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Marines Seek to Pacify Fallujah (Marines Seal Off Falluja)
AP via Yahoo news ^ | 31-march-2004 | HAMZA HENDAWI

Posted on 03/31/2004 6:13:30 AM PST by epluribus_2

FALLUJAH, Iraq - Newly arrived U.S. Marines are leaving no doubt as to their resolve to defeat militants. Iraqis are awed by the Americans' show of force but remain convinced that they'll fail to stamp out the insurgency in one of the most dangerous cities for American troops.

The fight against the U.S.-led occupation has strong religious undertones in Fallujah, reflecting the Sunni Muslim city's conservative nature, its reputation for piety and deep anti-U.S. sentiments.

Fallujah, some 30 miles west of Baghdad, a city so steeped in Arab and Islamic traditions that its famous kebab restaurants have the unusual feature of prayer rooms and women are rarely seen in public. It also is part of Iraq (news - web sites)'s Sunni heartland, a large swath of land that stretches north and west of the Iraqi capital where armed resistance to the U.S. occupation is fierce.

"We are all suffering from what the Americans are doing to us, but that doesn't take away anything from our pride in the resistance," said Saadi Hamadi, a 24-year-old university graduate and resident of Fallujah.

Five U.S. military personnel were killed Wednesday when a bomb exploded under their vehicle in a village near Fallujah, the U.S. military said. Inside the city, gunmen attacked two civilian cars that residents said were carrying at least four foreign nationals, including an American. The occupants of the cars were killed and their vehicles were set on fire. Their bodies were dragged in the streets.

Some of the slain men were wearing flak jackets, said Safa Mohammedi, a resident. The identities of the slain men were unclear. One resident displayed what appeared to be dog tags taken from one body.

U.S. military commanders, however, say the insurgents and their supporters in the city of 500,000 are a minority and most people are tired of the violence.

The California-based 1st Marine Expeditionary Force assumed responsibility for the city from the Army's 82nd Airborne Division in a troop rotation on March 24.

Two days later, Marines and insurgents fought a lengthy street battle in the city's working-class al-Askari district that killed one Marine and wounded seven others. Five Iraqis, including a freelance ABC News cameraman, also died.

Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, deputy chief of U.S. military operations in Iraq, on Tuesday blamed the violence in Fallujah on insurgents trying to test the willingness of the Marines to fight so soon after their arrival. A total of eight Marines have been killed in two weeks.

On Tuesday, the Marines used tanks and armored fighting vehicles to block the main exits and entrances to Fallujah for the fourth day running. They lifted their blockade on Wednesday.

The deployment forced thousands of motorists off the main roads and onto bumpy dirt tracks where traffic moved slowly under the watchful eyes of soldiers crouching in the sand behind their guns or atop military vehicles. Other Marines dug foxholes along the route, while some took partially concealed positions behind bushes and sand berms.

Tanks trained their guns on the al-Askari district. Residents also said Marines rolled through the neighborhood and shouted warnings in Arabic through a bullhorn against harboring insurgents.

Several families heeded the warning and left, according to residents who stayed behind.

The Marines also reportedly staged door-to-door house raids in search of weapons and suspected insurgents on Monday night and again on Tuesday.

The Marines issued a statement Saturday, saying they were "conducting offensive operations ... to foster a secure and stable environment for the people."

"If they find more than one adult male in any house, they arrest one of them," claimed resident Khaled Jamaili, 26. "Those Marines are destroying us. They are leaning very hard on Fallujah."

House raids have been a sore point with Iraqis, and are viewed as a violation of women's privacy. Many believed that the Marines would drop the tactic and apply a "soft touch" to win over Iraqis, showing more cultural sensitivity than their predecessors in Fallujah.

But Lt. Gen. James T. Conway, who commands the Marine forces in the area, said his men received cultural training before coming to Iraq and some of them took intensive Arabic language courses.

But he said that only when the insurgency ended would a "soft approach" be used.

"You will see that soft approach when we can walk the streets feeling safe and not risking being attacked," Conway told reporters last week. "Essentially our mission is to create stabilization and security."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1stmef; crackdown; fallujah; gettough; iraq; marines; semperfi
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To: Da Mav
You and I think alike. Bring back NAPALM!
21 posted on 03/31/2004 7:00:24 AM PST by B4Ranch (Most Of Us Are Wasting Rights Other Men Fought and Died For!)
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To: Alberta's Child
This occupation is no different than what the US conducted in Germany and Japan in the post WWII period, and the enemy no less defined.
22 posted on 03/31/2004 7:04:07 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: NC28203
Thats what I don't understand...Saddam hated these people and killed as many as he could. Just proves my point that Islam is a religion of terror no matter who is in charge no matter who is trying to help!!!! I agree level the town and lets make dragging our soldiers through the street a very painful lesson.
23 posted on 03/31/2004 7:06:48 AM PST by PaulaB
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To: SoCal Pubbie
This occupation is no different than what the US conducted in Germany and Japan in the post WWII period, and the enemy no less defined.

