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Selected Quotes: William Cohen's 911 Commission testimony at odds with Kerry and democrats?
911 Commission Transcript ^ | March 23, 2004 | William S. Cohen

Posted on 03/31/2004 12:28:20 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Statement of William S. Cohen

to

The National Commission On Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

March 23, 2004

 

I appreciate the opportunity to appear before the Commission to discuss counterterrorism

efforts of the Defense Department and the Interagency during my tenure as

Secretary of Defense.

You have posed several questions, which I will address to the best of my ability, although

I should note that in preparing this statement I have not had access to any non-public

records with regard to events that took place during this period three to eight years ago

and not all public records are easily accessible despite the internet. I have also organized

your questions and my responses in a manner that seems to be most responsive to your

objective and that reduces redundancies. [snip]

Military Options, Plans, and Operations

With regard to offensive efforts, you asked a series of overlapping questions regarding

military options, plans and operations to target Bin Laden and al Qaeda; factors affecting

decisions on using force against Bin Laden and al Qaeda; planning for the use of special

operations forces; and military actions considered or taken following the East Africa and

USS Cole attacks and the Millennium plots.

With regard to offensive efforts, you asked a series of overlapping questions regarding

military options, plans and operations to target Bin Laden and al Qaeda; factors affecting

decisions on using force against Bin Laden and al Qaeda; planning for the use of special

operations forces; and military actions considered or taken following the East Africa and

USS Cole attacks and the Millennium plots. [snip]

Following the August 1998 East Africa bombings, the ongoing flurry of non-specific

threat warnings was supplemented by more specific information, partly due to unilateral

U.S. collection of an increased level of communications among al Qaeda-affiliated

elements and partly due to increased cooperation from foreign intelligence services.

During this time, U.S. intelligence community obtained actionable intelligence on a

leadership conference that al Qaeda and other terrorist groups planned to hold on a

specific date at a specific location near Khost, Afghanistan. We believed one purpose of

the conference was to advance plans to conduct additional attacks against U.S. interests.

While we did not have a roster of who would attend this conference, the intelligence

reports indicated it would include senior leaders, quite possibly including Bin Laden.

Concurrently, the U.S. intelligence community obtained physical evidence from outside

the al-Shifa facility in Sudan that supported long-standing concerns regarding its

potential role in Sudanese chemical weapon efforts that could be exploited by al Qaeda.

The al-Shifa facility had been under surveillance for some time because of a variety of

intelligence reports, including HUMINT reports identifying it as a WMD-related facility,

indirect links between the facility and Bin Laden and the Iraqi chemical weapons

program, and extraordinary security – including surface-to-air missiles – used to protect it

during its construction. The direct physical evidence from the scene obtained at that time

convinced the U.S. intelligence community that their suspicions were correct about the

facility’s chemical weapons role and that there was a risk of chemical agents getting into

the hands of al Qaeda, whose interest in obtaining such weapons was clear.

With actionable intelligence in hand, President Clinton made the decision to attack the al

Qaeda leadership conference with the intent to kill as many participants as possible.

Simultaneously with the attack on the al Qaeda leadership conference, we would attack

and destroy the al-Shifa facility. Because of the need for tactical surprise and because of

the geographical realities of Afghanistan and Sudan being remote from U.S. operating

bases, professional military advice was to use sea-launched cruise missiles to attack the al

Qaeda leadership conference and the al-Shifa facility in Operation Infinite Reach. [snip]

The intelligence community reported afterward that Bin Laden had been at the

conference, but departed several hours before our weapons struck their target. This did

not come as a complete surprise given Bin Laden’s strict operational security practices,

including by some accounts, that he remained in any given location only for a few hours

at a time. The fact that he slipped away before the missiles arrived did not diminish my

belief that the mission was well worth having undertaken. [snip]

The U.S. was already pursuing Bin Laden and al Qaeda operatives in Afghanistan and

around the world. The President had authorized lethal force to be used if we ever had the

opportunity to get Bin Laden or other al Qaeda leaders. This was equally before and after

the Millennium, before and after the USS Cole. We already had far more than sufficient

justification to eliminate Bin Laden and his leadership structure. We did not need the

