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To: Hon
It sure would be nice to find when Kerry actually went to Paris. And why.

My take:

He went there with the VVAW in March of 1971, to negotiate with the North Vietnamese, or possibly some time before that to set up the VVAW's meeting with them in March. Did Kerry go to Paris once or twice between May of 1970 and his Congressional Testimony of April, 1971?

Look at the excerpts from your article that deal with Kerry spokesman Michael Meehan:

Kerry, now the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, yesterday confirmed through a spokesman that he did go to Paris and talked privately with a leading communist representative. But the spokesman played down the extent of Kerry's role and said Kerry did not engage in negotiations.

Asked about the appropriateness of Kerry's saying that the United States had "murdered" 200,000 Vietnamese annually when the United States was at war, Kerry spokesman Michael Meehan said "Senator Kerry used a word he deems inappropriate."

Meehan said Kerry "never suggested or believed and absolutely rejects the idea that the word applied to service of the American soldiers in Vietnam." Meehan then declined to say to whom Kerry was referring when he said that the United States had murdered the Vietnamese; Kerry declined to be interviewed about the matter.

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After their May 1970 marriage, Kerry traveled to Paris with his wife, Julia Thorne, on a private trip, Meehan said. Kerry did not go to Paris with the intention of meeting with participants in the peace talks or involving himself in the negotiations, Meehan added, saying that while there Kerry had his brief meeting with Binh, which included members of both delegations to the peace talks.

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Kerry's statement dealt with the question of whether he was trying to negotiate in Paris as a private citizen and was thus on that "borderline" of what was allowable. A US law forbids citizens from negotiating with foreign governments on matters such as peace treaties. Meehan said Kerry was not negotiating.

"Senator Kerry had no role whatsoever in the Paris peace talks or negotiations," Meehan said in his statement. "He did not engage in any negotiations and did not attend any session of the talks. Prior to his Senate testimony, he went to Paris on a private trip, where he had one brief meeting with Madam Binh and others. In an effort to find facts, he learned the status of the peace talks from their point of view and about any progress in resolving the conflict, particularly as it related to the fate of the POWs."

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Meehan, asked to explain Kerry's comment, said: "During a very emotionally charged time in American history, Senator Kerry was testifying against a failed policy, which resulted in the killing of hundreds of thousands of people. That policy resulted in one of the highest civilian casualty rate in the history of war. In answering Senator [George D.] Aiken's question about the consequences of an American withdrawal and potential additional bloodbath, Senator Kerry used a word he deems inappropriate.

"Senator Kerry never suggested or believed and absolutely rejects the idea that the word applied to service of the American soldiers in Vietnam. While opposed to the failed policy, Senator Kerry insisted that Americans must never confuse the war with the warriors."

Thorne was Kerry's cover, giving him the excuse of going to Paris on a private trip on which he just happened to bump into the VVAW and Madame Bine at the Paris Peace Talks. Of course, they met "privately," not at the official negotiating table -- as though he couldn't undermine the U.S. position "privately."

Chronologically, the Kerry-Thorne private Parisian jaunt did indeed come after their wedding in May of 1970 -- up to ten months later.

After returning from Paris and his private talks with Madame Binh, Kerry led the VVAW against Washington D.C. in April, 1971. Coincidence, or coordinated?

I take from this that the Kerry campaign is trying to pre-empt charges that he was negotiating foreign policy while still a private citizen, without the approval of the Executive Branch. I think they are spooked by the CSPAN broadcast last weekend.

Did Kerry testify as to when under what circumstances he went to Paris?

Is it possible that he perjured himself on that point?

Sidebar:

Notice that Kerry, through Meehan, stands by his testimony that U.S. Forces "murdered" 200,000 Vietnamese.


24 posted on 03/25/2004 11:30:16 AM PST by Sabertooth (< /Kerry>)
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To: Sabertooth
"I take from this that the Kerry campaign is trying to pre-empt charges that he was negotiating foreign policy while still a private citizen, without the approval of the Executive Branch."

I think so too. I think that this was an attempt to make it sound like it was just a pleasure trip with his bride. In fact, he went there with the intention of meeting with the Vietcong and North Vietnamese. These things don't just happen.

"Did Kerry testify as to when under what circumstances he went to Paris?"

No, I think I've cited the only place he directly mentioned it. But Kerry saw himself very much as a negotiator. As I've said, he cited McCarthy as precedent.

I've posted the entire transcript of his Senate appearance:

Kerry's Testimony Before The Senate Foreign Relations Committee, April 22, 1971 - Entire Transcript
Congressional Record ^ | March 15, 2004 | John Kerry

Posted on 03/15/2004 10:01:27 AM EST by Hon

[Please especially note Kerry's remarks after his opening statement. He says a number of surprising things.]

LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS RELATING TO THE WAR IN SOUTHEAST ASIA

THURSDAY, APRIL 22, 1971

UNITED STATES SENATE;
COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS,
Washington, D.C.

The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 11:05 a.m., in Room 4221, New Senate Office Building, Senator J. W. Fulbright (Chairman) presiding.

Present: Senators Fulbright, Symington, Pell, Aiken, Case, and Javits.

The CHAIRMAN. The committee will come to order.

30 posted on 03/25/2004 12:00:51 PM PST by Hon
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