for You, but who have been led astray. Bring forth Your Word, that these dear ones will come to know the one true, living God.

Daily we are mindful, O God, of the heartbreak in the loss of our precious sons and daughters. Bind up our hearts, for we grieve with the families ... we are here because their loved one is not. Let our tears fall upon blood-soaked soil ... let freedom and liberty rise in their place. Let our tears fall upon the wickedness of man ... let man repent that he might have eternal life in You.

Grant success to our mission, Lord ... may Your hand of blessing be upon it, for we seek to liberate and not dominate ... we seek security and safety. Cast aside the plans of the enemy, for nothing can stand against You. Draw us into a united cause, for it is folly and foolishness to think the appetite of the enemy can be appeased. Lead us in denying sustenance, lest he eventually devour all. We stand firm in conviction, Merciful Father, and resolute in purpose. May we return in victory, in the Name of Jesus, I pray, Amen ...

4,871 posted on 04/24/2004 10:30:22 PM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Oorang
bkmark
4,872 posted on 04/24/2004 11:06:15 PM PDT by Oorang ( "Aim towards the Enemy."- Instruction printed on US Rocket Launcher)
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To: texasbluebell
That part of the Big Island is very remote and I can't imagine terrorists benefitting from that vandalism in any way. Native Hawaiian activists, maybe? Environmentalists? But it looks like enviros would LIKE the fences up.

I wonder if it on the slopes of Mauna Loa, there are observatories up there.
4,873 posted on 04/24/2004 11:06:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: JustPiper
Oh, dear,

will I get pulled also, as I said early on that we should look for a terrorist in this crash.

Still suspect that there are terrorists involved in the N. Korea blast.

Love,
your nutty ma
Can't decide if I am a Walnut or a Pecan tonight.
4,874 posted on 04/24/2004 11:18:04 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (google search: Cuba's submarines in the Gulf of Mexico or OBL's al qaeda navy)
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To: liberallyconservative
Heavenly Father, we return to give You thanks that You have blessed lib's mom with successful surgery. We praise You, O Lord, that You covered her with Your protection. Guide now her recovery, I pray, that she would be restored to good health. Give lib times of rest and refreshment even as she ministers to her mother's needs. Encourage them and strengthen them, in the Name of Jesus, I pray, Amen ...
4,875 posted on 04/24/2004 11:24:52 PM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: rickylc
Dear Ricky,

What a wonderful thought to live with, thank you.

Yes, I may have enough, this year it looks like I will have a cooler for the summer, it is ready to go, thanks to Brother.... Last summer I didn't have a cooler and I think that some of my oils turned a little.

I had intended to write to you and encourage you to push on with your dreams, don't put them aside for any reason.

I saved too many of mine "until I retired", wish I hadn't as they won't get done in this life.

Your dream is a lovely one and not only the beauty of the plants, but the wonderful healing that you will be sharing with the world.

I know that some think that I am nuts, with my Lavender cures all, but thanks to God, it does seem to cure most of man's ills.

Are you aware of the Lavender groups at Yahoo? There is one that deals with growing and a couple with cooking recipes.

As a Freeper, i have most of my Yahoo groups on no mail, but may still be signed in to them, if you need the address.

Good luck and God Bless you and your efforts,

Ruth
4,876 posted on 04/24/2004 11:28:16 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (google search: Cuba's submarines in the Gulf of Mexico or OBL's al qaeda navy)
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To: MamaDearest
But Mama,

God provided for that mouse.

After the PFC has him for dinner, the mouse will be in Heaven before the PFC.

God made mice for Kitty to have for dinner, and he made the mice to multiply quickly and often.

I have read that cats rule the world, but if you do some real deep thinking about it, maybe the cats give orders to God also. (No, it wouldn't surprise me).................
4,877 posted on 04/24/2004 11:34:26 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (google search: Cuba's submarines in the Gulf of Mexico or OBL's al qaeda navy)
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To: Indie
Indie, on this one I have to agree with you.

What is going on here? Why are we being nice?

Surely, not to please some blasted liberal.
4,878 posted on 04/24/2004 11:37:19 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (google search: Cuba's submarines in the Gulf of Mexico or OBL's al qaeda navy)
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To: WestCoastGal
This isn't the first time that we have found them using something off the internet.

I have found 2 different Christian sites that were the base for the threats they published.

You can back track, by using the strange phrases and sometimes, go to the source.
4,879 posted on 04/24/2004 11:40:26 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (google search: Cuba's submarines in the Gulf of Mexico or OBL's al qaeda navy)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT
I think that I must be missing something here in this story.

Are we not now wonderful friends with Pakistan?

Doesn't India now have most of our jobs?

Are we not sending China billions of dollars?

and that makes us evil and asia needs to band together?

What happens if we stop the supporting of china, india and pakistan?
4,880 posted on 04/24/2004 11:52:11 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (google search: Cuba's submarines in the Gulf of Mexico or OBL's al qaeda navy)
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