Millennium plots or the attack on the USS Cole to undertake military action – we needed

actionable intelligence that would give us a reasonable chance of getting al Qaeda

leaders. The President and the Principals determined that attacking al Qaeda’s primitive

facilities rather than attacking al Qaeda leaders would have little value in setting back al

Qaeda and would be counter-productive, both by enhancing Bin Laden’s position among

anti-American Islamic elements and by undermining foreign intelligence and other

international support for our counter-terrorism effort – all of which had proved to be so

crucial in averting hundreds of American and other deaths from the Millennium and other

terrorist plots. [snip]

As I have mentioned, President Clinton and his entire national security team devoted an

extraordinary amount of time and effort to coping with the threat. We were able to

achieve significant, albeit unheralded, successes in preventing the loss of lives here and

abroad. In addition, I would note that the Hart-Rudman Commission, on which

Congressman Hamilton served, issued a clarion call to action. Congress also created a

number of subcommittees with jurisdiction to focus upon the threat of domestic and

international terrorism. Yet, it is my judgment that at no time was there any realistic

prospect that Congress or the American people would have supported a decision to

invade Afghanistan or that our allies or countries in the region would have supported

such a decision. [snip]

The Lack of Actionable Intelligence.

The lack of actionable intelligence was the missing element in our comprehensive effort

to capture or kill Bin Laden and al Qaeda leadership.

The war against Iraq has highlighted the challenge of obtaining reliable intelligence

against a so-called “hard target.” While some charge that the Bush Administration

exaggerated or manipulated the available intelligence, the fact is that all responsible

officials from the Clinton and Bush administrations and, I believe, most Members of

Congress genuinely believed that Saddam Hussein had active WMD programs. While it

is too early to declare that belief to be entirely wrong, I think we all have been surprised

by the inability to find meaningful evidence of such active WMD programs.

As difficult an intelligence target as Saddam’s Iraq was, Islamic terrorist groups present a

much harder target. No U.N. inspectors were walking into terrorist offices, interrogating

terrorist officials or collecting hundreds of thousands of pages of terrorist documents, as

they did with in Iraq. In ways that we cannot discuss here, the fact that Iraq was far less

isolated internationally than the Taliban allowed us to exploit opportunities in Iraq that

did not exist in Afghanistan to collect information. [snip]

Capture versus Kill; “Law Enforcement versus War”

Some seek to portray counter-terrorism as a choice between law enforcement and the

exercise of military power. Likewise, some argue that a preference to capture terrorists

alive reflects a law enforcement preference rather than a military approach to counterterrorism.

Both of these views are fallacious.

Effective counter-terrorism requires effective use of all national capabilities – law

enforcement, diplomatic, intelligence, military and other capabilities – which are not

alternatives, one to be chosen to the exclusion of the others. This was the basis for

President Clinton’s counter-terrorism campaign in both the first and second

administrations. It is the basis of President Bush’s counter-terrorism campaign, as he

articulated it on September 11. No counter-terrorism effort will be 100% effective, but

an effort premised on a false dichotomy of law enforcement versus war will be far less

effective than an integrated effort.  Yet for reasons that are inexplicable, this false choice

continues to be expressed by certain critics on both left and right. [snip]

Conclusion

I have attempted to set forth some of the major initiatives under taken by the Department

of Defense to counter the threat of terrorism during the time I was privileged to serve at

the Pentagon.

As I noted, many of those initiatives proved successful in saving the lives of many of our

citizens both here and abroad. [snip]

I believe that we have been complacent as a society. We have failed to fully comprehend

the gathering storm. Even now after September 11, it is far from clear that our society

truly appreciates the gravity of the threat we face or is yet willing to do what is necessary

to counter it. Even after September 11, and after anthrax and ricin attacks in the U.S., I

remain concerned that the controversy over not finding Iraq’s weapons of mass

destruction will lead to the erroneous assumption that all the talk about the dangers of

WMD is just another exercise in the cynical exploitation of fear. After all, it is commonly

noted, there have been no attacks since 9/11. This is a dangerous delusion. The enemy is

not only coming, he has been here. He is already amongst us. He will continue to try to

examine our weaknesses, exploit the crevices in our security, and destroy our way of

living as well as our lives.

