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Are gas prices really the highest ever?
Individual Research | unpublished | Don Simmons

Posted on 03/24/2004 6:39:40 AM PST by Don Simmons

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1 posted on 03/24/2004 6:39:40 AM PST by Don Simmons
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To: Don Simmons
How did you estimate today's value of a 1950 quarter? I'm just idly curious what measure you used.

Good post!
2 posted on 03/24/2004 6:45:04 AM PST by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: Don Simmons
If anyone thinks oil companies make obscene profits on gasoline sales, all they need to do is buy stock in those companies to share in those outrageous profits.
3 posted on 03/24/2004 6:45:12 AM PST by John Thornton
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To: Don Simmons
How about reporting the retail price of gasoline without the state and Federal taxes?
4 posted on 03/24/2004 6:45:52 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (The power to tax is the power to destroy.)
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To: Don Simmons
"Fact: Our national average gas price in 1950 was 25 cents a gallon. YES! That's a fact - four gallons for a dollar! Amazing isn't it? Do you really think that's cheap? Well, do you know that at today's dollar value, that 25 cents equates to approximately $1.93?!?!"

Fact: in 1950 the average commute to and from work was far lower than it is today hence less gas used and needed. In addition, many families only owned 1 car since it was possible to support a family on one income. So while it may be cute and fun to extrapolate the figures from 1950 forward to today let's be sure to extrapolate all of them and get a TRUE picture.

That fact is that U.S. consumers are being gouged by the oil companies and run roughshod over by OPEC (odd that we go after Microsoft but not OPEC).

If Microsoft is guilty of keeping the competition down then certainly OPEC is as well.
5 posted on 03/24/2004 6:47:03 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: Don Simmons
And yes, I do still think we are paying too much for gas.
6 posted on 03/24/2004 6:48:43 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: Don Simmons
Also remember to mention that at least 50 cents of that price is Federal Tax
7 posted on 03/24/2004 6:49:03 AM PST by CyberSpartacus
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To: Don Simmons
Obviously you own a gas station...Do we give a flip what they do in Europe??? A lot of people in China can only afford to eat rice...Without the stir-fry...Is that something you advocate we do also???

Slovakia could not win a war in Iraq...Likely France couldn't either...Even combined with Germany and Spain...So what's gas cost in Slovakia???

8 posted on 03/24/2004 6:51:00 AM PST by Iscool
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To: John Thornton
If anyone thinks oil companies make obscene profits on gasoline sales, all they need to do is buy stock in those companies to share in those outrageous profits.

When the gas price on Wednesday is $1.55 and Thursday it goes to $1.81, which it did and does here, and Sunday night drops back down, week after week, we KNOW we are getting robbed and yes, someone is making a killing...

Maybe you stock holders aren't getting your share, but someone's gettin' it...

9 posted on 03/24/2004 6:55:33 AM PST by Iscool
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To: Don Simmons
Excellent post, Don. Regardless of the hostile response from some...
10 posted on 03/24/2004 6:55:56 AM PST by Grit (www.NRSC.org)
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To: Bikers4Bush
That fact is that U.S. consumers are being gouged by the oil companies and run roughshod over by OPEC (odd that we go after Microsoft but not OPEC).

1. There was a report last week that investors are generally disappointed in the profits posted by U.S. oil companies. If that's the case, then it's hard to make the case that these companies are "gouging" anyone.

2. OPEC is an international cartel, and therefore is not subject to U.S. anti-trust law. What do you expect the U.S. government to do -- embargo imports of OPEC oil? Yeah, that sounds like a great career move.

3. There are two basic reasons why gasoline prices in the U.S. are so high: rising demand in the face of limited supply, and a U.S. dollar that has lost a substantial amount of value against nearly every foreign currency over the last couple of years.

11 posted on 03/24/2004 6:56:05 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE north strong and free.)
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To: John Thornton
John Thornton wrote:

If anyone thinks oil companies make obscene profits on gasoline sales, all they need to do is buy stock in those companies to share in those outrageous profits.

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Anyone who thinks oil companies share much of their profits on gasoline sales with stockholders is very naive.

12 posted on 03/24/2004 6:56:13 AM PST by tpaine (The arrogance of power demands that infinitely shrewd imbeciles lay down the law for all)
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To: AntiGuv
AG, Here is a link to some inflation calculators...

http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/bu2/inflate.html

The first one on the list shows a 1954 quarter = $1.71 (2003). I'd say Don's numbers are pretty close.
13 posted on 03/24/2004 6:57:15 AM PST by Grit (www.NRSC.org)
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To: Grit
1950 quarter = $1.91 (2003). I don't know where I got 1954 in the above post(?)
14 posted on 03/24/2004 6:58:52 AM PST by Grit (www.NRSC.org)
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To: Iscool
When the gas price on Wednesday is $1.55 and Thursday it goes to $1.81, which it did and does here, and Sunday night drops back down, week after week, we KNOW we are getting robbed and yes, someone is making a killing.

Hint: Go fill your car up on Tuesday.

15 posted on 03/24/2004 6:59:50 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE north strong and free.)
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To: Don Simmons
"Fact: Our national average gas price in 1950 was 25 cents a gallon"

In 1952 I was paying 13 cents/gallon for gas in Los Angeles and it didn't go to 25 cents until the early 70s!
16 posted on 03/24/2004 6:59:51 AM PST by dalereed (,)
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To: Don Simmons
AT $1.74 it is still cheaper than milk, water, and soda pop.
17 posted on 03/24/2004 7:00:53 AM PST by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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To: tpaine
Anyone who thinks oil companies share much of their profits on gasoline sales with stockholders is very naive.

What do they do -- hide the money in their mattresses?

18 posted on 03/24/2004 7:00:58 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE north strong and free.)
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To: Don Simmons
You are so full of it.

Gasoline in 1971 was 19.9 cents per gallon. Extrapolate from there.

And the argument that other countries pay more so we should not feel bad for paying more is pretty lame.

19 posted on 03/24/2004 7:01:11 AM PST by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: Bikers4Bush
many families only owned 1 car since it was possible to support a family on one income

Once again proving that socialism, with its high burden on producers, is inefficient and bad for the environment and the economy.

If the enviros weren't just watermelon commies, they would support lowering of the tax burden to the point that we could all live with one income and one car.

20 posted on 03/24/2004 7:03:46 AM PST by MrB
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