Why Do We Call Them Democrats, When They're Really Communists?

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[Mean Daddy]

I'm doing a paper on Communism for school and I had never read a piece from Karl Marx. The article above is the one I have to write my paper on. After reading it, I can't help but state the obvious that today's Democrat party is not liberal or socialist, rather it's roots are in Communism.

While I understand that not every Democrat is a Communist and should not be painted with such a broad brush, I just can't help but think that Marx was talking about Billary and John F**ing Kerry.

Am I wrong?

[AdamSelene235]

Democracy i.e. mob rule naturally leads to Communism. Socialism is simply the same plant in a different stage of growth.

The real question is: Why do we call them liberals when they do not believe in liberty?

[Torie]

Yes, you are wrong. Communists don't believe in a democratic system, and believe in state ownership of the economy, and a totalitarian society. To equate Kerry et al with that, is silly and tendentious. Team Kerry are social democrats who believe in vigorous redistribution within a market economy by and large, and a spoils system for special interests, ala the founder of the Democrat party, Andrew Jackson. They are skeptical of the US playing too muscular a role in the world, because it detracts from and enervates their favored agenda at home.

FR is not the right place to get a "fair and balanced" view of Democrats. Even I fail in that endeavor sometimes. LOL.

[vpintheak]

No you are not wrong. Re-read the end of the manifesto when Marx and Engles talk about the types of socialist movements. The democrats fall right in. They are marxists through and through.

[endthematrix]

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc.

[endthematrix]

Where do I live again?

[sheik yerbouty]

We call them democrats mostly out of habit.

[Defender2]

That's why I combined the two names together!!!!

I call them, demoCommiecRATS!!!!

[noutopia]

Not in my state of South Carolina.Not in the United States.No Kerry and No Clintoon.We may seceed again.

[Qwinn]

Quite perceptive, actually.

The Democrat Party wasn't always Communist, but they have been utterly infiltrated over the last 50 years. You are correct, at this point they have become virtually indistinguishable.

Also, the notion that Communism is ideologically opposed to democracy is not true - in fact, Communism put democracy as an inevitable component on the path towards communism (in their view). In practice, they found they couldn't hold onto it democratically, but they were never ideologically opposed to it.

Qwinn

[binger]

These two for starters...

[Defender2]

#11. Those two are definitely, demoCommiecRATS!!!!

[Ronzo]

In private, most Democrat politicians are more gung-ho capitalists than most Republicans. But in public, they make Karl Marx look like Ronald Reagan.

The Demcrats profit far too much from capitalism and the free-market to ever go completely Commie --they're too smart for that. However, they all do seem to really like that "one world government" thing, which is scary in and of itself...perhaps a better label for Democrats would be neo-Marxists.

[shield]

Socialism is the 21st century word for a one world government. Just like the word progressive has become a "code word" for a communist... the word socialist is a "code" word for someone who is an Internationalist... i.e someone who wants to institute a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT.

Socialism is taking from those who work and giving to those who don't work. This creates resentment in those who work!

Socialism is allowing unfettered immigration and then taking care of all of the immigrants using the money of those who pay taxes.. ie. those who work... legally or illegally. This is designed to cause an "us and them" mentality which will lead to hate crimes and eventual race war... a divide and conquer manuever which will make a targeted country divide against itself... collapse in revolution, and after the shooting stops and one side prevails... the ELITE come running in with loans from the IMF and World Bank to repair the damage, and that country, like Argentina, has sold its soul to the ELITE, and now must dance to their tune.... forever! This is how the One World Order plans to gain total control of our world.

Socialism will eventually devolve into communism which devolves into totalitarian dictatorship where human rights don't exist. Show me ONE example of a communist country that has human rights.

If you don't believe that socialism and a heavy progressive or graduated income lead to communism, then you have NOT read the 10 Planks of the Communist Revolution.

Socialism is just ONE of those planks!

[TLI]

I call them communist agenda liberals.

Isn't that one of those double-moron thingies?

[I got the rope]

I agree...but I think you should call them Marxists.

[binger]

[beavus]

Why Do We Call Them Democrats, When They're Really Communists?

That's being a little harsh on communists.

[noutopia]

We will bury you.I seem to remember that from my younger days.Was that a Commie that said that? No It was a peace loving democrat.What was that hippie's name,no it was a bad trip.What year is it anyway?

[elbucko]

....obvious that today's Democrat party is not liberal or socialist, rather it's roots are in Communism.

Yes. The modern Democratic Party is a result of the infiltration of communists/socialists during the 20th. Century. Especially during the '30's and the 1960's to today. It has, historically, not been as truly "progressive" as the Republican Party, but likes to present itself as being so. Most of its doctrine is actually "regressive" by expanding government power at the expense of the individual. The Democratic Party, left on its own, would recreate a monarchy.

The best comparative description of communism and capitalism I have ever seen goes like this:

The "Dirty Little Secret" of communism is that its economy produces a shortage of necessities. The "Dirty Little Secret" of capitalism is that its economy produces surpluses of novelties, after the necessities are provided for.

Hope this helps.