Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Enjoy...

--Boot

1 posted on 03/21/2004 3:34:26 AM PST by Boot Hill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: Cap Huff; Dog; Coop; swarthyguy; Angelus Errare; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Prodigal Son
FYI

If anyone has a more inclusive ping list, would you mind pinging it?

--Boot Hill

2 posted on 03/21/2004 3:36:40 AM PST by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Boot Hill
Thanks Boot.
4 posted on 03/21/2004 10:14:33 AM PST by Dog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Boot Hill
From another fr thread

In fact, the fighting that continued into Sunday is concentrated in about a 30 square mile area near the city of Wana, around the villages of Shin Warsak, Daza Gundai, Kallu Shah, Ghaw Khawa, and Khari Kot.

8 posted on 03/21/2004 2:10:40 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb republicans. - Capt. Tom)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Cap Huff; Dog; Coop; swarthyguy; Angelus Errare; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Prodigal Son
update...

WHY THE WANA AREA?

Much has been made of the fact that the Pakistani tribal areas are desolate, mountainous areas peopled by fierce warlords. But the reasons for al-Qa'ida and the Taliban hiding out there is much more complex than that.

In 1893, Sir Henry Mortimer Durand, the foreign secretary of British India (which included Pakistan) completed a treaty with the Amir Abdul Rahman Khan of Afghanistan to establish what is known today as the "Durand Line" as being the official boundary between Afghanistan and Pakistan. The surveying and mapping that produced that line, was based more on geography and British wishful thinking, than on problems of regional ethnicity. And therein lies the seeds of the current situation today.

To understand the crux of the problem, look at this Map of ethnic distribution in Afghanistan and Pakistan (opens in anew window, honest!) and note the distribution of the Pashtun peoples. Note, in particular that the Pashtun areas in Pakistan are in the narrow band along the western edge of Pakistan comprising the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) and the North West Frontier Province (NWFP). This was Pakistan's "apartheid", to isolate the Pashtuns and their language (Pashto) and fundamentalism from the rest of Pakistan.

The Pashtun people are Sunni fundamentalists, the same faith from which springs the Salafi and the Wahhabist sects that fire the philosophy of Osama bin Laden, al-Qa'ida and, most especially, the Taliban. It is not a surprise then, that the Pashtun people would become famous as the "brutal warriors of the Taliban". No artificial constraint, such as the political boundary between two countries, could restrain this Pashtun support for fundamentalist Islamic causes. Even if it meant harboring terrorists from foreign lands.

The current battle for the tribal areas that Pakistan (and the U.S.) are involved in, not only confronts al-Qa'ida, but also Pashtun fundamentalism. Pakistan has always governed the tribal areas under the principle that "if you don't cause us any problems, we won't cause you any problems". Of the seven tribal agencies within FATA, only North and South Waziristan continue to cause any problems. Pakistan has used the "iron fist and velvet glove" approach to pacify the other tribal areas, but in Waziristan, they are finding, they need more iron fist and less velvet glove.

This battle is winnable.

--Boot Hill

9 posted on 03/21/2004 5:12:24 PM PST by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Cap Huff; Dog; Coop; swarthyguy; Angelus Errare; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Prodigal Son
update...

WHAT IS TASK FORCE 121?

Since the beginning of the Wana operation, there has been much buzz in the press about a major player in the action, namely the mysterious Task Force 121 and its commander, Admiral McRaven.

Task force 121 was established by order of President Bush in July of 2003. It is a special operations, joint service task force, comprised of elements of the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, CIA and DIA. It has been charged with the task of tracking down and either capturing or killing Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri and Mullah Muhammad Omar and other important terrorist leaders.

From "Task Force 121 likely to hunt Bin Laden in Pakistan":

Task Force 121’s composition includes four major elements:

Grey Fox: a deep-cover organisation based at Fort Belvoir in Northern Virginia. Members specialise in spying and intercepting communications. They carry hardware that can tap into electronic-eavesdropping satellites and can splice fibre-optic cables. Grey Fox maintains a fleet of aircraft at Baltimore-Washington International Airport. On occasion, members enter countries on "non-official cover" using assumed identities. Created principally to combat international drug smugglers, Grey Fox has turned out to be the perfect unit for Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld’s demand for "actionable intelligence" to kill or capture Al Qaeda operatives and other terrorists.

The army once maintained Grey Fox, but after September 11 the Pentagon shifted direct control to Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) at Fort Bragg, NC. Ultimately, Grey Fox reports to US Special Operations Command in Tampa, Fla.

Although officials still refer to the intelligence unit as Grey Fox, a defence source said its code name was changed during the war on terrorism. The source asked that the new designation not be reported. Grey Fox has operated under a number of different code words. In the early 1990s, for example, it was called "Capacity Gear".

JSOC: This is the headquarters for an elite 800-member group of Army Delta Force and Navy SEALs who specialise in counter-terrorism. Left mostly on the shelf pre-September 11, JSOC is today the most active it has ever been.

JSOC was the bulk of Task Force in Afghanistan that hunted Bin Laden, Mulla Omar and other high-value targets. It then reinvented itself as Task Force 121 in Iraq. Sources say it’s likely the task force will take on a new designating number now that it is back in Afghanistan.

JSOC and Grey Fox make up the "black" world of special operations. The "white" units — which operate more publicly — include Green Berets and civil-affairs officers.

CIA Special Activities Division: These are CIA paramilitaries who can aid Task Force 121 by setting up networks of sources in Iraq and Afghanistan, and provide intelligence directly to the warriors.

The 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment: This fleet of Black Hawk, Chinook and AH-6 "Little Bird" helicopters ferries the Delta Force and SEALs where they need to go, quickly, at night, at low altitudes. Saddam was loaded onto a "Little Bird" Dec. 13 and taken to Tikrit after Task Force 121 and a 4th Infantry Division unit found him hiding in a hole on a farm.

[snip]

The 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (SOAR), also known as the Night Stalkers (more detail here and here), is the group responsible for many of the "black helicopter" stories that were so common a few years back. They are also the black ops group that practiced the assaults on a number of small American cities as training exercises in preparation for just the kind of operations they are currently conducting in Iraq, Afghanistan (and dare we say it) Pakistan.

--Boot Hill

10 posted on 03/21/2004 5:12:35 PM PST by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Boot Hill; Cap Huff; Dog; Coop; swarthyguy; Angelus Errare; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Prodigal Son
Pakistani army convoy attacked


Mar 23, 2004


Attackers ambushed a Pakistani army convoy on Tuesday, killing 12 soldiers and wounding 22 more, as tribal elders tried to persuade encircled al Qaeda fighters to surrender.

The army, which says it has trapped hundreds of militants and their Pakistani tribal allies in rugged territory near the Afghan border, held fire on Monday to let a delegation of elders talk peace.

However, a convoy heading for the town of Wana to support the operation against the militants was ambushed by fighters with rockets.

"There were 12 dead and 22 wounded," one government official told Reuters. "The army has blocked the road from both ends and no one is allowed to go in."

There was no information on casualties among the attackers.

The battle, involving 5,000 troops, is the biggest Pakistan has ever waged in its semi-autonomous tribal area and is part of a major push to try and sweep foreign militants from the Afghan border region and catch al Qaeda chief, Osama bin Laden.

US forces are hunting on the other side of the border. The twin operations come amid heightened worldwide anxiety over al Qaeda attacks.


17 posted on 03/22/2004 12:29:52 PM PST by swarthyguy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson