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Terri Schiavo Hospitalized With Apparent Puncture Wounds In Arm! Apparent Foul Play!
WFTV-ABC in Orlando | UNK

Posted on 03/30/2004 4:38:13 AM PST by MindBender26

In 7:25 break, anchor reported "Terri Schiavo was rushed to a Pinellas County emergency room last night after nursing home staff noticed puncture wounds on her arm. The wounds appeared to be caused by a hypodermic needle! Toxicology tests were conducted but the results are not available yet!"

This could open a huge new round in this case. What did tests reveal? Who was last person in room? When was husband there? Was staffer trying the Angle of Death routine?

This will be developing hard all day!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: cultofterri; deathculture; homicide; killermike; michaelschiavo; paranoia; recklessspeculation; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler; terrisfight; vegetable
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To: MindBender26
A comment was made earlier in the thread about the Schiavo's and their selection of an attorney. In situations like their's, there are no attorneys conservative or otherwise, waiting in line to help these folks. In that regard, with all the notoriety and publicity the selection of attorneys and their ability to pay, has much improved. Also, the court is going to be a little more careful to make decisions which are actually based in the law because they know people are watching. Therefore, I do not agree that the great deal of work done by the many good folks on this forum and elsewhere has either been hurtful or for naught.

That the possibility that some shrewder and sounder strategy exists which could be implemented to further assist the Schiavo's in this matter toward a successful resolution is likely. You offered some specific criticism and some vague solutions, have you had the time to put together a more detailed comprehensive strategy and if so what is it?

541 posted on 03/31/2004 7:19:58 PM PST by TOUGH STOUGH (A vote for George W. Bush IS a vote for principle!)
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To: MindBender26
MB, if this family wants to dance with the one that "brung them" that's their decision. If you can help in other ways do so but come on, this my way or the high way getting boring! We all do what we can in our own way. To me, it's one day at a time with Terri. It's called faith. Some days we didn't know if she would make Christmas and then her birthday. Now it's almost Easter. You seem to have her best interests at heart. Can't you work with us as a team? If I see you making progress you count that I'll be right there supporting you but stop alienating us little people. You might need us someday:')
542 posted on 03/31/2004 7:26:52 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: TOUGH STOUGH
A plan was forwarded to "a5478" who is a FReeper and friend of the family. I don't want to post it publicly here, as I'm sure other side lurks.

Have offered to work pro bono for a short time to kick it off.
543 posted on 03/31/2004 7:26:55 PM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, news first, fast, 5 minutes sooner, stay tuned to FReeper Radio!)
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To: CindyDawg
Cindy, please see 543.

Don't mean to be down on others. Your effort is greatly appreciated, on earth and above, but effort without direction and a plan is useless.... and often counterproductive.

My work schedule is currently a week in Orlando, a week in DC, then a week in Rome or Tel Aviv (no, I'm not Jewish) then it begins all over again.

I'll be glad to come to St. Pete to help you kick off an EFFECTIVE program, but you guys have to carry the water. I simply won't have the time to work a long campaign, which this will be.

After the first visit or two, I'll be available by phone, but you folks will need to be the engine driving this.

Be well.
544 posted on 03/31/2004 7:37:56 PM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, news first, fast, 5 minutes sooner, stay tuned to FReeper Radio!)
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To: cyn; Darksheare; floriduh voter; Pegita
where are yall? :')
545 posted on 03/31/2004 7:48:22 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: MindBender26

546 posted on 03/31/2004 7:59:05 PM PST by russesjunjee
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To: MindBender26
Clarification:
I am not a friend of the family - though they are in my heart - I don't know them personally.
I activate fervently on behalf of Terri and am open to suggestions for directions to take.
I absolutely recognize the value of what has been done thus far and by whom - It's why Terri finally has some national notoriety.
In hearing what MB26 has to say - I think perhaps he has experience in similar matters and perhaps discussion along these lines is valuable. I have forwarded all info to those who seem to be on the front line.
547 posted on 03/31/2004 8:10:00 PM PST by a5478 (a5478)
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To: russesjunjee
In case you can accept a harsh dose of reality, this is a copy of a St. Pete Times article a Terri supporter just sent me. Her niece goes to the school in question and says the parents are outraged by the conduct of the people who say they want to support Terri, but are doing nothing but angering the polulace.

