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Goss Questions Truthfulness of Clarke’s 2002 Testimony- could launch investigation soon
Roll Call ^ | 3-25-2004 | Ethan Wallison

Posted on 03/25/2004 2:44:08 PM PST by brothers4thID

House Intelligence Chairman Porter Goss (R-Fla.) said Wednesday that former White House anti-terror czar Richard Clarke, the author of a new book critical of President Bush’s handling of the al Qaeda threat before Sept. 11, 2001, may have lied in testimony to his committee, and said he plans to explore whether Congressional action on the matter is warranted.

Clarke’s “testimony to our committee is 180 degrees out of line with what he is saying in his book,” Goss said. “He’s either lying in his book or he lied to our committee. It’s one or the other.”

Goss added, “If he was lying to a Congressional committee, he’s got a big problem on his hands here.”

Goss did not reveal the substance of the alleged contradictions. But he waved a print-out from the Fox News Channel’s Web site that detailed apparent discrepancies between statements Clarke delivered in 2002 and allegations made in his controversial new memoir, “Against All Enemies.”

Goss suggested that the statements from 2002 more accurately reflected the substance of what Clarke had told the Intelligence panel during that time.

Goss did not specify whether the allegedly contradictory testimony had been made in closed-door session before his committee or the joint Congressional committee that conducted its own separate investigation of the Sept. 11 attacks — or both.

The earlier statements, which surfaced Wednesday, came from a recording of a “background” briefing Clarke provided to reporters while he was still a White House aide. In them, Clarke describes early and aggressive anti-terror efforts in the Bush White House that built significantly on the previous planning by the Clinton administration.

Goss was unwilling to speculate on a potential course of action, saying he is “still trying to understand” what Clarke is contending now.

“You can be sure I’ll be looking at it,” Goss said. “I don’t want people lying to Congressional committees.”

A conviction of lying to Congress carries potential jail time as a penalty.

Clarke’s newest account of the Bush administration’s anti-terror efforts before 9/11 has unleashed a fiercely contested debate over the truthfulness of the former White House aide, who served in four consecutive administrations going back to President Ronald Reagan.

Already, the anti-Bush group MoveOn.Org has launched television spots that quote Clark saying, as he launched the publicity for his book this week, “Frankly, I find it outrageous that a president is running for re-election on the grounds that he’d done such great things on terrorism. He ignored terrorism for months, when maybe we could have done something to stop 9/11.”

A different assessment emerges from the briefing Clarke provided to reporters in 2002. “The Bush administration decided then, you know, in late January [2001], to do two things. One, vigorously pursue the existing policy, including all of the lethal covert action findings. The second thing the administration decided to do is to initiate a process to look at those issues which had been on the table for a couple of years and get them decided.”

Clarke added, “That process, which was initiated in the first week in February [2001], decided in principle in the spring to add to the existing Clinton strategy and to increase CIA resources, for example, for covert action, five-fold, to go after al-Qaeda.”

In sworn testimony Wednesday, Clarke told the commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks that the discrepancies reflected the “political” role he needed to perform on the Bush administration’s behalf after the attacks.

Asked by former Illinois Gov. James Thompson (R), a member of the commission, whether he believes the comments made in the 2002 recording are consistent with the information provided in his book and in his recent press interviews, Clarke responded, “I do.”

Clarke nevertheless adjusted the tenor of his criticism slightly. In contrast to the charge that the White House “ignored” the threat from al Qaeda, Clarke said, “I feel the Bush administration in the first eight months considered terrorism an important issue, but not an urgent issue.”

The Clarke transcript from 2002 emerged after the White House agreed to permit Fox News to reveal the identity of the background briefer. That action drew strong criticism from Democrats, including commission member and former Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-Neb.), who suggested that the White House had violated a pact it made with the press in order to discredit the former aide.

Efforts to reach several Intelligence Committee Democrats on Thursday were unsuccessful.

A publicist for Clarke’s publisher, Simon & Schuster, said, “We always stand by the books that we publish.”

Meanwhile, Senate Minority Leader Thomas Daschle (D-S.D.) lashed out at the White House on Thursday for what he alleged to be “character attacks” on Clarke.

“Instead of dealing with it factually, they’ve launched a shrill attack to destroy Mr. Clarke’s credibility,” Daschle alleged in a speech on the Senate floor. He did not cite specifics.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clarke; congress; daschle; dasshole; goss; iraq; perjury; portergoss; richardclarke; terrorism
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Even the last line of this is classic:

[Daschle said] "instead of dealing with it factually..." He did not list specifics

Nice double standard there Daschle. Bush has to use facts, but you don't have to. Thanks for clearing that up- blowhard.

1 posted on 03/25/2004 2:44:08 PM PST by brothers4thID
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To: brothers4thID
I watched some of Liar Clarke's testimony yesterday, I could see right through his BS. And by the way DasHole, we are using facts to attack this liars character.
2 posted on 03/25/2004 2:47:32 PM PST by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: Pukin Dog
Is this what you were referring to last night or is there something else?
3 posted on 03/25/2004 2:47:36 PM PST by mystery-ak (Please support the USO...our troops really depend on them.)
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To: brothers4thID
Daschle alleged in a speech on the Senate floor.

