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Terri Schiavo Hospitalized With Apparent Puncture Wounds In Arm! Apparent Foul Play!
WFTV-ABC in Orlando | UNK

Posted on 03/30/2004 4:38:13 AM PST by MindBender26

In 7:25 break, anchor reported "Terri Schiavo was rushed to a Pinellas County emergency room last night after nursing home staff noticed puncture wounds on her arm. The wounds appeared to be caused by a hypodermic needle! Toxicology tests were conducted but the results are not available yet!"

This could open a huge new round in this case. What did tests reveal? Who was last person in room? When was husband there? Was staffer trying the Angle of Death routine?

This will be developing hard all day!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: cultofterri; deathculture; homicide; killermike; michaelschiavo; paranoia; recklessspeculation; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler; terrisfight; vegetable
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To: Deo volente
Ditto. That's the ticket. Terri has lovely parents. Demonizing them is going to backfire whether it's by THE SCHIAVO or TROLLS.
241 posted on 03/30/2004 11:50:43 AM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/ Invite to my Site)
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To: Jackie-O
that is exactly what I am thinking! Mike is the dirt ball here, he did it or paid to have it doen! They will be able to prove this........
242 posted on 03/30/2004 11:50:47 AM PST by countrydummy (http://chat.agitator.dynip.com)
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To: Velveeta
Agreed, everytime I walk away from the puter, I think of something else...
I gotta leave work now V, I'll be back in about an hour or so.
243 posted on 03/30/2004 11:55:30 AM PST by Jackie-O
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To: Velveeta
LOL I have done it a thousand times.......course I am not actively working anymore.
244 posted on 03/30/2004 11:58:00 AM PST by countrydummy (http://chat.agitator.dynip.com)
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To: floriduh voter
"Terri, "Where there's life there's hope."

She needs a lot more than hope..... and a lot less of the idiocy advice her "supporters" have been giving and operating under.

In the end, results, not wild dreams, are what count.

246 posted on 03/30/2004 11:59:29 AM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, news first, fast, 5 minutes sooner, stay tuned to FReeper Radio!)
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To: Velveeta
How you feel about today's latest developments regarding the puncture wounds and missing teeth?

Deo Volente says:

This is an "Action" thread by friends of Terri who support her right to life, and are trying to take some action to stop this relentless effort to kill her. It's not a discussion thread on the credentials of doctors or other such matters. Please go to those other threads and post your comments.
Since this is not a discussion thread, I will post my opinion when such discussion thread is posted and different viewpoints are welcome.

Until then, have a nice day.

247 posted on 03/30/2004 12:00:35 PM PST by george wythe
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To: mtbopfuyn
Terri Schiavo is now missing 2 teeth and has decubitus ulcer since transfer to Park Place nursing home in Jan.

Judge Greer rules against family 3/29

248 posted on 03/30/2004 12:00:41 PM PST by cyn (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: MindBender26
Those are Terri's own words, not mine. Your condescending remarks do not mesh with your claims that you are in public relations.
249 posted on 03/30/2004 12:03:08 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/ Invite to my Site)
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To: Wheee The People
I'll see your poll and raise it.
And I'm happy to be called a "Terri zealot".

"Where there's life, there's hope."


Biased Poll Has Florida Voters Against Helping Terri Schiavo
by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
March 1, 2004

Tallahassee, FL (LifeNews.com) -- A new poll reveals that a majority of Florida voters disapprove of Governor Jeb Bush's decision to ask doctors to reinsert the feeding tube that is helping Terri Schiavo stay alive. But, thanks to a biased question, the results may be significantly skewed.
According to a poll, conducted for The Florida Times-Union and South Florida Sun-Sentinel newspapers, only 29 percent backed the governor while 67 percent said Bush and the Legislature were wrong to get involved.
But, pro-life advocates say the question used by Maryland-based polling firm Research 2000, is extraordinarily biased, and that a fairer question could turn up significantly different results.
Respondents were asked: "Do you think Governor Bush and the Florida legislature were right to order the continuation of life support for Terri Schiavo, who has been in a vegetative state for more than a decade?"
However, Terri Schiavo is not on life support nor is she in a vegetative state.
In October, three doctors, including a radiologist and Dr. William Hammesfahr, a recognized national expert on PVS and a Nobel prize nominee, assessed Terri's condition. "This woman is not in a persistent vegetative state," the doctors said at a press conference to announce their findings.
Although a gastric tube provides Terri with food and water, she is not currently on artificial life support and is able to breathe entirely on her own.
Del Ali, president of Research 2000, told LifeNews.com the wording for the question came form the Sun Sentinel newspaper, though he said he's not sure whether Terri Schiavo is on life support or in a vegetative state.
"Who really knows the entire facts, I've heard both sides of this issue," Ali said. "We try to be as objective as we can. What the definition is of [vegetative state], I couldn't tell you ... that's what was controversial."
Linda Kleindienst, a Sun Sentinel reporter who wrote a story concerning the poll, told LifeNews.com she didn't submit the question to Research 2000.

