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To: CGVet58
"They will turn out to vote - hate is a powerful motivator."

Actually, the opposite is true. People turn out "for" things. Hate/anger yields hopelessness, lack of faith in the system, feelings that it won't make a difference.

Anger is volatile, it could easily be turned against Kerry. Especially because there is no real unifying idea(s) on the other side, more a loose coalition of single gripes. If Kerry doesn't tow the specific lines, they won't show up.

The anti-war crowd is really feeling out of the loop right now. Kerry is really stuck here, because that angy base is due mainly to Iraq.

Kerry will not just say, pull the US out. Instead he will wobble towards some vague "let the UN take over".

This really pisses off the anti war crowd, the Deaniacs, activists etc. They will be swayed by Nader's "there is no difference" posture.

So I am optimistic. I think there is good reason to be.
68 posted on 03/21/2004 1:20:51 PM PST by pending
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To: pending
"...Actually, the opposite is true. People turn out "for" things. Hate/anger yields hopelessness, lack of faith in the system, feelings that it won't make a difference..."

Precisely the feelings of impotence that affect people who believe in hope, who have faith, and who can feel a sense of impotence when faced with undertaking the salient issue of our time, which is taking back our country from the leftward lurching fifth column amongst us that conspire to whittle away at our strengths in conjunction with the terrorist assault from without. Generally, my experience in dealing with the great majority of leftists (I live in CT, work in NYC area - I'm surrounded by them) continually reiterates the following 2 empirical truths: (1) they are "LEFTISTS", not Liberals - we are the modern day liberals; and (2) the qualities you subscribe, which I quote above, are generally held by conservative folks.

You may be right - and a part of me hopes so - but I believe there are enough people in this country who hate this country enough to see it crippled, if not destroyed. Have you visited the democratic underground website lately? How about the datalounge website, which was running a thread where posters were boasting of being make-believe freepers to "insinuate" themselves into our confidence while sowing seeds of doubt regarding the homosexual agenda? ( http://www.datalounge.com/datalounge/forums/index.html?thread=2924542&stack=2%2C1%2C1%3Athread&continuebutton=Not+Now ) click "not now" to see the thread.

There's plenty of modern-day Tories in our country, ace... I am aware of the historical significance of that pejorative, and use it deliberately.

CGVet58
72 posted on 03/21/2004 1:57:38 PM PST by CGVet58 (God has granted us liberty, and we owe Him courage in return)
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