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Four 9/11 Moms Watch Rumsfeld And Grumble
NY Observer ^ | 3/24/04

Posted on 03/24/2004 4:21:22 AM PST by Ranger

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To: Ranger
"If they want to own 9/11, they also have to own 9/10 and 9/12," said Ms. Kleinberg. "Their argument is that this was a defining moment in our history. It’s not the moment of tragedy that defines you, but what you do afterwards."

Well, which is it, lady? You seem to want to hammer the administration for its "inaction" prior to 9/11.

Simply put, all this hindsight BS is just that. The WTC/Pentagon attacks revealed serious flaws in the U.S. intelligence apparatus, specifically the portion operating here at home. There was no communication between agencies, a complete lack of both resources and will on the part of the INS to do something about "undocumented" criminals in our midst, and a clear miscalculation regarding the nature of the terrorist threat.

I certainly feel sorry for these ladies and their families; the nation has mobilized on their behalf. But their desire to assign blame is certain to go unfulfilled. I believe their emotional need for closure would be better satisfied by encouraging diligence moving forward, rather than trying to pick a political scapegoat.

My feeling is the whole system f'd up. Let's not let it happen again. We could, and have, sit here and blame every high official in D.C. over the past 12 years. That's real useful.

21 posted on 03/24/2004 4:59:34 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: Ranger
Four 9/11 Moms Watch Rumsfeld And Grumble

Somewhere, someplace, Im sure 3 people are upset at Bush....but I (nor Bush) couldnt care less.

22 posted on 03/24/2004 5:01:40 AM PST by smith288 (Who would terrorists want for president? 60% say Kerry 25% say Bush... Who would you vote for?)
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To: Ranger
What a hit piece! The Observer has distorted the truth thoughout this article.
24 posted on 03/24/2004 5:06:36 AM PST by Quilla
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To: sinkspur
Sorry for my cynicism, but this never-ending whining is a transparent political ploy.

I tend to agree.

I'm wondering if they would be satisfied if everyone, from the Prez on down, just lay down and said: "Ok, ok, we all screwed up, mea culpa, mea culpa!"

Somehow, I don't think this would satisfy them, either.

Nothing short of everyone drinking hemlock would satisfy them.

25 posted on 03/24/2004 5:08:20 AM PST by OldSmaj
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To: Ranger
Even the "bereaved" play politics with 911. "It's like the 60's to me, ya paint it all black"... or some such were the words to a song from the 80's Christian Rock band Daniel Amos.

The point is, the Dems are trying to paint everything as conspiratorial and they feign indignation, hoping to inflame the general public to follow suit. They've already brought forward President Nixon into the political mix regarding Nixon sicking the FBI to snoop on Kerry back in the Vietnam era.

It would seem their purpose is to try to link Bush's government to the Vietnam/Nixon era government. Problem is, nobody cares, and at least a third of the voting population has no memory of that time. The disturbing aspect of all this is that the media biggs are pasting this stuff together for the Dems and showing it as some kind of news story... replace objective reporting with conspiratorial brainwashing...
26 posted on 03/24/2004 5:14:36 AM PST by Godfollow
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To: Ranger
SUV?
How sensitive and aware could these opportunists... er grieving widows be?
I know! who better to give expert testimony on how 911 could have been avoided? Or might it be that regular reporting about the questions and finding in the media is not good enough for them? Why do they need to be there other than to play their role in the Kerry machine?
Do they plan to hold regular press conferences? I can hardly wait.

Kristen Breitweiser, Lorie Van Auken, Mindy Kleinberg and Patty Casazza, huh? That was a nice touch too... an average of 1.75 grieving child per slimeball... er "devastated widow".

27 posted on 03/24/2004 5:14:57 AM PST by Publius6961 (50.3% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks (subject to a final count).)
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Gorelick is an interesting name, especially for someone who worked in the Clinton Administration.

Ms. Gorelick accused Rummy of not protecting the Pentagon from the terrorist attack. In essence, "It was your job to protect it. Why didn't you do anything about it?"





