[unsycophant]

Get over yourself Mojo. No one said the VVAW wasn't violent. The torch you are trying to whip the crowd into carrying, is whether Kerry conspired with this violent VVAW group to murder a group of Senators.

The FBI says there is no evidence that he did. He says he didn't. His former associates say he didn't. No one connected with the meeting will rat him out and say Kerry did it.

No evidence has yet turned up to indicate that he was involved in any sort of plot to murder anyone. Who actually died? What were the exact details? Name the perpetrators involved. If 500 people were arrested--why wasn't Kerry? What was later brought out in subsequent trials that incriminated him? What's in the 14 boxes of files that Nicosia didn't bother to go through that the FBI missed?

You aren't going to get many normal people to accuse a presidential candidate of conspiring to murder six senators based on your say-so; rumor; speculation; or ommission or revision of facts. If you can prove beyond any doubt that he did--I will be the first to congratulate you. Hope this helps!

[Dales]

The torch you are trying to whip the crowd into carrying, is whether Kerry conspired with this violent VVAW group to murder a group of Senators.

I do not think that is accurate. What I have seen, and it is a question being asked by New York Sun reporters as well as blogs well within the mainstream such as the JunkYardBlog, is the question being raised- Was Kerry present at a VVAW meeting where a plot to assassinate Senators was discussed (and even voted upon).

That such a plot existed and was discussed is not even in question. Cahill admits it. So do others.

The only question is, was Kerry present for it?

If so, he had a legal obligation to report it.

That is the story. There is no need to prove that Kerry was plotting to kill Senators. Just that he was there when it was discussed, and he did nothing. He didn't report it. He didn't resign in protest (he was still calling himself a leader of the group into the next year). He continued to associate himself with this group.

And he wants to be President.

[Hon]

"If 500 people were arrested--why wasn't Kerry?"

As an antiwar leader, John Kerry was arrested with hundreds of others after protesting on the green in Lexington, Mass., on May 31, 1971. The Nixon White House identified Kerry as the movement's most effective spokesman. (AP File Photo)

http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/061703.shtml

How's that go again? "Stupid and smug about it"? LOL!