O'Reilly to call for the leveling of Fallujah?

Foxnews ^ | March 31, 2004. | Bill O' Reilly

[ConservativeMan55]

Foxnews host Bill O'Reilly just previewed his show. "Problems continue for the U.S. Military in Fallujah. Why doesn't the U.S. Military just go ahead and level it?"

I have to say that I agree with Bill. Level the place.

[null and void]

Does anyone recall a marvelous poem that was posted shortly after 9/11, maybe about the time we went into Afghanistan?

It went something like:

"I want them to cower in their holes when they hear jets.
I want the sounds of diesel engines to terrify them into running for the hills.
Ten generations from now
I want their mothers to say to their unruly children
'If you are not careful the Pale Destroyers - the Americans - will come!'
and that will be enough to shock them into instant obeisance."

Anyone???

[Tennessee_Bob]

If the President desires drastic measures as did Truman then the President can order such measures.

If the "drastic measures" are in violation of the Code of Conduct, then it is an unlawful order, and the officers and enlisted men would be right in disobeying it.

The war is on Terrorism - correct - so now we're going to wipe out entire cities? Works for me. Nuke them till they glow then shoot them in the dark, as we used to say.

An appeaser? That's a good one - wrong, but a good one.

[Final Authority]

I tried to read your reply 419, please do not bother to reply to any of my comments. When you introduce emotion into a life and death struggle, as if one who exhibits emotion is less than one who exhibits something you call common sense then you seem to be a loser and a fatalist and one who might offer up his family in the face of an armed intruder. As Michael Savage might say, you are the enemy within.

What are your credentials with respect to Physics and modern nuclear weapons? I suspect they are but minimal in that you may understand some of the basic principles but you know not much about the fallout of nuclear warfare in the modern era. It is minimal, even compared to Hiroshima and Nagasaki where the bombs were crude, dirty, and inefficient. Would you prefer fallout in Knoxville rather in Baghdad? Explain to the families of the 3000 victims of 9-11 and the families of the 600 odd dead in Iraq that emotion must be restrained. You haven't seen battle, have you? Please, take your pleasantries elsewhere.

[TomasUSMC]

We are not going to lose a B52 over Iraq. Of course some people are so afraid of anything that they can do nothing. Those types would not ever build a plane because one day one might go down.

Fear is much worse than Anger. And the angry man will stomp the fearful man everytime.

Tokyo was not leveled by nukes, but by conventional firebombs just as Dresden was.

Jees, somefolk are really worried about our muslim friends in Iran, well guess what they are the enemy, remember the saying "Great Satan", were do you think that came from? Israel. Nope. Iran Yep.

But if it makes some folk feeeeel better, we can level fallujah with 2000 pounders. Oh wait that might be to angry, lets use 500 pounders, yes thats better.

You can always be sure that a left winger never knew anything about an Sa-7 or a B52. The SA-7a had a slant range of 3.6 km and a kill zone between 15 and 1500 meters in altitude! Please do try and back up your flights of fancy with some homework.

[Valin]

O'Reilly to call for the leveling of Fallujah?

Reason # 45,891 why Hail to the Chief isn't played when O'Reilly walks into a room.

[null and void]

On the Inhabitants of the Middle East

200 years from now, I want their children's children's children's children to cower and cringe in fear whenever they hear the sounds of jet engines overhead because their legends tell of fire from the sky. I want them to hide in dark caves and holes in the earth, shivering with terror whenever they hear the roar of diesel engines because the tales of their ancestors talk about metal monsters crawling over the earth, spitting death and destruction.

I want their mothers to be able to admonish them with "If you don't behave, the Pale Destroyers will come for you", and that will be enough to reduce them to quivering obesience.

I want the annihilation to be so complete that their mythology will tell them of the day of judgment when the stern gods from across the sea .. the powerful 'Mericans .. destroyed their forefathers' wickedness.

By Bluelancer

[GunnyB]

(... At the Battle of Agincourt the King finds that French soldiers have wantonly slain the unarmed young boys among the baggage train ...)

One of my all time favorite plays. Bush as Henry V - works for me...

[NittanyLion]

Uh huh. I just want to make sure I've got this: I'm a hypocrite because I don't want to kill innocent women in children in order to gain retribution for the killing of innocent civilians. You, meanwhile, are not registering any cognitive dissonance.

Amazing...

[NittanyLion]

You truly are a full-blown example of the Messiah Complex.

So you think I'm talking down to you - might I suggest that's more an indication of your mindset than of my words.

[NittanyLion]

Civilians were the ones parading and having great fun and entertainment while they beheaded and burned and hung our brothers. So now they must pay. Just cause your a civy don't give up protection from justifiable revenge baby.

Is that a serious comment or sarcasm?

[NittanyLion]

Yep. We're well-known for our logical, reasonable stances...*grin*

[NittanyLion]

I suspect you are an appeaser siding up to the likes of Kerry but to humor you, as I usually answer the first dumb question posed, I will offer an answer.

Yes, of course! Anyone who desires to target the guilty as narrowly as possible, and allow innocent civilians to escape our wrath, must be an appeaser!

Stop for a moment and think about what you're advocating. Your thoughts and words more closely mirror those of Saddam Hussein than President Bush. I'd suggest that if you move past the emotion and think logically about the consequences of what you propose, you'll realize the error of your ways. Good luck with that.

[FlatLandBeer]

Spec ops team goes in at night hangs saddam toutured body from same bridge...then leave with out notice.

[TheRightGuy]

Surround it first. Take NO prisoners. NO one gets out alive.....THEN level it.

First Fallujah, then France.

[b4its2late]

Good place to test a MOAB.

[Gypssy]

In my opinion, there are no innocents in that village. Daddy savages, Mommy savages and children savages that grow up to be big Terrorists.

[ConservativeMan55]

Good place to test several MOABS.

[b4its2late]

Yep. I'd settle for 1 to start. :-)

[Final Authority]

To win the war with Japan what did Truman order? Was that a good idea? Was it right to save US soldiers lives over the lives of the enemy? Do you agree with the Bush doctrine, ie, to wage war against terrorism anywhere it is found and to hold those responsible whether they are terrorists, or harbor terrorists, support terrorists or sympathize with them. How would you sort out the Iraqis? Is it your claim that the way it has been done, that is, allowing them to target our troops in ambush fire fights is the best and only way to discover their motives? It would be like a man of the house discovering an intruder in the house but not clear about what to do. He waits in the darkness, quietly, until the motives of the intruder are known by committing an unspeakable act upon a family member before the man of the house takes action. By then he is sure, but a family member is surely dead. With a clear conscience the man now can go to his child's funeral. Is this what you believe?

[davisfh]

" For the record, response is that direct targeting of innocents in a larger cause is A-OK.

For the record, response is that direct targeting of innocents in a larger cause is A-OK.

Lord have mercy

Then, we have sunk to our enemies level, and are, objectively. no better then they are.

Capice?"

Sorry to offend your sensibilities. War is understandably brutal. People get killed and stuff gets broken. Try and get over it. As for the destruction of innocents, take a look back in history. An example that immediately comes to my mind is Dresden. Certainly not a stratetically important city in WWII. It was destroyed to badly bruise the morale of Nazi Germany and it served quite well in that effort.

Neither were many of the homes that were destroyed at the end of the War for Southern Independence strategically important - but they got the torch.