As you can deduce from my statement, I believe that the Clinton Administration far more

than any Administration prior to September 11 understood the threat that terrorists pose

to our country and took far greater and more comprehensive action to counter it than any

previous administration. But notwithstanding all this, the U.S. was hit in a devastating

way. Clearly neither the first Bush Administration, nor the two Clinton Administrations,

nor the current Bush Administration did all that we and they needed to do to prevent the

rise and spread of violent Islamic extremists and to prevent them from reaching our

shores with instruments of mass death.

Nor do I believe that even today, with a global war on terrorism being waged, are we

doing all we need to do to prevent the further spread of violent Islamic extremists and to

prevent them from reaching our shores with mass death.

I don’t pretend to hold the keys to the kingdom of wisdom on what needs to be done in

the future. All of us who have held high office must remain accountable for our actions

while holding the public trust. It is my hope that the Commission through its work will

focus as well on the fault lines that run through our democratic system as we struggle to

cope with a challenge of unprecedented proportions. [snip]

It’s a time for sober reflection and the charting of a responsible course of action. There’s

very little time to lose.

[end of statement]

FULL TRANSCRIPT HERE


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; 911commission; cohen; election2004; iraq; kerry; terrorism; testimony; transcript; williamcohen
I heard Roger Hedgecock on the Rush Limbaugh Show today play a couple of quotes from Wm Cohen's 911 Commission testimony and decided to research it a bit. Mr. Hedgecock played his comments in a segment he called, "what you won't hear reported" in the partisan media.

The above post is from Mr. Cohens written testimony. His oral testimony played on the radio today demonstrated a clear connection between Saddam/Iraq, WMD, and the al-Qaida terrorist organization.

However, even Mr. Cohen's written testimony is clearly at odds with the screaming rhetoric of democrats like Ted Kennedy regarding WMD's. It is also at odds with John Kerry's "law enforcement" approach to the War on Terror.

1 posted on 03/31/2004 12:28:21 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Thanks for posting this.

Hitchcock rocks! I wish he would take over for Rush indefinitely.
2 posted on 03/31/2004 12:37:30 PM PST by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: Howlin
Please read this post (focus on bold comments), and give it one of your pings if you think William Cohen's testimony is worth of a re-read by other FReepers.
3 posted on 03/31/2004 12:45:02 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Thanks very much - I heard the show, and now I have the link too.

It IS truly frightening, how so much information is not getting out. And this whole commission was supposed to be to find out how Americans could better protect themselves, not to be the finger-pointing exercise it has become. Whatever happened to the Democrat memo Sean Hannity talked about - indicating Democrat strategy to push the Republicans as far as they could on issues, then accuse them of stonewalling when the Republicans eventually woke up? Somehow that all got turned around as to how Republicans "stole" memos from a shared hard drive that was open to all. And Hatch let the Dems do it.

Yes, I'm mixing a lot of issues, but what I'm saying is this: I am 100% convinced that the Republicans are much better for this country, but I am NOT convinced AT ALL that the Republicans will be forceful enough in getting their message out, or in fighting back. The Dems seem to be setting the agenda. If Bush & co. can't campaign effectively enough, or if there are not enough people who educate themselves and feel as I do, then Heaven help us all.

I think the best "punishment" for liberals and Democrats would be to give them everything they THINK they want - high taxes, ineffective, "multilateral" defense, etc. That would cure most of them of their misconceptions pretty fast, IMHO. Trouble is, I would have to live in that world with them. So no thanks to that idea!

