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Terri Schiavo Hospitalized With Apparent Puncture Wounds In Arm! Apparent Foul Play!
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Posted on 03/30/2004 4:38:13 AM PST by MindBender26

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To: Poohbah; russesjunjee

FOR DISINFORMATION MINISTERS ON THIS THREAD

201 posted on 03/30/2004 11:02:02 AM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/ Invite to my Site)
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To: All
We don't need to allow this thread to be hijacked. This thread isn't about doctor's credentials, previous therapies, or whether or not Terri is in a persistent vegetative state. Can we just ignore the people who are trying to derail this thread?

This thread is in breaking news because mysterious hypodermic puncture wounds on Terri's arms are being investigated as a possible crime. It's relevant that in the past few weeks Terri was found (by her parents) to be missing first one tooth, and then a few days ago a second tooth. She was found in the past few weeks to have a pressure wound. Several weeks ago she was having a mysterious episode of vomiting, which is life-threatening to someone on a feeding tube.

Terri's parents haven't been able to get any response from the nursing or medical staff as to the cause of the missing teeth, the vomiting, or the pressure sore. Michael Schiavo has ordered that no medical information be provided to Terri's parents, despite an earlier court order that they be provided all medical information. Yesterday Judge Greer dismissed the Schindler's contempt motion that would have forced Michael to comply with the earlier court order.

Something is happening to Terri in this nursing home, and it may be coming to a head with this criminal investigation.

202 posted on 03/30/2004 11:04:44 AM PST by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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To: FL_engineer; cyn
LATEST NEWS 2:00 PM est: The labs are back from Terri. No substances found in her blood labs from all the puncture wounds yesterday. Baynews9.com. They didn't say if the Clearwater Police were done with their investigation but whether there was a substance injected or not, getting stuck FIVE TIMES for no good reason is MORE PHYSICAL ABUSE AGAINST THE PERSON OF TERRI SCHINDLER-SCHIAVO.

When will the family get to visit Terri again? ONLY THE SCHIAVO KNOWS.

203 posted on 03/30/2004 11:05:42 AM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/ Invite to my Site)
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To: NautiNurse
Since I have been wearing braces, I broke the habit of removing needle cap with my teeth. Old habits die hard, however.

LOL! I have a friend who takes the cap off with her teeth and then "shoots" the cap right out of her mouth into the waste can. She never misses! I tried it once and only managed to drool all over myself, so I never got into the habit.

204 posted on 03/30/2004 11:06:09 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: floriduh voter
Are you for Terri or against Terri or on this thread because you are bored today?

The facts, just the facts.

I have quoted original sources:

The State of Florida, to establish that "Doctor" Hammesfahr has been found guilty of exploiting patients for financial gain and ordered to pay over $54,000 in fine and court costs

"Doctor" Hammesfahr's own website to prove that he's proud of being published in the scholarly peer-reviewed "National Enquirer"

Th Wolfson Report by Court-Appointed Guardian Jay Wolfson, to prove that Terri's parents have no intention to respect Terri's wishes, whether those wishes are clearly known or not

The Wave Galaxy Group's own website, to prove that those "doctors" are not medical doctors but "alternative medicine" posers

Pro-life World Net Daily, to proof that Terri's parents used Wave Galaxy "doctors" to provide surreptitious "therapy" to Terri

Dr. Novella's article to substantiate that "Doctor" Hammesfahr is considered a quack by at least some of his peers.
Too bad that the facts upset up.
205 posted on 03/30/2004 11:06:25 AM PST by george wythe
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To: tutstar
I have told him, to his face, on more than one occasion, that he needs professional help.

Read prior posts here re Terri. There are many.

End of diversionary discussion.
206 posted on 03/30/2004 11:07:31 AM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, news first, fast, 5 minutes sooner, stay tuned to FReeper Radio!)
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To: lonevoice; george wythe; Catspaw; RGSpincich; MindBender26
We don't need to allow this thread to be hijacked.

Read: "SHUT UP! SHUT UP! I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANY VIEW OTHER THAN MINE!"

If you don't want others to see and comment on all aspects of the case, take it to FReepmail.

207 posted on 03/30/2004 11:08:48 AM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: lonevoice
Good post. We need to stay on track with this developing information.

I've contacted the Clearwater police, but could only leave a voice message. They seem to be allowing Michael to lead the investigation. They should suspend his visiting rights until they get to the bottom of the missing teeth, bed sores, puncture wounds. Obviously, Terri's parents couldn't have cause the missing teeth or the bed sores and they are supervised on their visits to Terri.

Allowing Michael unfettered access to Terri is like letting the fox guard the hen house.
208 posted on 03/30/2004 11:10:22 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: lonevoice; All
see 203.

Further, we are doing sign protests at Park Place Assisted Living every day starting at 5:00 pm. TONIGHT WE START. Something's not right. Greer denies the Schindler's Contempt Motion against Michael, Michael finds five puncture wounds but there's no substances in Terri's labs, Felos blames the parents, Clearwater PD investigate. Michael cuts off visitation until the PD is done. We have trolls who will be unsuccessful in hijacking this thread.