Both Kleindienst and Sharon Rosenhouse, an editor with the Florida newspaper, said staff writers and editors collectively created the polling questions on various political issues used in the Research 2000 poll. They were later reviewed by two editors prior to sending them to the polling firm.
Neither Kleindienst nor Rosenhouse could confirm which Sun Sentinel reporter or editor wrote the language in the Schiavo question.
Despite the poll results, a spokesman for Governor Bush (R) said he stands by his decision.
"This was very important to the governor, and he felt strongly he had to save someone's life," said Alia Faraj, Bush's press secretary, told the Sun-Sentinel.
According to the poll, men and women viewed the situation in similar terms with only 31 percent of men and 27 percent of women backing the governor.
Only Republicans backed Bush and the legislation (47-44%) while Democrats (14-86 percent) and independents (26-71 percent) strongly opposed the actions to save Terri.
White and Hispanic voters were more likely to favor Bush's actions (33 and 39 percent respectively) but only 7 percent of black voters supported the governor. Younger voters (between 18-34 years old) and older voters (above 60) were most likely to oppose Bush and the legislature's actions saving Terri's life than adults in general.
This isn't the first time Florida newspapers have produced a poll with disputed results.
A poll conducted by The Miami Herald and St. Petersburg Times newspapers in December showed that 65 percent of Flordians said they opposed Terri's Law while 23 percent favored it.
Pat Anderson, attorney for Terri's parents Bob and Marcy Schindler, blasted that poll, which also described Terri as being in a persistent vegetative state.
"Any first-year political science student knows that poll results are only as good as the bias of the questioner," Anderson said.
The Research 2000 poll of 600 registered voters was conducted by telephone Feb. 18-22. The poll had a 4 percent margin of error.

Related web sites:
Terri Schiavo's family - http://www.terrisfight.org
Research 2000 - http://research2000.us
South Florida Sun-Sentinel - http://www.sun-sentinel.com/about/site/sfla-helpindex.htmlstory


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250 posted on 03/30/2004 12:05:39 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, Terri Schindler will live.)
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To: syriacus
You reminded me of the star Trek one:
Here's one of the old links on Felos

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1006586/posts?page=22#22

"While standing in the house with the realtor, I knew I would live there, as improbable as the circumstances made it seem. Believing that something will happen is not foresight. Rather, it is the actual experience in the present of something that will occur in the future. The paradox with this form of intuition is that the future is no longer the future because it becomes for that moment the present. When I entered that house for the first time, I knew I would live there because, through foresight, I realized I was already living there.

Most times this "knowing" for me is sensed as a feeling. Sometimes I hear it, and sometimes I see it. This is not to say that I go around every day intuiting tomorrow's events. I'm stuck in my head a good portion of the time, like most of us in our mentally over-developed culture. This means that most of our energy is tied up intellectually, engaged in thought and reacting to thought. And much of the time our reactive thought process drives our emotions. How we feel depends upon whether we happen to be attracted to, averse to or indifferent to what we are thinking.

Intuition does not lie in the rational mind. Sometimes it is "seen" through other centers of the body, such as the heart or solar plexus. Everybody has had that "gut feeling." For me, the experience of intuition through sight is like seeing two different realities at the same time. To use a Star Trek analogy, it's dimensionally multi-phasic. (I wondered whether I could write this book without referring to Star Trek, and didn't get past page three!)

The crew of the Enterprise, beset in one episode by all types of strange maladies, discovered that they were infected by invisible parasitic creatures attached to their bodies. The creatures were unseeable because they existed in another phasic dimension. They occupied the same space and time, but at a different vibrational level. With the benefit of a hand-held "multi-phasic viewing device" constructed by our heroes, they could press a button and observe the creatures on their skin. Release the button and they were gone. Intuitive seeing is somewhat like that for me. A transparent image exists and is there, and then it's not. While extremely subtle, it is also undeniably real."
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and another in Post 1 below. Some of his nonsense was included in the legal briefs:
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=1006586%2C1


45. "Non-party co-conspirator Felos has been paid $550,000, virtually the entirety of Terri's estate...and no funds from the estate have been used for her rehabilitation..."