:)
4 posted on 03/31/2004 12:45:45 PM PST by cvq3842
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To: Bigg Red
"Hitchcock"

I think you mean Hedgecock ..??
5 posted on 03/31/2004 1:07:03 PM PST by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Related item:

Richard Clarke, the former counterterrorism official promoting a book critical of the Bush administration, insists Saddam Hussein had no connection to al-Qaida, but in 1999 he defended President Clinton's attack on a Sudanese pharmaceutical plant by revealing the U.S. was "sure" it manufactured chemical warfare materials produced by Iraqi experts in cooperation with Osama bin Laden.

Source

6 posted on 03/31/2004 1:07:36 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: cvq3842
"President Clinton and his entire national security team devoted an extraordinary amount of time and effort to coping with the threat"

ROTFLOL!! Ooooooh .. my sides hurt!

I've read Dick Morris' book, "Off With Their Heads", and he clearly states that Clinton had "ABSOLUTELY NO INTEREST IN FIGHTING TERROR".

I also agree that the dem memos indicate this is exactly what they were planning - a commission (utilizing the select committee on intel info) to place the blame for 9/11 on Bush - and not on Clinton. First they start with the Clarke book - in June will come an additional history rewrite by Bill Clinton, and I've heard there are assorted others; Bob Woodward for one (but Bob's other book about the first days after 9/11 - Bob later testified to Larry King that he was pleasantly surprised by Bush - and ended up liking and respecting him. The only way I could see Bob writing a hit book is because of a threat by Hillary.

I think this whole finger pointing isn't really for Bill, as much as to pave the way for Hillary. She has to be obsolved of any involvement in neglecting national security and causing 9/11 - or she will never be accepted as a presidential candidate.

The other day I was thinking that maybe this hatred of Bush came about because Hillary was planning on being able to run against Gore in 2004 - and instead, she's stuck with Bush. Liberals do not like competition. Or .. worse yet .. they were planning on off'ng Gore - and they were sure running against Lieberman for the nomination in '04 would be a cinch.

The dems want to be sure they are going to win, or they don't want to play.
7 posted on 03/31/2004 1:24:28 PM PST by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: CyberAnt
Hedgecock

Yes, thank you.
8 posted on 03/31/2004 1:38:39 PM PST by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: CyberAnt
"I think this whole finger pointing isn't really for Bill, as much as to pave the way for Hillary."


If you haven't alread read it, get a copy of "Madam Hillary". You are right on target...and the book will not only scare you to death, but very clearly set out how she probably will get elected. The brand-new liberal radio station is just one of many points in "the plan".
9 posted on 03/31/2004 3:36:04 PM PST by Maria S (Assigned parking only...all violators will be towed)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I have not been a fan of Cohens for some years now but I think he deserves credit for an honest rendering of the facts as he sees them.
10 posted on 03/31/2004 3:51:48 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Maria S
I think the only reason a story about Bill being picked for Secretary of State is just to let everybody know who's in charge - and Bill would want to be there in case Kerry won - in order to run things.

I loved the statement by the Kerry staffer that Bill would help to repair our respect around the world .. LOL! I don't know how - because it was well-known (to everyone except Bill & Kerry I guess) that other world leaders thought Bill was a total womanizing jerk.
11 posted on 03/31/2004 3:59:01 PM PST by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: CyberAnt
I just want the Republicans to set the agenda, or at least fight back. I worry that they aren't doing enough.

I also laugh at the line that "Clinton and Bush both dropped the ball, but only Bush is running now." Hey, there are two major parties. Kerry, to the extent he has any policy other than Bush-bashing, advocates a return to much of Clinton's policies. He'd probably staff his administration with lots of Clinton holdovers also. So comparing the policies is relevant.

Too bad the purpose of the commission - finding out how we could protect ourselves better - is largely lost. Even William Cohen said we STILL don't take the threat seriously enough. The Dems (or many of them) clearly think Bush is a greater danger than the terrorists.

Debate makes us stronger. But the partisan grandstanding over this issue and at this time shows that the Dems STILL "don't get it." It's more evidence that they are not to be trusted on national security.
12 posted on 04/01/2004 9:42:37 AM PST by cvq3842
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