28 posted on 03/24/2004 5:15:39 AM PST by Loyal Buckeye ((Kerry is a flake))
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To: Ranger
An emote-a-thon for these "911 moms" and similar creatures to blow off steam. At the expense of the GWBush administration. No, I don't have much sympathy for these harpies. Their liberal fellow travelers in Congress would have turned down enhanced security measure before 911 .... same as the Clinton crew.
29 posted on 03/24/2004 5:18:56 AM PST by dennisw (“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
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To: mewzilla
Why do you think he, Fielding, Gorelick et al, are on the panel? That panel is a joke. The nation deserves better.

I keep thinking about this all the time. Why not a blue ribbon Presidential Commission? It can ask the tough questions that otherwise will not be asked and I would certainly give it more credence. What's preventing that?

30 posted on 03/24/2004 5:19:31 AM PST by Publius6961 (50.3% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks (subject to a final count).)
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To: Publius6961
I really like that idea. Dueling investigations!
Let's even the playing field. Isn't that a "progressive" mantra?
31 posted on 03/24/2004 5:26:16 AM PST by Publius6961 (50.3% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks (subject to a final count).)
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To: Publius6961
What's preventing that?

Testicular fortitude.

32 posted on 03/24/2004 5:27:58 AM PST by mewzilla
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These four hate-America leftists seemed to be rehashed over and over again in the media in order to give the false impression that "911 moms" and "911 widows" hate Bush. Just not so.
33 posted on 03/24/2004 5:29:45 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Ranger
"Why did it take Condi Rice nine months to develop a counterterrorism policy for Al Qaeda, while it took only two weeks to develop a policy for regime change in Iraq?" Ms. Kleinberg asked rhetorically

Is there any truth to that at all? Where does Kleinberg get this idea that it took 2 weeks to formulate the Iraq plan (when so many libs are saying Bush started planning the "regime change" upon taking office)?

34 posted on 03/24/2004 5:30:04 AM PST by Theo
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To: mewzilla
These women are clueless - given to conspiracy theories - and out to get the Bush administration. They are holding our nation, our security, and the Bush administration hostage.

Their anger is so misplaced and they have been given far too much power and attention.
35 posted on 03/24/2004 5:30:08 AM PST by Spotsy (Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: Ranger
Like most Dems I know, they blame everyone but the terrorists. The elite NY media has alot to do with this attitude.

Because it is easy to sue, write scathing letters, make speeches, and to "have a cause".

It is hard to make a decision for war, fight hard, stay in the fox hole when things go badly, watch soldiers die, and stay the course when the terrorists fight back and kill some more.

But like most Americans, the widows have been enjoying a soft, comfortable, stable, and clean life, where everything is solved in a 1/2 hour sitcom.

If Americans were truly as tough as we used to be, we would be demanding to go into Iran and Syria.

Let's pray daily for strength and wisdom to return to the American people.

36 posted on 03/24/2004 5:30:38 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Ranger
I'm not at all sorry for these "grieving widows".

They are trading on their loss by supporting those who let this happen the first time and who would let it happen again, and again, and again. Their coin is misdirected hatred and a desire to avenge their loss by promoting the ones who were complicit in the very deeds which caused it.

They are fools, and deserve not sympathy but scorn. Their unfortunate loss gives them no immunity from criticism nor does it give them more credibility as to what really happened and why.

37 posted on 03/24/2004 5:38:36 AM PST by Gritty ("Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like liberals do.They don't have the energy"-Ann Coulter)
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To: Ranger
Over three thousand 9-11 mom's and the media has to dig up the musical team, the "Four Ingrates", to sing on cue.
38 posted on 03/24/2004 5:42:54 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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Mr. Ben-Veniste came back at him: "We knew from the Millennium plot [to blow up Los Angeles International Airport] that Al Qaeda was trying to bomb an American airport," he said. The Clinton administration foiled that plot and thought every day about foiling terrorism

Yes, that was an obvious load of cr*ap.

It was an alert American guard at the Canadian border who foiled the Millennium plot, not the Clinton administration.

Clinton's taking credit for that would be like Bush claiming credit for apprehending the beltway snipers.

39 posted on 03/24/2004 5:46:09 AM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: Ranger
Many people--and evidently Teresa Heinz Kerry is one of them--do not understand that passionate commitment is not an indicator of worthiness and that standing up for one's beliefs is only as virtuous as the beliefs.
40 posted on 03/24/2004 5:55:59 AM PST by Savage Beast ("Whom will the terrorists vote for? Not George W. Bush--that's for sure!" ~Happy2BMe)
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