34. "On page 216, again discussing the Estate of Browning , Mr. Felos writes about the late Estele Browning...'Having spoken with Mrs. Browning when we first met, I decided, with a measure of earnest self-inflation, to purposely initiate such contact...From deep inside, I repeated, "Mrs. Browning, it's OK to leave your body. There is no reason to stay in this body. It is all right to die now. A few minutes into my meditative encouragement, I was jarred by a high pitched sarcastic cackle and the words, 'You're telling me to drop my body and you can't even get out of your head.'"'"

35. "On pages 181-182 of his book, Felos claims that merely by visualizing a plane crash during a flight he was taking back to Florida, he caused the plane to crash, and that God spoke to him at that moment to warn him: 'Be careful what you think. You are more powerful than you realize.' I was startled, humbled, and blessed by God's admoninition.'"
251 posted on 03/30/2004 12:06:55 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: lonevoice; cyn; FL_engineer; PrepareToLeave; Republic; TaxRelief; trustandobey; russesjunjee; ...
BREAKING NEWS FROM WFLA RADIO 970: 4 puncture wounds on one arm and 1 on the other. Nothing unusual.

GREAT NEWS!!! GOVERNOR BUSH IS ASKING FOR AN INVESTIGATION OF THE ENTIRE MATTER. Thanks to everyone who contacted Governor Bush. As usual, he's listening to his constituents.

Don't take seriously anyone calling you a fool or an idiot for helping Terri. YOU ARE EFFECTIVE! Freepers rock.

253 posted on 03/30/2004 12:07:43 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/ Invite to my Site)
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To: george wythe; Deo volente
Woops! And here I was talking about spitting needle caps...my bad. LOL

Deo Volente is not the forum owner, and I hope all posters will indulge me a bit of discussion with you:

I am genuinely curious as to your opinion about today's developments.
254 posted on 03/30/2004 12:08:37 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: MindBender26
BREAKING NEWS... JEB BUSH IS GOING TO INVESTIGATE. When are you returning to Italy? Soon I hope. lol
255 posted on 03/30/2004 12:09:31 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/ Invite to my Site)
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To: Wheee The People
I've received emails from Freepers who are anything but conservative and they are on Terri's side. This argument cuts across conservative/liberal boundaries.

Now that the pope has said that removing the feeding tube from someone who is PVS or in a coma is immoral, I wonder how many Catholics will reconsider their attitude.

Terri is neither PVS or in a coma, so it should be worse to remove her feeding tube.
256 posted on 03/30/2004 12:15:10 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: Wheee The People; All
Although the media and Michael's attorney would like to paint this as a "right-to-die" issue, it isn't in my opinion. The media has totally distorted the truth about what they allow to get out about Terri's condition. First they say she's comatose, or sometimes brain-dead. When the wheel starts getting squeaky, they change the story with something more akin to the truth. Terri's brain-damaged. The media leads people to believe that Terri is near the end of her life, only the real truth is that she was kept in hospice for OVER FOUR YEARS! Wow, that's really terminal! They tell us that she's hooked up to life-support, when what she really has is a feeding tube in her abdomen. My former brother-in-law relies on a bag attached to his abdomen to rid himself of his wastes. Isn't that akin to what Terri's medical supplies are?

The reason the polls are so skewed is because the population has fooled by the media to believe something that isn't true! My own family, who all still live in Florida, yet basically rely on the print and TV media for their information, have all thought Terri was comatose and hooked up to ventilators and such until I've shown them otherwise.

And for anyone who thinks that Terri's cause is taken up only by religious conservatives, let me assure you that you're mistaken in that regard as well. Terri's issue cuts across all demographics, no matter how they are drawn.
257 posted on 03/30/2004 12:15:54 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: floriduh voter
You just made my day with your announcement!
258 posted on 03/30/2004 12:16:11 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: Ohioan from Florida
And for anyone who thinks that Terri's cause is taken up only by religious conservatives, let me assure you that you're mistaken in that regard as well. Terri's issue cuts across all demographics, no matter how they are drawn.

Again you don't even have the support of the majority of "religious conservatives". I will admit that there is a strange alliance with the ultra left "disability rights" wackos but go figure...

259 posted on 03/30/2004 12:20:52 PM PST by Wheee The People (Oo ee oo ah ah, ting tang, walla-walla bing bang. Oo ee oo ah ah, ting tang, walla-walla bing bang!)
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To: FR_addict
"On pages 181-182 of his book, Felos claims that merely by visualizing a plane crash during a flight he was taking back to Florida, he caused the plane to crash, and that God spoke to him at that moment to warn him: 'Be careful what you think. You are more powerful than you realize.'"


Don't you think the Department of Homeland Security should be notified about this?

Seems to me they'd take a marked interest in Mr. Felos' abilities.
260 posted on 03/30/2004 12:21:10 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, Terri Schindler will live.)
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