Daschle has a vested interest. I believe that it was he who appointed Roemer, Ben-Veniste and Gore-lick to the committee.

4 posted on 03/25/2004 2:49:05 PM PST by jackbill
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To: brothers4thID
It is not criminal to print lies in a book, as when the writer puts the words on paper, no oath is sworn out, no affidavit is signed. The book really should be reclassified as fiction, however.
5 posted on 03/25/2004 2:52:33 PM PST by alloysteel
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To: alloysteel
threaten him with a hearing, make him recant, win. Actually put him in front of a hearing, lose.

6 posted on 03/25/2004 2:53:52 PM PST by HarryCaul
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To: alloysteel
No, it is not criminal to print lies in a book. But, if it calls in question his prior testimony, then he should be made to answer for it. Put him on record as either admitting he lied (which he won't do) or make him repudiate the core premise of his book.

Either way, he's caught between a rock and a hard place. The question remains whether the Pubbie's have the cajones to do it???

7 posted on 03/25/2004 3:02:26 PM PST by el_texicano (Liberals are the real Mind-Numbed Robots - No Brains, No Guts, No Character)
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To: brothers4thID
"A publicist for Clarke’s publisher, Simon & Schuster, said, “We always stand by the books that we publish.”"

Isn't this exactly what the publisher of that book accusing Pres. Bush (then nominee Bush) of using drugs said about standing by the writer, and then the book and the writer were heard of no more?
8 posted on 03/25/2004 3:04:33 PM PST by jtill (BIBLE = Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: el_texicano
Yes, Porter Goss has the strength to go after Clark for perjury. Remember Martha Stewart's perjury conviction for lying to federal investigators???----well Clark could go down for lying to Goss's committee. Goss has the classified testimony of what Clark said. My guess is that Clark doesn't have a clue what exactly he said then, and
Goss has the classifed transcripts. I also think that Clark never dreamed that anyone would ever catch him in all his contradictions, since he is borderline psychotic in imagining his own importance in the universe.

Clark now has to hire a lawyer right away, and sweat out whether there is a perjury conviction coming. Any decent lawyer will tell Clark to shut up immediately and to make no further public statements of any type. We'll see if Clark takes his lawyer's advice. Remember Martha didn't, and that led to her downfall.
9 posted on 03/25/2004 3:10:46 PM PST by pushforbush
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To: el_texicano
The question remains whether the Pubbie's have the cajones to do it???

He'll probably just fade away like Wilson and O'Neill after a few weeks. And then there'll be another.

10 posted on 03/25/2004 3:10:52 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Leroy S. Mort
On this one, it will be a Congressman, Porter Goss, and not the White House, going after the guy. I bet they do it-----this situation more amazing and brazen than you can imagine
11 posted on 03/25/2004 3:12:32 PM PST by pushforbush
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To: HarryCaul
If Goss calls a hearing of his committee, and subpoenas Clark to testify, you will know that he is going to get Clark. Also, I bet the new committee hearing is classified, since the old testimony Clark will be confronted with is classified also.
12 posted on 03/25/2004 3:14:00 PM PST by pushforbush
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To: jackbill
Daschle has a vested interest. I believe that it was he who appointed Roemer, Ben-Veniste and Gore-lick to the committee.

PER HILLARY'S ORDERS.

13 posted on 03/25/2004 3:14:39 PM PST by Spotsy (Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: brothers4thID
Time to call his bluff!
14 posted on 03/25/2004 3:20:27 PM PST by FranklinsTower
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To: mystery-ak
That and more.
15 posted on 03/25/2004 3:26:29 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: brothers4thID
" including commission member and former Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-Neb.), who suggested that the White House had violated a pact it made with the press in order to discredit the former aide. "

No, Senator Kerrey, discrediting someone is making comments about their war crimes or such similar personal attacks in an attempt to assasinate character whereas releasing a transcript of one's own words is simply honoring the truth. YOU should know the difference.

16 posted on 03/25/2004 3:29:42 PM PST by NonValueAdded (He says "Bring it on!!" Then when you do, he says, "How dare you!! ")
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To: brothers4thID

Perhaps he could begin investigating THIS.

Richard Clarke is quoted extensively in this book, too.

And it is 180 degrees of sedition.

17 posted on 03/25/2004 3:33:30 PM PST by Enduring Freedom (Guess How We Ended Japanese Kamikaze Attacks?)
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To: FranklinsTower
Good news that Clarke truthfulness being publicly questioned.
18 posted on 03/25/2004 3:42:50 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: brothers4thID
We are America, the most powerful nation that ever inhabited Earth.

We are Republicans, the most powerful political party, in control of the most powerful nation on Earth.

Message to GOP: Use it, or lose it!
19 posted on 03/25/2004 3:46:34 PM PST by Enduring Freedom (Guess How We Ended Japanese Kamikaze Attacks?)
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To: Leroy S. Mort
He'll probably just fade away like Wilson and O'Neill after a few weeks. And then there'll be another.

Who are these people?

Never mind, no one cares.

20 posted on 03/25/2004 3:48:58 PM PST by Enduring Freedom (Guess How We Ended Japanese Kamikaze Attacks?)
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