The difference today is that the American public has the attention span of an infant. This is why the U.S. is adamant about turning over control of the country to "the Iraqis" three months from today -- even though we have no idea who the hell these "Iraqis" are.

24 posted on 03/31/2004 7:06:56 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE north strong and free.)
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To: epluribus_2
Sounds like the Iraqis in Falluja misinterpreted the Marine approach. With the Marines, it's the stick first, and then the carrot. These guys are beating their heads against a brick wall if they think they can out tough the Marines.
25 posted on 03/31/2004 7:16:12 AM PST by McGavin999 (Evil thrives when good men do nothing!)
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To: TXBSAFH; thoughtomator; petercooper; B4Ranch
Nukes? Napalm? Firebombs?

That would "keep our honor clean"?

The reason we don't nuke, napalm, and firebomb Fallujah is because we are superior to those who would do so. Fallujah is a tough nut and will remain so for quite some time. That doesn't mean we should abandon our principles.
26 posted on 03/31/2004 7:17:45 AM PST by murdocj (Murdoc Online - Everyone is entitled to my opinion (http://www.murdoconline.net))
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To: Alberta's Child
The most destructive trend in U.S. foreign policy over the last 50 years has been our willingness to carry out half-@ssed military campaigns against "enemies" who aren't clearly defined.

In case you haven't noticed, these are the only enemies who aren't nuclear-armed.

27 posted on 03/31/2004 7:21:29 AM PST by Tallguy (Cannot rate this Reserve Freepers fitness: Not observed on this thread.)
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To: epluribus_2
"We are all suffering from what the Americans are doing to us, but that doesn't take away anything from our pride in the resistance," said Saadi Hamadi, a 24-year-old university graduate and resident of Fallujah.

Dear Saadi Hamadi, your name is duly noted.

28 posted on 03/31/2004 7:43:29 AM PST by Ben Chad
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To: epluribus_2
Other than being about a year overdue...
29 posted on 03/31/2004 7:45:05 AM PST by Publius6961 (50.3% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks (subject to a final count).)
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To: McGavin999
They think they can out tough the american voters. Nuff said. That's why the marines have to kill them, first, because they are probably right. (Beirut? Somalia?)
30 posted on 03/31/2004 8:12:10 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: Ben Chad
I think snipers is the way to go there. Instill some fear into the populace, when any of these "junior jihadis" gather in groups in the street, just have one of them picked off by one of our snipers. instill some fear in the others by seeing they can be taken out at any time.
31 posted on 03/31/2004 8:15:59 AM PST by oceanview
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To: murdocj
Evidently you weren't in Nam. Napalm airstrikes saved a lot of our soldiers butts, mine included.
32 posted on 03/31/2004 8:36:42 AM PST by B4Ranch (Most Of Us Are Wasting Rights Other Men Fought and Died For!)
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To: B4Ranch
You're right. I wasn't in Nam.

I guess it depends on who you're going to napalm. If the targets are legitimate military targets, let them have it.

Nuking, firebombing, or napalming civilians is wrong and isn't going to help. That's what I meant. I was responding to the "nuke them" and "level the place comments".

For my two cents on napalm check out http://www.murdoconline.net/archives/000393.html if interested.
33 posted on 03/31/2004 9:21:54 AM PST by murdocj (Murdoc Online - Everyone is entitled to my opinion (http://www.murdoconline.net))
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To: goldstategop
That would be difficult since the Hymn has only three verses but those Iraqis will indeed learn the same lesson that the Germans did at Belleau Wood.
34 posted on 03/31/2004 9:38:01 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Alberta's Child
The difference today is that the American public has the attention span of an infant.

The difference today is that we have several 24-hour news channels that are in constant need of material to fill the spaces between ads that pay for their broadcast. Add to that mindless idiots like Imus and you end up with (a) the SOS over and over again and (b) blathering handwringing about nothing being done about any of this.

35 posted on 03/31/2004 10:20:55 AM PST by onehipdad
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To: epluribus_2
They have pictures of those people who were desecrating the bodies.

The policy should be: Nobody goes in, nobody goes out of the town until they give them up.
36 posted on 03/31/2004 10:21:32 AM PST by wildbill
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To: murdocj
These animals qualify in my eyes as "legitimate military targets,"

Let them have it! That goes for the young punks too.
37 posted on 03/31/2004 10:42:35 AM PST by B4Ranch (Most Of Us Are Wasting Rights Other Men Fought and Died For!)
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To: oceanview
At this point I'm fine with ANYTHING the Marines wish to do.
ANYTHING. I want revenge now.
38 posted on 03/31/2004 10:49:21 AM PST by txhurl
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To: B4Ranch
Napalm airstrikes on civilians saved your butt?
39 posted on 03/31/2004 10:56:33 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Are you ignorant of the Viet Cong? Uniforms was the last thing they would wear!
40 posted on 03/31/2004 11:46:17 AM PST by B4Ranch (Most Of Us Are Wasting Rights Other Men Fought and Died For!)
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