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Why Did it Have to be … Guns?
Webley Page ^ | March 30,2004 | Neil Smith

Posted on 03/30/2004 6:15:38 AM PST by Shooter 2.5

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The Second guards the rest. My out of state relatives didn't seem to understand that. I wasn't as concise as this author.
1 posted on 03/30/2004 6:15:39 AM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: Shooter 2.5
>>The Second guards the rest.<<

Amen.

BTW, what's a "four-flusher???"

Semper Fi

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2 posted on 03/30/2004 6:18:58 AM PST by viaveritasvita ("When Love takes you in, everything changes.")
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To: *bang_list; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; neverdem; Squantos
I think the gun owners are starting to falter this election. They're starting to dislike Bush more than they should hate Kerry.
3 posted on 03/30/2004 6:21:40 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: viaveritasvita
An actual Flush in poker consists of 5 cards of the same suit. If you have 5 consecutive cards of the same suit, it's a Straight Flush, and if those 5 cards run from 10 thru Ace, it's called a Royal Flush.

A cheating Four Flusher will show his hand, with only four cards of the same suit, and the 5th card obscured in such a way that anyone taking only a quick glance will think it's a true 5-card flush.

4 posted on 03/30/2004 6:22:33 AM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: Shooter 2.5
BUMP. Excellent article.
5 posted on 03/30/2004 6:24:23 AM PST by Constitution Day (Over 140,000 FReepers, and just about all of us will be going pro in something other than politics.)
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BTW, what's a "four-flusher???"

Based on my 1950's Saturday morning cowboy show, I think it has to do with a person who cheats at Cards.

Noun 1. four-flusher - a person who tries to bluff other people

6 posted on 03/30/2004 6:25:44 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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He's a professional, a science fiction author. All of his "North American/Solar Confederacy" books are excellent. My favorite is "The Nagasaki Vector" which is hilarious.

-Eric

7 posted on 03/30/2004 6:26:04 AM PST by E Rocc (Democrats are to the economy what Round-up is to grass.)
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Thanks. It was linked to a conservative website and when I tried to post it the first time, FR said it didn't want any articles from them. Ooh, kay.

Since it was well written, I did a search and found it on his website. I learned something. I'll go to the source each time I post.
8 posted on 03/30/2004 6:32:05 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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Thanks. I just did a short cruise through his website. I was wondering why he called it the "Webley Page".

Darn, I just have to own a top break Webley one of these days.
9 posted on 03/30/2004 6:36:22 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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BTW, what's a "four-flusher???

Well I learned something new. I though it had to something to do with those awful 2.5 gallon toilets.

10 posted on 03/30/2004 6:40:34 AM PST by palmer (Solutions, not just slogans -JFKerry)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Careful, L. Neil just might make a libertarian out of you. ;-)

For political writings, he's a knock out. If you want to know how a libertarianized society would handle some of the weirded out scenarios the detractors throw at them, his books expose the detractors hypocrisy and dishonesty almost flawlessly. His Henry Martin books are wonderful space opera. If you are looking for pure poetry however, stick to Shakespear, Chaucer, and Poe.

11 posted on 03/30/2004 6:45:45 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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Anyone know what the NRA has in mind this election? It delivered TN and WV to Bush last time. Where are they now?
12 posted on 03/30/2004 6:50:31 AM PST by Sybeck1
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Response to Neil Smith:

Do you agree that certain people, such as convicted felons and involuntarily committed sociopaths, should not have the right to possess firearms? If so, how can you demonstrate that you are not in fact such a person without showing identification?

I understand the concept of not punishing the innocent with the guilty, but I also understand the need to ensure that the guilty receive the punishment they deserve. Civil rights are not absolute - they may be taken away by a court of law. Otherwise, putting someone in prison would violate his rights to liberty and pursuit of happiness.
13 posted on 03/30/2004 6:54:38 AM PST by RebelBanker (Negotiate? [BANG] Anybody else want to negotiate?)
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To: Dead Corpse
Careful, L. Neil just might make a libertarian out of you. ;-)

Only during the primaries.

BTW, my son is a Libertarian. I guess I raised him right. ;) As long as he's voting Libertarian in Texas, it shouldn't matter that much but he won't vote like that during a close political fight.

He married into a dem/green family. We took their daughter out shooting before they were married and she loved it.

14 posted on 03/30/2004 6:55:23 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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"If a politician isn't perfectly comfortable with the idea of his average constituent, any man, woman, or responsible child, walking into a hardware store and paying cash -- for any rifle, shotgun, handgun, machinegun, anything -- without producing ID or signing one scrap of paper, he isn't your friend no matter what he tells you. "

That goes for the govm't employees that lobby against Freedom also.

15 posted on 03/30/2004 6:59:31 AM PST by spunkets
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Anyone enjoying our country's freedoms should have all Rights as a citizen. Break the law and your freedom and Rights are confiscated.

After a person completes their sentence, all Rights should be restored. If a person is still a danger to the community, why would they be allowed back on the street? Our punishments should be exact enough so a person released from prison should be able to walk into the nearest gunshop to buy any firearm they can afford.
16 posted on 03/30/2004 7:01:20 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Good article, makes sense.
17 posted on 03/30/2004 7:02:50 AM PST by GigaDittos ("Vote Democrat, it's easier than getting a job")
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To: Shooter 2.5
A right is the sovreignty to act without permission.

Up for another Postal?
18 posted on 03/30/2004 7:15:29 AM PST by NY.SS-Bar9
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Another Freeper Postal match? Sounds like a lot of fun. Sign me up. Thanks.
19 posted on 03/30/2004 7:22:41 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: RebelBanker
Do you agree that certain people, such as convicted felons and involuntarily committed sociopaths, should not have the right to possess firearms?

If they are that dangerous, why are we letting them back out on the streets? Once your punishment is done, you should get your Rights back.

Also, since recidivism DOES seem to be a problem for certain types of predators, doesn't that just re-enforce the idea that we should all take steps (ie; arm ourselves) to keep from being a victim? Who would a criminal fear more? A judge who sends them to Club Fed? Or the angry homeowner armed with a 12 gauge at point blank range?

80 million gun owners broke no laws yesterday. Vanishingly few will break any law of any type today. Why punish them or treat them like criminals?

20 posted on 03/30/2004 7:22:53 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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