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"...Actually, the opposite is true. People turn out "for" things. Hate/anger yields hopelessness, lack of faith in the system, feelings that it won't make a difference..."

Precisely the feelings of impotence that affect people who believe in hope, who have faith, and who can feel a sense of impotence when faced with undertaking the salient issue of our time, which is taking back our country from the leftward lurching fifth column amongst us that conspire to whittle away at our strengths in conjunction with the terrorist assault from without. Generally, my experience in dealing with the great majority of leftists (I live in CT, work in NYC area - I'm surrounded by them) continually reiterates the following 2 empirical truths: (1) they are "LEFTISTS", not Liberals - we are the modern day liberals; and (2) the qualities you subscribe, which I quote above, are generally held by conservative folks.

You may be right - and a part of me hopes so - but I believe there are enough people in this country who hate this country enough to see it crippled, if not destroyed. Have you visited the democratic underground website lately? How about the datalounge website, which was running a thread where posters were boasting of being make-believe freepers to "insinuate" themselves into our confidence while sowing seeds of doubt regarding the homosexual agenda? ( http://www.datalounge.com/datalounge/forums/index.html?thread=2924542&stack=2%2C1%2C1%3Athread&continuebutton=Not+Now ) click "not now" to see the thread.

There's plenty of modern-day Tories in our country, ace... I am aware of the historical significance of that pejorative, and use it deliberately.

CGVet58

I admit to shaking my head at times, but lets look at this thing.

We have rational, thought out perspectives based on a wary consciousness of history, and a strong base of faith. there is a clear delineation for us, right and wrong. It is in a lot of ways very simple.
The depth of this is not comprehendable to the opposition.
In fact, this is mistaken for a lack of depth.

But it is not us who will wither when tested, is it?

I do worry about short term glitches...gas hitting 3 bux per in september...aaarg.
But in the long run, it really is no contest. They will move to the latest fad cause, we will still be here, growing stronger.

It has been some time since 1979, you recall, I am sure.

Flash back to that, then '69... The expansion to cable and the internet has favored this side. Folks in charge of thier own input are abandoning the old elites.

This side of the table has never been so strong really. It is by no means over, but the progress is clear, and steady.

Bang em with the truth, the folks will see it.