Al Qaeda website urges attacks on Canada

CTV.ca ^ | March 31, 2004 | CTV.ca News Staff

[jocon307]

These folks are at war with the west, with Christians, with Jews, with Hindus, with Buddhists, with everybody who is "not them".

This war is going to really escalate and we really haven't killed enough people on their side yet.

[guitfiddlist]

There is still no national plan to deal with biological attacks.

That's not true. Canada has fast and ready plans to deal with this and any other kind of terrorist attack. Blame America.

[Gefreiter]

Not flaming and not lecturing. Purely converssational tone here:

As a terrorist:
Saddam gave $$ to the families of suicide bombers. The top terrorist who seized the Achille Lauro lived in safety in Baghdad for years (just died). The Baathists trained fedayeen, domestic terror groups that now conduct guerilla operations within Iraq. Saddam's secret service was traced to an assasination attempt on Bush Sr.

On WMD:
The cease-fire (NOT peace treaty) after GW1 called for Saddam to account for all WMDs, to the satisfaction of the UN Security Council, and destroy same. Which never happened. The evidence of WMD was compelling enough for the UN and 3 American Presidents over 12 years.

[SB00]

It would be horrible if the only thing that would wake the Canadian government up to terrorism is an attack right on Canadian soil like 9/11.

[Eurotwit]

Thank goodness the Bush administration doesn't talk like you.

[Big Horn]

I think the U.S. has support in western Canada in places like Alberta. I know of little disrespect for our flag and president in your part of Canada. Some of the anti U.S. crap that some of the Canadians are doing are disgusting, but we have the same thing here. I think you will in time see where Iraq is a center for terrorists.

[FierceDraka]

Cowards. They can't attack Fortress America, so they'll go after our smaller, weaker cousins.

Funny though, that our smaller, weaker cousins have done nothing but roll over and lick the boots of the terrorists, and the terrorists make targets of them anyway.

So much for sitting around singing "Cumbaya" like one big happy human family, eh?

[FierceDraka]

I know there are good people in Canada, mostly out West.

I imagine a lot of these terrorists are illiterate yahoos who learned the Koran by rote, and can't tell a Yank from a Canuck anyway.

[Stallone]

The Great Canadian Hope - Stephen Harper Website

The creation of the new Conservative Party is our once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to take our shared conservative values and make them the driving force of Canadian politics. I have spent a lifetime fighting for these values. In my years with the PC Party, Reform, and the Canadian Alliance, I have always stood for:

Free enterprise and fiscal responsibility;
Accountability in government and democratic reform;
Individual freedom and personal responsibility;
Traditional values and sustainable social programs;
Strong criminal justice and a Strong National Defence.

[Ciexyz]

In spite of what people say about Canada, I agree that it's a very nice country. The people are pleasant and polite to Americans (my experience in Toronto, anyway) and the city was very clean.

However, I feel sorry for the Canadians when things start to go boom up there. Everybody knows it's inevitable. You can't pander to terrorists and turn your heads while they use Canada as a base of operations to slip into the US to attack us here. The terrorists are in Canada, and it's only a matter of time that they hit Canada, too. Wonder how big the shock will be to our Canadian neighbors then?

[hawkaw]

I guess I read all of this posts and see a lot of nasty comments about us taking a hit. Then I remember of the special forces we had in place during the Halfganistan war killing the terrorists. Then I think of the brave soldiers we have lost in the cause. Then I think of the two thousand troops we have on the ground in Halfganistan to help terrorism. I then remember a number of Canadians dying on 9/11 at WTC Towers 1 and 2.

Yes some of the comments on this thread are justified to hold the Government of Canada accountable. I just don't know if some of the other comments on this thread are warranted.

hawk

[Stallone]

The Great Canadian Hope - Stephen Harper Website

The creation of the new Conservative Party is our once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to take our shared conservative values and make them the driving force of Canadian politics. I have spent a lifetime fighting for these values. In my years with the PC Party, Reform, and the Canadian Alliance, I have always stood for:

Free enterprise and fiscal responsibility;
Accountability in government and democratic reform;
Individual freedom and personal responsibility;
Traditional values and sustainable social programs;
Strong criminal justice and a Strong National Defence.

[albertabound]

I am struck by the same observation when I go to New Jersey.