Remember, this came from someone who loves terri, but hates what the fools are doing to kill public support for her.

OPEN OPEN OPEN STPETETIMES 223003971699932A

St. Petersburg Times - - Pinellas County Section B-3

"There is no way around it.

Cross Bayou Elementary School and Woodside Hospice House are side by side on a dead-end street, 102nd Avenue in Pinellas Park. To get to the school, you must pass the hospice, which these days means facing the knot of protesters in front of the place where Terri Schiavo lies dying, while legislators in Tallahassee debate her fate.

You must see the sign scolding Gov. Jeb Bush for failing to save Schiavo and the other sign that calls for the removal of Pinellas Circuit Judge George Greer, who ruled against her parents.

There are times, I am told, when the signs speak of killing and murder.

The proximity of hospice and school has created a terrible conflict - not between the right to die and the right to live, but over what to tell the children.

People on the picket line say children can handle the words and should know the issues, as if they were little adults.

Some people at Cross Bayou disagree.

The signs are upsetting enough that the principal, Marcia Stone, calls the protests down the street a "major disruption."

TV satellite trucks jam the shoulder of 102nd Avenue.

What had been a two-lane road is temporarily reduced to one. School buses have trouble making their daily maneuvers.

And many parents who normally let their kids walk or bike to school - a route that took them straight through the crowd of protesters and the fleet of TV trucks - are instead driving them. Escorts shepherd the kids who still walk or take bikes.

On Monday afternoon, as school ended, the escorts included Stone and the school's PTA president, Marti Bouknecht. She pointed to a sign that read, "Terrorizing people with disabilities," and then noted that disabled children attend Cross Bayou.

What were those children and their parents to think, she asked.

Such niceties have been forgotten on 102nd Avenue, although protesters did stand clear of the sidewalk at a police officer's request so the parade of kids could leave school Monday afternoon.

The protesters did not do what the people at Cross Bayou really want. They want the signs to drop briefly in the morning and afternoon when the children are coming and going, so that kids don't have to look at the words, big and scrawled on poster boards.

The people at Cross Bayou seem leery of the protesters, so they asked the police to intervene and pop the question. The police said the signs are part of the protesters' right to demonstrate, and that nothing can be done.

Still, you'd think reason might prevail. Who would want to upset a kid?

Not me, said protester Jackie Miller, when I asked her. Then she pointed to her own sign and asked, "What's offensive with 'Give Terri to Her Mother'?"

Nothing, of course, but we're not talking about one sign.

Children are besieged by talk of death and dying, killing and murder. They see it on the street. They see it on the news. They talk about it in the school halls and get scared. They wonder if their moms and dads are going to be hurt.

And parents are then required to do the difficult job of explaining the protesters and the signs and the TV trucks.

"I wish these people would understand these are children," said Bouknecht.

Same here. I wish that the same people who purport to have such strong feelings about life would feel compassion for the young ones caught in the painful civics lesson under way in Pinellas Park.

How ironic it is. In the zeal to save the daughter of Bob and Mary Schindler, the protesters overlook the desires of other parents to love and protect their own children."

CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE

END OF ARTICLE

Now do you realize how Anti-Terri these fools have made the people of Pinellas County. Can you inagine what the kids thought the day Randall Terry and his signs were there?

... and I'm a "troll..."

Sure I am......

