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GAY COUPLES TO ASK FOR MARRIAGE LICENSES
Cincinnati Enquirer ^ | 3/23/2004 | Connie Mabin (AP)

Posted on 03/23/2004 8:05:15 AM PST by JesseHousman

CLEVELAND - Thom Rankin and Ray Zander have been in love for nearly two decades.

They own a home together. They volunteer together at church. They're active in their community.

On Friday, they will ask for a marriage license they know the state of Ohio forbids them to get.

But that won't stop the pair who will be among about 100 couples who plan to ask Cuyahoga County Probate Court to grant them the licenses.

As much as they'd like to, getting hitched is not the point.

"I hope that it at least brings people to the table to hear our views," said Rankin, a retired mortgage loan business owner from suburban Westlake. "We may not agree, but let's come to an understanding that there are certain rights that need to be given to people."

Court Administrator John Polito said Monday that the licenses would not be granted.

"We have had prior experiences when couples have come in asking for a license. We advise them that the law does not permit for a marriage license issue to people of the same sex," he said.

Gay marriage is not legal in any state. Gov. Bob Taft signed a law in January making Ohio the 38th state to bar recognition of gay marriages and the second to deny some benefits to unmarried employees' partners. The law, which doesn't affect policies of private businesses or local governments, takes effect in May.

The Rev. Jimmie Hicks Jr., of Calvary Church of God in Christ in suburban Cleveland Heights, said he is happy the licenses won't be issued in Cleveland the way 4,037 were given to gay couples recently in San Francisco before a court shut down same-sex marriages performed in the city. The Cleveland Heights councilman has sued to block a domestic registry his city started last month.

"We're made to seem as though we're extremists, that our views are hurtful to people and they're not. It's what we believe," Hicks said. "We don't hate the individual, but we look at the homosexual act just like we look at adultery, at pornography, you know, any sin. That's what the Bible said."

Cleveland Heights issues certificates recognizing gay and straight unmarried couples who apply for the registry. Proponents say the certificates, which bear no legal weight, help couples get shared insurance, hospital visiting rights and other benefits.

Those rights are a big part of what motivates Rankin, 50, and Zander, 51. They have been together 17 years and have wills leaving their possessions to each another if one of them dies.

The couple would like the government to recognize their relationship and to offer some of the 1,000-plus benefits they say are available to straight married couples, including tax breaks and social security death benefits.

Zander, a self-employed home decorator and costume designer, hopes seeking a marriage license will cause people to think about the issue "and hopefully agree with us that this is discrimination, a bias that is unfair in America where everyone is supposed to be treated equal."

Patti Verde, 43, a social worker and part-time pastor at Liberation Church of Christ in suburban Lakewood, also plans to seek a license Friday.

"This is an important effort at this time to help people across the country to see, 'you know, it's not just people in San Francisco who would like to have equal rights,"' she said.

She has been with her partner, Linda Krasienko, for seven years.

Krasienko, 52, a licensed minister and occupational therapist, said she wants some people to see gay relationships differently.

"We are serious about our relationship and our relationship is built on love and commitment, on the same values that they value in their marriages," she said.

Their attempt will come a month after six gay couples tried unsuccessfully to get marriage licenses in Columbus.

This past weekend, 500 people watched dozens of heterosexual couples renew their marriage vows at the Mt. Sinai Baptist Church in Cleveland in what church leaders say was a symbolic stance against gay marriage.

The Lesbian Gay Community Center of Greater Cleveland is organizing the event, which will include a rally outside the court.

"There's a lot against us right now and the more attention we can bring, the more support we can gain, the more likely we are to create change," said Tim Marshall, the group's spokesman.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: civilunion; cleveland; evilagenda; homosexualageanda; homosexuals; marriage; perverts
Thom Rankin and Ray Zander have been in love for nearly two decades.

Then shut up about it! This whole marry your anus crowd is in for a big surprise when their agenda rears up and kicks them in the object of their affections.

They do volunteer work in the church? The big thing satan has going for him is that few believe he exists. Further, these perverts have no concept of how long eternity lasts.

1 posted on 03/23/2004 8:05:15 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: JesseHousman
Thank god Ohio was pro-active about this and got something passed just before the crap hit the fan.
2 posted on 03/23/2004 8:07:06 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: Bikers4Bush
Really! I was wondering what took them so long!
3 posted on 03/23/2004 9:28:38 AM PST by Sister_T (Democrats AND The Partisan Press are the REAL enemies to freedom in the world!)
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To: Sister_T
What I loved was the quotes in the papers from the gay activists who kept saying that what Ohio was doing was permature since they didn't have any plans on challenging the state anyway.

How quickly things change. It's obvious that their plan was to stall the legislation until they could take advantage of us not having anything passed.
4 posted on 03/23/2004 9:45:44 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: JesseHousman
The arguments used by the SODOMITES as to why they should be allowed to marry are only civil related matters. As this article mentions:

Hospital visitation rights

Shared insurance

Social security benefits

The bottom line is that GOD ORDAINED MARRIAGE AS THE UNION OF ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.

All other agreements between people (contracts, agreements, memberships, licenses, etc) are not marriage.

MARRIAGE IS NOT THE UNION OF:

One man and one man.

One woman and one woman.

One man and one sheep.

One mule and one woman.

One dog and one man.

One dog and one woman.

Three canaries and one woman.

Two herefords and one man.

One transvestite and one woman.

One man and one transvestite.

..........and all the other sick, perverted "relationships" that the "Gay, Lesbian and Transgendered" sicko's can dream up.

I hope our elected officials will stand up and put these perverts back in the closet.










5 posted on 03/23/2004 10:06:12 AM PST by ASTM366
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To: JesseHousman
Also in the news: Pigs Demand Relief From Law of Gravity! "Why shouldn't we be allowed to fly," Wilbur asked. "This is discrimination, pure and simple!"
6 posted on 03/23/2004 10:11:35 AM PST by FormerLib (Feja e shqiptarit eshte terorizm.)
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To: JesseHousman
As the other postings today indicate, this is a nationwide movement--evidently well coordinated and certainly OVER-"reported" by an enthusiastic media. But I think the Dems will succeed in playing the "personally opposed but" game long enough to see our social fabric further torn apart. Then they'll say, "But we must be sure to appoint only judges who will preserve THIS constitutional right too!"
7 posted on 03/23/2004 10:48:44 AM PST by madprof98
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