[null and void]

ping

[CommandoFrank]

Don't forget the 911 terrorists were trained in Salmon Pak, Iraq.

And don't forget that Saddam was paying money to any terrorist act of killing Israeli's by the Palestinians...

And don't forget the fact that Saddam was harboring Al Q's who were seeking a good hiding place...

[NorthOf45]

MNJohnnie, do some homework before you post ...

Hours after the planes hit the WTC on Sept 11, Canada expressed its shock and pledged assistance. The PM at that time, albeit Chretien, stated "All Canadians are praying that the brave firefighters and rescue crews who are currently on the scene will be successful in limiting the casualties. We stand ready to provide any assistance that our American friends may need at this very, very difficult hour and in the subsequent investigation."

When the FAA closed the airspace over the U.S., Canada did the same over our skies and accommodated 100-200 planes and 10’s of thousands of stranded travellers.

On October 7, 2001, Canada committed air, land and sea forces to Operation Apollo, the Canadian contribution to the War Against Terrorism. Approximately twice that which was sent to the 1990/91 Gulf War, was committed to the War Against Terrorism.

Canada was the first coalition member to send a naval taskforce to assist the U.S. in the War Against Terrorism. At its height, in January, 2002, there were 6 Canadian ships with 1,500 Navy personnel on duty. We're still there. The duties included force-protection, fleet-support and interdiction operations. To date, Canadian ships have hailed 21,800 vessels and performed more than 50% of the 1,100 boardings conducted by the multinational coalition fleet.

Canada also immediately put 1,000 ground troops on alert for deployment to Afghanistan. In January, 2002, 750 soldiers were sent over. Included with this deployment were snipers (highly effective as we know) and Canadian-made Coyote armoured reconnaissance vehicles (which the U.S. specifically requested for this mission).

Also, concerning ground forces, in December, 2001, it is confirmed that approximately 40 Canadian Special Forces units (JTF-2) were operating in the theatre.

In terms of air support, Canada contributed one CC-150 Polaris (Airbus A310) long-range transport aircraft (with 40 support personnel), two CP-140 Aurora long-range surveillance/maritime patrol aircraft (with 200 support personnel) and three CC-130 Hercules transport aircraft (with 200 support personnel).
___________________________________________________________

Now, as for the war in Iraq, as per the New York Times on September 25, 2002:

'Prime Minister Jean Chretien had said as recently as two weeks ago that Canada would oppose a unilateral U.S. military strike on Baghdad. But he welcomed President Bush's appeal for U.N. involvement and claimed it as a victory for Canadian ideals.

The United States wants the U.N. Security Council to approve a resolution authorizing force against Iraq if it fails to comply with weapons inspections again. The wording is still being worked out, but France has said it won't approve a resolution that gives the United States "a green light" to strike.

Chretien said he pushed President Bush during a Sept. 9 meeting in Detroit to work through the United Nations instead of going it alone.

"He went as we wanted him to do, to include the U.N.," Chretien said Tuesday about Bush’s appeal to the world body three days after their Detroit meeting.

Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister Bill Graham also called for a U.N. resolution with "no wiggle room to fool around, or action will be taken."

"We can certainly endorse the United States position that there has to be clear consequences for a failure to act," he said.

While neither Graham nor Chretien committed to supporting a military campaign, Canada is considered a likely backer once the U.N. process has played out.'
___________________________________________________________

As per the National Post on March 18, 2003:

‘Until yesterday, Mr. Chrétien had refused to make a definitive statement about Canada's intentions while negotiations aimed at reaching a deal over Iraq at the Security Council were ongoing.

In recent weeks, Canada had made two compromise proposals designed to unite the United States and Great Britain with anti-war countries France, Russia and China. "Unfortunately, we were not successful," Mr. Chrétien said.

In an effort to ease potential tensions with Washington over the decision, Mr. Chrétien said Canada will continue to lead a multinational naval task force in the Persian Gulf as part of the ongoing U.S.-led war on terrorism. Canada will also help in the reconstruction of Iraq and humanitarian assistance after a war, he said.’
___________________________________________________________

As per the New York Times on March 25, 2003:

‘Cellucci (U.S. Ambassador to Canada) noted that as part of its role in the war on terrorism, Canada has warships in the Persian Gulf and military planners working with U.S. and British forces in the gulf region.