WE HAVE ALERTED THE MEDIA AND OUR LEADERS which is "key". We have called our non-Florida friends to work the Beltway and the media. HELP US - IT'S EASY.

Terri "Where there is life there is hope."

209 posted on 03/30/2004 11:11:33 AM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/ Invite to my Site)
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To: floriduh voter
"ONLY THE SCHIAVO KNOWS."


Everytime I see this name "Schiavo", I feel a little sick.

For that reason, I've amended my tagline.
210 posted on 03/30/2004 11:13:17 AM PST by Deo volente (God willing, Terri Schindler will live.)
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To: Jackie-O; floriduh voter
What in the heck is up with the missing teeth?

E-mail sent to Jeb.
211 posted on 03/30/2004 11:14:03 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: floriduh voter
"However, tests found no unauthorized drugs or other substances in her blood."

I'm wondering about the above statement in one of the articles. Could he have injected her with something that is already being given to her, but in a larger dose. Just enought to make her sick but not show up in the tox screens.

There are also a lot of toxic substances that don't show up on regular tox screens. So unless you know what to look for, you won't find anything unusual.
212 posted on 03/30/2004 11:17:47 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: Poohbah
Read: "SHUT UP! SHUT UP! I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANY VIEW OTHER THAN MINE!"

:-)

I'll shut up.

This is an emotional issue for some posters in FR, and they do not want to read facts or opinions that might question their viewpoint.

I jumped on this thread because it was posted on the highly visible BREAKING NEWS bar, which is the most efficient way to attract comments to a story.

I'll let them go back to the echo chamber mode... only one viewpoint is welcome on this thread.

213 posted on 03/30/2004 11:19:39 AM PST by george wythe
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To: Velveeta; lonevoice
It's relevant that in the past few weeks Terri was found (by her parents) to be missing first one tooth, and then a few days ago a second tooth. She was found in the past few weeks to have a pressure wound. Several weeks ago she was having a mysterious episode of vomiting, which is life-threatening to someone on a feeding tube.

From lonevoice's post #202....

I have not read ANY explanation for the missing teeth, or the vomiting episode, bedsore...

214 posted on 03/30/2004 11:19:49 AM PST by Jackie-O
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To: Deo volente
Just linking to Dr. Hammesfahr's CV for anyone interested in checking it out.

http://www.floridaneurologicalinstitute.com/curriculum_vitae_wmh.htm

Getting off the net - it's been a long day. Terri's supporters were either up all night or started early this morning.

Terri: "Where there's life there's hope." fregards, floriduh voter

215 posted on 03/30/2004 11:20:34 AM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/ Invite to my Site)
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To: floriduh voter
Michael Schiavo and his entire legal team are the FANATICS

That is both one of the most foolish and most dangerous comment of this entire thread.

Neither Michael or his lawyer are fanatics. They have the preponderance of law on their side. They have enjoyed a string of legal victories. They have the majority of public opinion on their side, as measured in all RANDOM polls.

This is a LEGAL case, not some religious court or Star Chamber proceeding. It is in court, not the streets.

Like it or not, the parents have made some incredibly bad legal, therapeutic and PR decisions.

The worst thing we can do is keep attacking the motives of the husband and his lawyer. The hyperbole makes us all seem like weirdos.

216 posted on 03/30/2004 11:21:47 AM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, news first, fast, 5 minutes sooner, stay tuned to FReeper Radio!)
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To: Poohbah
This is an "Action" thread by friends of Terri who support her right to life, and are trying to take some action to stop this relentless effort to kill her. It's not a discussion thread on the credentials of doctors or other such matters. Please go to those other threads and post your comments.

217 posted on 03/30/2004 11:22:05 AM PST by Deo volente (God willing, Terri Schindler will live.)
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To: MindBender26
Pop's Press Conference. Michael took away their visitation as a result of Pops speaking out. What a way to treat your in-laws.

They had a tv-vcr at this press conference wherein they showed that Terri was responsive and communicative. Doing so was forbidden. THIS IS HARD BALL, there's no question about that.

218 posted on 03/30/2004 11:25:20 AM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/ Invite to my Site)
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To: Deo volente
It's not a discussion thread on the credentials of doctors or other such matters. Please go to those other threads and post your comments.

Sorry, wrong.

The tacit approval by the parents of fraudulent quacks and charlatans, and non-lawyer lawyers appealing to the UN makes it harder, much harder to prevail in the other, official arenas.

219 posted on 03/30/2004 11:25:43 AM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, news first, fast, 5 minutes sooner, stay tuned to FReeper Radio!)
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To: Deo volente; Poohbah
Please go to those other threads and post your comments.

Sorry, this is not a private forum with the terms of posting dictated by you. This is a forum that is open to any registered freeper to post his or her comments on any thread. If you want this policy to change, take it up with the owner of the forum.

220 posted on 03/30/2004 11:26:29 AM PST by Catspaw
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