548 posted on 03/31/2004 8:19:16 PM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, news first, fast, 5 minutes sooner, stay tuned to FReeper Radio!)
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To: MindBender26
Did Mary Jo Melone write that article? Just wondering.
549 posted on 03/31/2004 8:24:09 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
Unk
550 posted on 03/31/2004 8:27:10 PM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, news first, fast, 5 minutes sooner, stay tuned to FReeper Radio!)
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To: MindBender26
Yes, it was an article by MJM. I read it earlier and sent her an email....again.
551 posted on 03/31/2004 8:29:12 PM PST by a5478 (a5478)
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To: CindyDawg
We're here, Cindy ... continuing in prayer for Terri and doing as the Lord leads ... + to God be the Glory ...
552 posted on 03/31/2004 8:29:30 PM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: TaxRelief
Do you think the Schindlers drew blood from Terri, or that someone wanted it to look that way?

The substandard care Terri has received points the finger back to the facility. Maybe they couldn't take the heat of the complaints filed for abuse.
Today, the St Pete times ran an article saying Terri's doc had said the wounds did not look like puncture wounds to him. Her tox screen was negative as well.
553 posted on 03/31/2004 8:41:48 PM PST by KDubRN
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To: a5478
Ah, thanks for the confirmation! Good 'ole Mary Jo. At it again. Will she ever get a conscience?
554 posted on 03/31/2004 8:44:42 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
I'm getting cynical . . . who is she in bed with? (figuratively speaking)
555 posted on 03/31/2004 8:50:35 PM PST by a5478 (a5478)
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To: MindBender26; All
In addition, was used by Felos to show family was employing quacks, etc., should be kept away....

And who are the quacks of which you speak, oh wise one?
Here's some news on one of the "quacks" feel louse tried to discredit.
http://www.2dca.org/opinion/March%2026,%202004/2D03-1109.pdf

And, if you haven't read the Pope's stand, and physicians', here they are.......
http://www.academiavita.org/template.jsp?sez=DocumentiMagistero&pag=papi/gp_sv/gp_sv&lang=english

http://www.vegetativestate.org/documento_FIAMC.htm

Those of you who know me, contact me freep mail, please. I need specific info on an issue. Many of you have that info.
556 posted on 03/31/2004 8:51:13 PM PST by KDubRN
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To: a5478
who is she in bed with?

The "Death with Dignity" crowd.

557 posted on 03/31/2004 8:56:44 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: MindBender26
I'll have to concede that you did apparently limit evasion.

"You ask for an answer. It is not pretty, but it is real.

I previously forwarded a list of outstanding PR people to family friend of Terri's. Was told at that time it was being acted upon. It needs to be."


Meanwhile, you continue to bash Freepers on this thread over the head with verbal 2x4's, for not having acted on this list you have. You attack them over what you say they should know *from you*. But you don't give them the information, just attack. Do you want them to act on it or not? Let's find out.

Am willing to come down to Pinellas County to try to explain to family why this needs to be done.

You can go there? Then I'm certain you'll be there in the next few days, with all the high-level expertise you claim in the field. While there, make sure to meet the local Freepers, borrow a computer, and let us all know of your successes. Or, if you don't want to post yourself, I'm sure someone will file a report on your activities for us. Get going!

"Same re: lawyer. Can provide names there also. They need the best."

Then do so now. Then, if the people on this thread fail to act, you *might*, repeat *might* have some basis for your criticisms. Until then, please refrain from bashing them for not knowing what you might have told them, but didn't.

"They will also need $ to pay for it. FReepers and concerned others would need to do fund raisers. The best is not cheap."

No argument there. But I hope that a little ways down this thread I'll see you use the words "pro bono" regarding your own work on this trip to Pinellas I expect you to be taking shortly.
558 posted on 03/31/2004 9:52:47 PM PST by Wampus SC
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To: MindBender26
"On Southwest airlines, they make very obese passengers buy a second ticket for two seats with the armrest removed. Does Southwest make you buy a extra ticket of two for your overinflated ego?"

Oh, I get it. A demonstration of PR skills. Right?
559 posted on 03/31/2004 10:08:53 PM PST by Wampus SC
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To: floriduh voter
Mind control works both ways. You need to be careful of it too. Do you really feel you are acting in this woman's best interests?
560 posted on 03/31/2004 10:14:44 PM PST by merry10
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