``Ironically, the Canadians indirectly provide more support for us in Iraq than most of those'' 46 countries in the coalition fighting against Saddam's regime, he said.’
___________________________________________________________

As per the Globe and Mail on April 29, 2003:

‘The federal government announced Tuesday the deployment of police, prison guards and legal experts to help rebuild the criminal-justice system in postwar Iraq.

The Canadian offer includes an expanded role for three Hercules aircraft already operating in the region and “select units” of the military’s Disaster Assistance Response Team (DART), should they be required.

“Canada is responding to U.S. requests for assistance in this post-conflict period and is assessing additional contributions to Iraq’s reconstruction,” said a statement from the Prime Minister’s Office.

Canada has committed about $106-million to humanitarian efforts in Iraq. More than $60-million has been disbursed through the United Nations and other organizations to help meet basic needs such as food, water, and health care.

There are more than 1,275 Canadian Forces personnel in the Persian Gulf region, including two warships and two Aurora aircraft, as well as the three Hercules planes.’

We now have roughly 2,000 soldiers, fighting and dying, in Afghanistan. So to those who are quick to say that we are no ally, think again.

You might say “that’s not much of a contribution”. That may be true to a certain degree. I wish we would/could contribute more. However, consider this, for every Canadian soldier in operation, there is one less U.S. soldier in danger and one less American family who needs to worry. Let me reiterate what was quoted in an earlier excerpt … we are contributing more than some in the “Coalition of the Willing”.
___________________________________________________________

Also, we were some of the first on the ground in Haiti as well.

Sorry to all for the length of the post. I used it in a previous thread and thought it appropriate for this response. Eventhough our government is killing our own military, we’re still an ally. While our useless current government and misguided media make you think twice about our attitudes, don’t assume that all Canadians think this way.

[XRdsRev]

I am from New Jersey and standing in my back yard, I could see the smoke from the World Trade Center attack. I remember reading about people from my township who had been killed that day and the overwhelming sadness that descended on all of us.

I may not agree with Canadians about everything but I still consider them friends of the US and I personally hope and pray that Canada never has to suffer the same tragedy that we went through that terrible day.

[hawkaw]

And I hope the USA never ever ever has to go through what it went through.

hawk

[MEG33]

I appreciate Canada's contribution as evidenced by my posts here. Unfortunately the "moron" statement and other statements by the Canadian government,polls,editorials and general atmosphere of moral superiority encouraged the resentment in the lower 48.

I have no faith on the UN to handle anything except elections and food distribution when no one is shooting.I have no faith in France.I have no faith in China,or in Russia to do what is in the interest of the US or the world for that matter and there is evidence to prove it.The UN Oil for Food Program and arms sales explain a lot.

Chretien would have had our soldiers camped out in the desert of Kuwait or months more.An army cannot keep sharp like that.We disagree over Iraq,as many do in the US and on this board.We could wait no longer.The inspections would not have been restarted at all but for our army across the border.We could not sustain that state of affairs.

[albertabound]

International antagonism is a two way street and most counterproductive. Canadians are of the opinion that by invading Iraq, America did the right thing but America did not do the thing right. Our Foreign affairs people were concerned about a backlash on unilateral action and went so far as to table a set of recommendations to both the U.S.and the U.N. calling for a 30 day extension of the deadline and one final report from the weapons Inspectors.

Both authorities chucked these recommendations giving the louse Chretien the opportunity to withdraw the Canadian troops waiting on the tarmac and sidle up to his Euro-buddies, as French-Canadians are prone to do.

If some Canadians are antagonistic it is because they percive that the average American takes Canadians for granted, looks at us as a bunch of frozen assed hicks running around saying ooot and abooot all the time and gets downright nasty if we do not fully toe the U.S. line.

The bottom line is, Canada has a solid international reputation, is engaged in the war on terrorism, is not soft on terrorists, is not crawling with shifty eyed villans and is playing catchup right now after years of languishing under uncles protection and ten years of liberal rule.

Your typical Canuck loves America and Americans, probably as much as you natives do, and wants to be America Junior provided you acknowledge that the Canadian National inferiority complex needs a bit of nurturing from time to time, the byproduct of being a small country populationwise, co-habiting space with the biggest baddest bastard on the block. In short, we get upset if we don't get special treatment from Uncle Sam, whether we deserve it or not.