[Joe Hadenuf]

Every ass-dragging government parasite I ever met was absolutely convinced the Republic couldn't continue without him cashing his paychecks. Start firing people until only police, courts and the military are left.

I'm sick to death of Big Stupid Government.

I agree Hank.

When I posted this, I was just waiting for the usual suspects to show up and attempt minimize this. Two of the forums big Konservatives arrived like clock work. One was clearly upset.

Yes, it seems government is becoming our biggest growing industry, on the bending backs of the tax payers. It'll only get worse, as local, state and federal governments have grown too large, and all encompassing.

[Hostage]

It's a bigger problem than you think. Government union pension funds are very influential in business investing. permitting and social policy. For example, homosexual marriage and domestic partner benefits are forced on corporations by pension executors by welding stakeholder power.

Another scandal is in knowing what happens to government budget surpluses at year end. Often surpluses are rolled over to fill gaps in pension funding or to create 'future fund allocations' based on unforseen fund deficits, i.e. if funds are invested and losses occur.

And these surpluses occur even if overall goverment expenditures cause them to be in the red! This happens because surpluses are often occurring at lower levels where the so-called surplus disappears into other cost categories such as the retirement fund deficits discussed above.

It's a scandal that deserves alot of exposure.

[little jeremiah]

Another angle to the too many gov't workers is this: not only are there TOO MANY OF THEM, but WHAT THEY DO is often either damn useless or downright pernicious. Not only are staffs, departments and so on bloated like Shelob the giant spider, but WE are paying THEM to harass and torment us.

For instance, building code/permit departments. We pay them for the privilege of having them figure out how to screw us some more, and then we pay for getting screwed as well.

And I can personally attest to the fact that most of the people who work in in the building permit department act like miniature kings and queens.

I agree with one previous poster: we need fire departments, police departments, road guys, water department, and justice system (although most need radical overhauling). Other than that, most areas of life can be self-governed, or something like guilds. Private.

How much worse can it get before we fall before the government cart, like animals pulling a too-heavy load?