SMS (Cell phone rumor) accuse Spanish Socialists of knowing the bombings previously

IBL NEWS (in Spanish) ^ | 2004-3-24

[Reader of news]

According to Izaronews.org, during last Monday morning some mobile phones have received the next message: "The German SPD informed PSOE -using Moratinos- that their intellinge services knew the operation 'Deathtrain' against Aznar. Send this. PSOE did know." Moratinos could be the next Spanish Foreign Affaires Minister.

Full text translation:

SMS accuse the PSOE to previously know the operation ' trains muerté Somebody is using again the messages to moving bodies to imply to the Socialists in the disinformation that happened after the attacks of Madrid of past 11 of March. Tuesday, 23 March 2004 NOTICIASDOT, IBLNEWS According to inform Izaronews.org, during the morning of Monday have begun to be received in some moving bodies (one of the origin telephones is the +34635202777), messages with the following text: "the German SPD informed to the PSOE through Moratinos, that their intelligence services knew to existence of the operation" trains of the death "against Aznar. Pásalo.PSOE yes knew it ". Miguel Moratinos Angel, career diplomat, was chosen by Zapatero member of the Committee of Advising of the Candidate to the Presidency of the Government (Committee of Notables) with whom confronted the general elections, and has also been designated as interlocutor of the Government in functions for the crossing of powers in foreign policy.

Moratinos, could be the next minister of Outer Subjects, according to point diverse mass media. The citizens, during Saturday 13 of March, used the messages to moving bodies to summon manifestations as opposed to the seats of the PP and subdelegations of the Government to protest by the use that the Government of Aznar did of the information after the attack of day 11. Later, the PP used the same system to summon a concentration as opposed to their Madrilenian seat of the Genoa street, of support to Mariano Rajoy, after it lost the general elections. It is seen that a new method for numerous calls has been born, method with evident and satisfied beneficiaries, the telephone companies

[Robert_Paulson2]

... and the other shoe drops...

the socialists ARE al quaeda.

[An.American.Expatriate]

How reliable is the source - never heard of them . . .

[george wythe]

The news source is just reporting that a person with a cell phone is spreading rumors.

[Cicero]

Curious. The U.S. and Britain have a very large dog in this fight. Someone should ask the Germans if this is true, investigate the matter, and follow up on it.

If this is true, it cannot be allowed to stand.

The question arises: Would German intelligence brief the Socialist shadow minister on this matter rather than the Aznar government? Or might they have briefed both? If they went around the proper channels but not through them, then Germany has a lot to answer for too. If the Aznar government was informed at the same time, then the Spanish Socialists can't really be held responsible for staying quiet.

[kevao]

What did the shoemaker know, and when did he know it?

[Physicist]

The Socialists named the bombing plot "Operation Death Train" and bandied it about in a free and unencrypted manner. Yup. I'll buy that for a dollar.

[cripplecreek]

Strange days in europe indeed.

[xm177e2]

The Socialists named the bombing plot "Operation Death Train" and bandied it about in a free and unencrypted manner. Yup. I'll buy that for a dollar.

You know they would have named it something like "Operation Peace and Equality Train" if they had been behind it. </kidding>

If it's on the internet, it must be true...

[xm177e2]

Could you edit the headline to make it clear that "SMS" refers to mobile phone messages being spread by some unknown person? As it stands, people who read the headline are thinking SMS is the acronym for some sort of group with credibility.

[RightOnTheLeftCoast]

Also note

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22trenes+de+la+muerte%22

and

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22trenes+de+la+muerte%22&sa=N&tab=wn

[RightOnTheLeftCoast]

"Trains of Death" seems to be the official al Qaeda name for the operation.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.rebelion.org/spain/040312quaeda.htm&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522trenes%2Bde%2Bla%2Bmuerte%2522%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8

...the factions of the terrorist network To the Qaeda, the Brigades of Abu Hafs-Al Qaeda, demanded yesterday the responsibility of the attacks of Madrid. The plaintext is the following one:

"In the name of God, Merciful and Merciful, When they punish to you, you must punish in the same way to those who punished to you. Mátalos there where you find them; expúlsalos as they expelled to you; the sedition is more serious than the murder. To that they commit aggressions against you, you must do to them the same.

OPERATION TRAINS OF THE DEATH

The Brigades of Abu Hafs to the Masri promised in their last official notice referring to the explosions of Kerbala and Bagdad of the 2 of March of 2004 that were prepared for next operations and we have fulfilled our promise: the death squad has been able to break into the defense of the European Crossed one, striking to one of the pillars of Crossed and the its allies: Spain, with a painful blow. It is part of an old adjustment of accounts with Crossed Spain, ally of (North) America in his war against the Islam.

Where is America, Aznar? Who will protect of us you to you, to Great Britain, to Italy, to Japan and other agents? When we already struck the Italian troops in Naseriya we sent to the agents of America a warning: retiraros of the alliance against the Islam. But you did not understand the message. Now we put the points on the íes. We hoped that you understand the message.

We in the Brigades of Abu Hafs to the Masri did not become sad by the death of civilians. He is legitimate that they kill our children, women, old, young in Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine and Kashmir, whereas he is sinned that we kill them? All-powerful God says that "to which agreden to you, you must attack them".

Sacadnos the hands of above, you release our prisoners and you leave our earth, we will leave you peacefully.

The towns of the allies of the United States must force their governments to finish that alliance in the war against the terrorism, that means war against the Islam. If you stop the war, we will stop ours.

We say to you: the Swarm of the Smoke of the Death will reach to you soon in a site where you will be able to see dead thousands, if God wants, and this is a warning.

We say to the Muslims worldwide that the gust of Winds of the Black Death already is in its final phase, in a ninety percent, if God wants, at its appropriate moment.

In another operation, the Swarms of the Soldiers of Jerusalem struck to the Jews and masones in Istambul, and three masones important died in that operation, and if not outside by a technical failure, they would have died all masones.

We say to the Bilal Swarm ibn Rabah that we have accepted the supply, and after the arrival of the delegate, the action will begin.

And we say to the Swarm Abu Ali to the Harfi that the leadership (of A the Qaeda) has decided to consider to Yemen the third pantanal, and to give to a lesson to its Government apostate who comes just after Pervez Musharraf. For that reason, all the cells must be alert and the action will begin in 4515.

And we say to which kills to ulemas Muslim suníes in Iraq which they raise the hands, or otherwise...

Warning to the nations: you do not approach Crossed the civilian or military facilities of American or the its allies.

God is Great, God is Great. The Islam already arrives.

Brigades of Abu Hafs to the Masri-Al Qaeda.

20 Thursdays Muharram 1425-11 of March 2004.

[HitmanLV]

Sounds pretty whacked to me. I don't buy it.

[dirtboy]

I'm taking this with a very, very large grain of salt, until we see something more than cell-phone rumors.

[Reader of news]

Ping

[Physicist]

I'm taking this with a very, very large grain of salt, until we see something more than cell-phone rumors.

Would you believe that an elderly couple from Florida was passing through Madrid, and intercepted it on a Bearcat scanner?

[Redbob]

Now there's a clear translation.
</sarcasm>

[dirtboy]

Would you believe that an elderly couple from Florida was passing through Madrid, and intercepted it on a Bearcat scanner?

Only if the Socialists were the ones spreading the rumor...

[Reader of news]

I didn't post the second translation.

[Robert_Paulson2]

Would German intelligence brief the Socialist shadow minister on this matter rather than the Aznar government

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only if they were working with other socialist state, to overthrow the conservative government of spain in retaliation for spain siding with US and Great Britain...

< / surely not the socialists >