Four 'foreign nationals' gunned down in Iraq (Not Pretty)

Irish Examiner (Via Matt Drudge) ^

[Happy2BMe]

Four 'foreign nationals' gunned down in Iraq
31/03/2004 - 10:18:38 AM

At least four people, thought to be foreign nationals, were killed when their vehicles came under fire in the Iraqi town of Fallujah today.

Eye witnesses said angry crowds dragged the bodies through the streets, dismembered them and hanged some of the mutilated corpses.

The attack happened at about the same time as a bomb exploded under a US military in the Fallujah region, killing five soldiers.

It was not known whether the two incidents were related.

The gunmen attacked the civilians as they drove by in two civilian 4x4 cars in Fallujah.

The occupants of the cars were killed and their vehicles were set on fire.

Footage from Associated Press Television News showed a charred body of one of the dead men, and the vehicles in flames nearby. Some of the men were wearing flak jackets, said Safa Mohammedi, a resident.

Another resident, Abdul Aziz Mohammed, said angry crowds dragged the bodies through the streets, dismembered them and hanged some of the mutilated corpses.

“The people of Fallujah hanged some of the bodies on the old bridge like slaughtered sheep,” Mohammed said. “I saw it myself.”

One resident displayed what appeared to be dog-type tags taken from one body. Residents also said there were weapons in the targeted cars.

The explosive device that killed the American soldiers blew up when their vehicle ran over it in the Fallujah area, US Army Colonel Jill Morgenthaler said in Baghdad.

[VeniVidiVici]

I've said it before and I'll say it again; Fallujah needs to be emptied out and its residents sent to internment camps up in northern Iraq.

After being interviewed/interrogated they should be resettled throughout the country.

Or Antarctica. Take your pick.

[faithincowboys]

You're so right. The town of Fallujah needs to be taught a lesson. I say we level the sewer.

[faithincowboys]

Good idea, when in the Hell will your plan be implemented??

[MarMema]

Same reason the Balkan and Chechnya Muslims filmed their snuff videos of grisly beheadings and tortures. To scare the other guy's military away or at minimum to take only safe ineffective actions, to hole up in his garrison a la the UN blue helmet idiots.

I just posted on another thread these comparisons, between the chechens and KLA and the "people" here. I am not sure it is only a scare tactic. I think they are so incredibly filled with evil that they enjoy mutilations, and I suspect the pics and videos are a source of prolonging the enjoyment. I used to monitor a chechen list where video discussion seemed to be very enjoyable for them, and I don't mean movies. They were discussing videos of killing and torture, call them snuff films, commonly known as they had been sold enmasse in Grozny. Before the Russians nearly leveled the place, that is. (Go Russia).

In short, I think sadism is second nature to these people. I recall the chechen chuckling in a very spontaneous way as his friend cut into the throat of the Russian.

Most literature will tell you that only a psychopath can truly enjoy these kinds of behaviors. After watching the video from chechnya I surprised myself by nearly vomiting. Can you imagine the smell of these charred bodies, and the actual close-up views of what they are doing?

There is something here which needs to be studied or explained. Why are there such strong similarities between all of these people and what makes them take such strong pleasure in death, mutilation, and grisly things?

I am thinking they enjoy sharing their grisly behaviors in order to shock us, but this is also a common behavior of a psychopath.

[Monkey Face]

I notice MeneMeneTekelUpharsin was very verbal in Post ##'s 17, 25, 32, 42, 44, and 46....and then he just sat back and watched the fireworks, so-to-speak.

Sorta reminds me of my late ex-husband. He was a coward at heart, which was why he always disappeared when the going got tough and the tough were doing his job.

The people (and I use the term loosely) that are committing the atrocities and terrorist attacks are victims of propaganda. They don't understand that a truly great nation doesn't need to use such tactics to remain great, but they have no other education.

When a person is raised in a poor country, the simple freedom of being given a proper education is not even considered...they only do what they know.

It is too bad that with his education, this MMTU still has no concept of life as it really is. His arrogance is right up there with the arrogance of the people committing the atrocities.

[John Frum]

Its only a sign of Islam, at its best. Islam, the religion of peace, SARCASM.

[Eva]

A freeper (genefromjersey) posted a link to his blog on this subject on another thread and since he hasn't posted the article on FreeRepublic, here it is:(remember, to credit genefromJersey, not me)

Wednesday, March 31, 2004
ATROCITY IN FALLUJAH RAISES QUESTIONS

This morning,2 unarmored,unescorted vehicles were ambushed in Fallujah,in the heart of the "Sunni Triangle" - a location where Ba'ath Party loyalists and al-Qaeda terrorists have joined forces to conduct almost constant attacks on US troops,civilian contractors,and civilians attached to the military government.

At least 3 - possibly as many as 8 people-all wearing civilian clothes,were killed in the ambush. A crowd of 150 men:cheering, and chanting Islamic slogans,set the vehicles on fire,mutilated burned bodies,dragged at least 2 bodies through the streets behind a car,and hung 2 of the victims' bodies from a bridge.

One thing that makes this especially notable is that most of this after-ambush activity was photographed by an AP camera team. ( I'll come back to that point later.)

My suspicion-at this time- is that the victims were part of a WMD search team. Witnesses at the scene have indicated 2 of the victims were wearing flak jackets,and may have been armed with rifles. One victim is said to have been carrying a DOD identification card.

Fallujah was the site of one of Saddam Hussein's WMD facilities: FALLUJAH II . A 2002 CIA report indicates precursor chemicals for nerve gas,choking agents,etc. were manufactured here, and there was a plant for the extraction of Ricin from castor oils. It was also believed materials for biowarfare were produced here.

