Live Thread - September 11 Commission, Day 2, Wednesday, March 24, 2004

CSPAN 3, CBS webfeed ^ | March 24, 2004

[TomGuy]

Live thread for Day 2 of the September 11 Commission Hearings.

CSPAN 3 seems to be the only CSPAN covering this in various formats. http://www.c-span.org/watch/index.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3&ShowVidDays=30&ShowVidDesc=

Also CBS webfeed opens Real Player. http://cgi.cbs.com/video/video.pl?url=/broadcast/*/livenews.rm&plugin=1&proto=rtsp

CBS news website may have other feed formats.

[samadams2000]

Rush!!!



THE TOOLS ARE OUT OF THE SHED!!!!!

[KC Burke]

Isokoff saying tape doesn't discredit Clarke

LOL! Maybe we can pass along to Mike that this may be true, BECAUSE THE BOOK SURE DOES!

[Howlin]

YOU NEED TO SKIP TO THE END.......and look at #609!!!!

HURRY!

[mathluv]

When Rush has mentioned a site, it causes a lot of traffic. Remember when he crashed DU?

[Pukin Dog]

You guys are sweet, thanks.

The new revelation on Clarke was supposed to come out yesterday, but they could not get Fox to get on the ball getting permissions. The tape had to be cleared for security reasons before Fox could air it.

I caught a moment, but I'm out again for the rest of the morning. See you all later.

I told you not to worry, didn't I?

[Howlin]

What?

[mass55th]

"They did not want to kill Bin Laden because it would have made him stronger and make us look weak?"

Yep! This was not a good day for the Clinton Adminstration. Hee hee.

[McGruff]

A devastating question from the families of Sept 11th:

Prior to 911, did you have anything knowledge of planes being used as missiles.

Berger: Uh, .... spin ....lie...

[McGavin999]

Nah, he wasn't sandbagging, he was probably searching through hundreds of tapes. Then he had to get clearance from the WH because it was on background. He found it and got the clearance this morning.

[Solson]

I'll say it again...this is the Church commission revisited...for the purpose of dismantling the Bush doctrine of pre-emption.

[BigSkyFreeper]

Rush saying what I've said all along this morning. The mainstream partisan press will not treat this Jim Angle bombshell the bombshell it is, they'll ignore it or if they can't ignore it, they'll bury it deep in the back pages of their newspapers.

[Howlin]

Yes, you did.......love you, mean it!! :-)

[samadams2000]

Liberal TOOLS!

[hoosiermama]

Why seventeen? Why not 16 or 18?

[areafiftyone]

It already hit DU but they think it's a forgery because only Fox News has it.

[Peach]

I have to disagree.

20 million people listen to Rush.

Millions listen to FNC - generally their ratings exceed CNN.

A few newsoutlets will report this bombshell.

People read the internet and will see it.

I'd be shocked if NOT ONE 911 Commission member asked Clarke about this.

It will also be our job to make sure it gets out. We can do it, but only if we bomb CBS and CNN with e-mails and phone calls after this is over this afternoon.

[StriperSniper]

Remember when he crashed DU?

It was even better when he did it two days later talking about them complaining about the first time.

Asman ripping Isicock(as he was called by a caller to C-SPAN this morning ;-)

Lunch Break, be back!

[Carolinamom]

Rush is on radio delay........WE get it First!

[Kaslin]

Add this one to your list:

Dereliction of Duty: The Eyewitness Account of How Bill Clinton Endangered America's Long-Term National Security, by Robert Patterson. ...

Patterson was the one who carried 'the football' [nuclear codes] for Clinton

From Chapter Seven of Lt Col Robert 'Buzz' Patterson's book DERELICTION OF DUTY

THE WHITE HOUSE SITUATION ROOM was buzzing. It was fall 1998 and the national Security Counci (NSC) and the "intelligence community" were tracking the whereabouts of of Osama bin Ladenm the shadowy mastermind of terrorists on American targets overseas. "They've successfully triangulated hus location," yelled a "Sit Room" watch stander. "We've got him."

Beneith the West Wing of the White House, behind a vaulted steel door the Sit Room staff sprang into action.. The watch officer notified National Security Advisor Sandy Berger, "Sir, we've located bin Ladin. We havea two-hour window to strike."

Charasteristic of the Clinton administration, the wepon of choice would be Tomahawk missiles. No clandestine "snatch" by our Special Operations Forces. No penetrating bombers or highg speed fighter aircraft flown by our Airforce and Navy Forces. No risk of losing American lives

Berger ambled Down the stairwell and entered the room. He picked up the phone at one of the busy controller consoles. and called the president. Amazingly, President Clinton was not available. Berger tried again and again.. Bin Ladin was within striking distance. The window of opportunity was closing fast. Teh plan of attack as set and the Tomahawk crews were ready.. for about an hour Berger couldn't get the commnader in chief on the line.. Though the president was always accombanied by military aides and the Secret Service, he was somehow unavailabele. Berger stalked teh Sit Room, anxious and impatient.

Finally the president accepted Berger's call. There was discussion, there were pauses____ and no decision. The president wanted to talk with his secretairies of defense and state. He wanted to study the issue further. Berger was forced to wait. The clock was ticking. The president eventually called back. He was till indecisive. He wanted more discussions. Berger alternated between phone calls and watching the clock.

The NSC watch officer was convinced we had the right target.. teh intelligence sources were conclusive. the president however wanted a guaranteed hit or nothing at all.

This time it was nothing at all. We "studied" the issue until it was to late._____ the window of opportunity closed. Al Qaeda's spiritual and arganizational leader slipped through the noose.

This lost bin Ladin hit typified the Clintons administration's ambuvalent, undecisive way of of terrorism.

[mathluv]

Isikoff upset Tenet not being questioned hard enough. David Asnar smothering a laugh as he talks about Clarke coming up next.