High Court Permits Foster Photos Withheld

NY Post ^ | March 30, 2004 | GINA HOLLAND

[FreeTheHostages]

Actually, this post betrays a lack of familiarity with the operative law. There's an exception to disclosure under the FOIA for privacy, and that is what the Court found -- not family sorrow but family privacy -- to apply here. The Court was not construing the Constitution and it was not reading a new exception into the FOIA. It was construing a preexisting exception to FOIA disclosure.

All reasonable people of even passing familiarity with this case are aware of that. So I shan't continue the discussion with you.

[Wallace T.]

Having suspicions regarding the death of Vince Foster based on reasonable doubt does not mean one must believe in one of the macro-conspiracy theories. There are, and always have been, micro-conspiracies. The failed attempts on Castro's life in the early 1960s, the successful coups against Diem in South Vietnam in 1963 and Allende in Chile in 1973 are micro-conspiracies, and the drugs for guns method of financing the Nicaraguan Contra in the 1980s are a few examples of micro-conspiracies conducted or assisted by the CIA or Federal officials that were denied by the official spokesmen of those times. You don't have to believe stories about Masons, Jesuits, Zionists, Illuminati, Skull and Bones members, or lizard men planning to rule the world forever to recognize that corruption exists and that not all is what the news media reports.

If Foster did commit suicide when and where the official reports say he did, all the details should comport with this hypothesis. Many details, such as the absence of dirt from his shoes and clothing, the nature of his wounds, etc., do not. A government report is not Holy Writ, no matter who is the author. Republicans may be better in many respects than Democrats, but membership in the GOP does not equate to secular sainthood. Remember the Grant, Harding, and Nixon administrations? Just because Kenneth Starr signed off on a suicide verdict does not mean we can say "Rome has spoken, the matter is ended."

We know that Hillary Clinton's henchmen purloined hundreds, maybe thousands, of FBI files. Who knows what potentially career-ending information those files contained? Furthermore, if the worst imaginable scenario did occur, that President Clinton did order Foster killed and the assassins bungled the job, it would be immensely destabilizing to our government and society if it were known that the President was acting like a Mafia don. The press and politicians across the spectrum remained very quiet about President Kennedy's sexual appetites and drug problems for similar reasons. Perhaps Starr had what are known as "reasons of state" for signing off on the suicide verdict.

The best way to dispel speculation about conspiracies is to place all the information before the public. Much of the speculation regarding Roosevelt's foreknowledge of the Pearl Harbor attack could have been dispelled had all records been made public. The Japanese Empire is long gone; the cryptography technology of the 1940s is about as relevant in the 2000s as is the manufacturing technology for smoothbore muskets. Stonewalling doesn't work as a means of procuring support for a "blue ribbon commission." A majority of Americans do not support the findings of the Warren Commission on President Kennedy's death despite almost seamless support from the mainstream media and the two major political parties.

[ml/nj]

I don't think the Clintons had him killed

Naive.

It was either the Clintons or someone they are beholden to in the Arkansas Mafia. No one other than the President had the power to cover up his murder, and he would have to have had a motive to do so.

ML/NJ

[exnavy]

It is interesting to read the many coments posted here. Personally, I think Hitlery popped ole Vince herself. We will never know.

[ml/nj]

Foster may have shot himself .. but IMO .. he didn't do it in that park

Not very likely.

Don't you think the body movers would have moved the gun too?

ML/NJ

[ml/nj]

It sounds like you two have a pretty good case even without the photos. I'm guessing that other official investigative information is available even though the photos aren't, right?

You are quite correct.

The best source I know of is Sprunt's CIR (Hugh Sprunt's Citizen's Independent Report). It is long, but you can get a feeling for it just by reading the "Executive Summary" near the beginning.

ML/NJ

[ml/nj]

the careful work of independent counsel Ken Starr

Are you aware that the three judge panel that appointed Starr ordered an appendix be issued to the report his office wrote about the Foster death which basically indicates that the Starr Report is false? The papers didn't cover it but if you ordered the report from the GPO, as I did, you got a copy.

See the Complete Starr Report and scroll past the first 114 pages which offer no exhibits, to the appendix. (The appendix does contain exhibits.)

ML/NJ

[ml/nj]

I think Hitlery popped ole Vince herself. We will never know.

Actually we do know.

The Commodities Scam Queen was en route back from the West Coast when Foster's body was found. She made a curious unscheduled stop in Little Rock that night which was the subject of a WSJ editorial.

ML/NJ

[Hardastarboard]

Of course there's a survivor in this suicide. It's Hillary. I'm sure I'm only the fifteenth observer of this idea in this thread.

[jeffo]

The Dale Earnhardt pictures were never released, but 'tis a completely different thing. The matter in question of Earnhardt was blame allocation and perhaps a civil lawsuit should a piece of safety equipment be found to be faulty.

This was, and should be, a murder investigation until such time as incontrovertible evidence is received that it was suicide. And Hillary saying its so does not make for incontrovertible evidence.

[freekitty]

I believe the Clintons may have had a hand in it because there are too many people associated with them that have expired one way or another. Why not Mr. Foster?

[T'wit]

>> Let the conspiracy talk end

I'd rather hear the truth, no matter how noble government investigations may seem.

[alrea]

Can will still find out why HILLARY had Vince's office cleared out and re-carpeted immediate after his death?

She wanted to insure that his replacement didn't have fashion shock in the new diggs.

[InterceptPoint]

Well the Supremes did a Jack Nickelson on Allan Favish.

Too bad. He wasted a lot of his own time on this and he should have seen what was coming at him. In the end the Establishment protected the Establishment. That's all it is. You don't have to know the law to predict Supreme Court votes. I don't and I'm 95% accurate. It is just another American political institution.

We will never know what happened to Vince Foster.

[CyberAnt]

I agree with you - after 11 years, if the family hasn't moved on - they're in serious trouble.

But .. the family may have made the stink about the photos because they were told they had to - if they didn't want to join Foster. We'll probably not know the truth about this for many more years.

[PGalt]

We KNOW Jerry Parks WAS NOT A SUICIDE.

[T'wit]

> The Commodities Scam Queen was en route back from the West Coast when Foster's body was found.

Yes, she was. But I found a contemporary newspaper story that is chilling. HRC was scheduled to be in Calfornia all week lobbying for her health care plan. But suddenly -- the day before Foster's death -- she cancelled all of her engagements without explanation and headed back, via Little Rock. I believe she was told he would die.

[Citizen Soldier]

I recall that the gun was found by or in his right hand - yet Foster was lefthanded.....hmmm.....................

[dirtboy]

I believe the Clintons may have had a hand in it because there are too many people associated with them that have expired one way or another. Why not Mr. Foster?

Because of their reaction immediately afterwards. Recall that the Park Police were held at bay until Hillary's records were removed from Vince Foster's office - a very risky move. If the Clintons had any foreknowledge of the event, IMO they would have gotten those records out before the body was discovered.