The US has sent WMD teams into this and other areas,but they have come under such intense attack,most of the search activity has been scaled back. Recent news reports indicate the teams have resumed their search; and, since this is a prime area to search for clues,I suspect the victims were doing just that.

There are some very troubling aspects to this morning's attack.

1. While "impromptu" ambushes are not uncommon, the successful ambush of moving vehicles generally requires advance knowledge of anticipated route.

2. The presence of an eager mob at the ambush site also suggests advance knowledge. To get that many people assembled first thing in the morning takes a bit of advance planning.

3. This brings me to the camera crew. The fact they were there at the scene , suggests they had foreknowledge. The fact they were able to film away without being molested suggests they had prior approval from the organizers of the ambush. ( A lot of the media TV crews are local people,working under contract. )


This morning's atrocities seem to have fulfilled many aims:

1. Increasing the "body bag count", so as to dismay American voters,and to persuade them to elect a candidate (such as John Kerry) more to the terrorists' liking.

2. Terrorizing the local population;

3. Creating dismay among civilian employees;

4. Keeping WMD inspectors away from sensitive areas;

5. Getting and maintaining media coverage. ¶ 7:00 AM
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[Happy2BMe]

"Take your pick . .

[olde north church]

It's not so much sadism as it truly is a depraved indifference to human life. In most places around the world, there isn't a struggle between life and death, it's a matter of now and then.
This isn't an apology or explanation it's statement of fact.
Everything is public relations, if these deaths go unanswered you may as well hang it up, they will think we are weak.
Solution, obliterate Fallujah and give some type of reward to Kurds. Play ball with us, we play ball with you. Lessons like that generally only have to be taught once, factoring in stupididy.

[Happy2BMe]

Muslim Youth to Launch Martyrdom Operations Against the U.S.

Hey You, Infidel! A young Muslim man, who refused to give his name, shows his feelings toward the media outside the Federal Court House in Buffalo, New York September 18, 2002 where he sat to show his support for the six local suspected al-Qaida supporters who appeared inside the court, September 18, 2002. The six men have been charged with providing material support to al Queda from nearby Lackwanna, New York.

[WV Mountain Mama]

I love the picture of the guy setting himself on fire. I remember it being made into one of those priceless type commercials.

[txhurl]

sickened bump

[Hatteras]

I was at a job fair back in February and one guy there said that they had a huge construction project in Iraq and were looking for engineers, designers and PMs. I told him, "Heck, I'll go, can I arm myself? Of course, it might get pretty expensive..."

We both laughed about it but he said the company is completey responsible for the security and protection of it's employees. As a matter of fact, he was just recently back from Baghdad and was returning in mid-March for 3 months. He also said that they would make it very much worth my while financially.

He gave me his card and asked me to forward my resume to him directly and he would like to talk with me further. I did but I never heard back from him. I'll be curious to see the list of names and the company these people were working for.

[boxerblues]

My comments would be get me banned for life.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

What's unfortunate is, you a quite possible correct.

I KNOW that I am correct. Absolutely no doubt about it. This nation has lost its moral backbone. Therefore, unless you take their beer and porn away, they're not ready to fight for anything.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Well post your ideas here, Mr. problem solver. You admonish folks here for not doing anything. Why not let your solutions be known publically?

I'm not stupid. I just tell it like it is. We can't discipline criminals (they kill, we let them out of jail), we don't make children mind anymore (lawyers come running), we are obsessed with alcohol and porn, and last of all, we seek out and punish those who propose the only solutions that will work.

You see, people who know me didn't respond to this dialogue. They knew they were being set up. Federal agents...that's agents were already getting in place to reseach and find out who I am. They determined they had a domestic terrorism plot going and were working diligently to seek, find and neutralize the source of this diatribe. Too funny. When someone proposes upholding justice, right and punishment of wrongdoers, the government springs into action.

You don't believe me? LOL. I worked for the Federal government for TWO agencies. I know them like the back of my hand. They only exist to serve the "Socialist" crowd. Anyone who supports working for a living, reward right and punishing wrong simply doesn't fit into the plan they have for this country. They're not going to do anything in Iraq to stop this killing. The government does not have the will to stop the killing. They do, however, have the will to seek out and interview someone posting what I've posted and I know it. They WILL leave no stone unturned to make sure I am not a threat. But, stop the killing in Iraq? LOL...not going to happen.

[GeorgiaYankee]

I have 3 words for Fallujah: FREE FIRE ZONE!

[rintense]

Ok, but you still haven't posted what YOU would do. You can be the biggest pessimist in the world, but when you accuse folks on this forum of being passive, you'd damn well better put your money where your mouth is. Right now, all you've done is bash folks here AND the government.

I'mk still waiting for YOU to post your solution.

[rintense]

Ok, but you still haven't posted what YOU would do. You can be the biggest pessimist in the world, but when you accuse folks on this forum of being passive, you'd damn well better put your money where your mouth is. Right now, all you've done is bash folks here AND the government.

I'm still waiting for YOU to post your solution.

[dennisw]

I used to monitor a chechen list where video discussion seemed to be very enjoyable for them, and I don't mean movies. They were discussing videos of killing and torture, call them snuff films, 

Can't say I'm surprised with the Musli

commonly known as they had been sold enmasse in Grozny. Before the Russians nearly leveled the place, that is. (Go Russia).

In short, I think sadism is second nature to these people. I recall the chechen chuckling in a very spontaneous way as his friend cut into the throat of the Russian.

Definitely that's one good reason for Muslims making their snuff videos of their Jihadis killing Russians and others in tortuous ways. This form of Islam is close to black magic. Where the practitioners know how to, and like to feed off the "juice", the "energies" emanating from the suffering person. Closely allied to Satanic and paganistic child sacrifices.