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The Theory of Comparative Advantage
The International Economics Study Center ^ | Unknown | Steven Suranovic

Posted on 03/19/2004 7:54:53 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez

The theory of comparative advantage is perhaps the most important concept in international trade theory. It is also one of the most commonly misunderstood principles. There is a popular story told amongst economists that once when an economics skeptic asked Paul Samuelson (a Nobel laureate in economics) to provide a meaningful and non-trivial result from the economics discipline, Samuelson quickly responded with, "comparative advantage."

The sources of the misunderstandings are easy to identify. First, the principle of comparative advantage is clearly counter-intuitive. Many results from the formal model are contrary to simple logic. Secondly, the theory is easy to confuse with another notion about advantageous trade, known in trade theory as the theory of absolute advantage. The logic behind absolute advantage is quite intuitive. This confusion between these two concepts leads many people to think that they understand comparative advantage when in fact, what they understand, is absolute advantage. Finally, the theory of comparative advantage is all too often presented only in its mathematical form. Using numerical examples or diagrammatic representations are extremely useful in demonstrating the basic results and the deeper implications of the theory. However, it is also easy to see the results mathematically, without ever understanding the basic intuition of the theory.

The early logic that free trade could be advantageous for countries was based on the concept of absolute advantages in production. Adam Smith wrote in The Wealth of Nations,

"If a foreign country can supply us with a commodity cheaper than we ourselves can make it, better buy it of them with some part of the produce of our own industry, employed in a way in which we have some advantage. " (Book IV, Section ii, 12)

The idea here is simple and intuitive. If our country can produce some set of goods at lower cost than a foreign country, and if the foreign country can produce some other set of goods at a lower cost than we can produce them, then clearly it would be best for us to trade our relatively cheaper goods for their relatively cheaper goods. In this way both countries may gain from trade.

The original idea of comparative advantage dates to the early part of the 19th century. Although the model describing the theory is commonly referred to as the "Ricardian model", the original description of the idea can be found in an Essay on the External Corn Trade by Robert Torrens in 1815. David Ricardo formalized the idea using a compelling, yet simple, numerical example in his 1817 book titled, On the Principles of Political Economy and Taxation. The idea appeared again in James Mill's Elements of Political Economy in 1821. Finally, the concept became a key feature of international political economy upon the publication of Principles of Political Economy by John Stuart Mill in 1848.(1)

David Ricardo's Numerical Example

Because the idea of comparative advantage is not immediately intuitive, the best way of presenting it seems to be with an explicit numerical example as provided by David Ricardo. Indeed some variation of Ricardo's example lives on in most international trade textbooks today. (See page 40-5 in this text)

In his example Ricardo imagined two countries, England and Portugal producing two goods, cloth and wine, using labor as the sole input in production. He assumed that the productivity of labor (i.e., the quantity of output produced per worker) varied between industries and across countries. However, instead of assuming, as Adam Smith did, that England is more productive in producing one good and Portugal is more productive in the other; Ricardo assumed that Portugal was more productive in both goods. Based on Smith's intuition, then, it would seem that trade could not be advantageous, at least for England.

However, Ricardo demonstrated numerically that if England specialized in producing one of the two goods, and if Portugal produced the other, then total world output of both goods could rise! If an appropriate terms of trade (i.e., amount of one good traded for another) were then chosen, both countries could end up with more of both goods after specialization and free trade then they each had before trade. This means that England may nevertheless benefit from free trade even though it is assumed to be technologically inferior to Portugal in the production of everything,.

As it turned out, specialization in any good would not suffice to guarantee the improvement in world output. Only one of the goods would work. Ricardo showed that the specialization good in each country should be that good in which the country had a comparative advantage in production. To identify a country's comparative advantage good requires a comparison of production costs across countries. However, one does not compare the monetary costs of production or even the resource costs (labor needed per unit of output) of production. Instead one must compare the opportunity costs of producing goods across countries.

A country is said to have a comparative advantage in the production of a good (say cloth) if it can produce cloth at a lower opportunity cost than another country. The opportunity cost of cloth production is defined as the amount of wine that must be given up in order to produce one more unit of cloth. Thus England would have the comparative advantage in cloth production relative to Portugal if it must give up less wine to produce another unit of cloth than the amount of wine that Portugal would have to give up to produce another unit of cloth.

All in all, this condition is rather confusing. Suffice it to say, that it is quite possible, indeed likely, that although England may be less productive in producing both goods relative to Portugal, it will nonetheless have a comparative advantage in the production of one of the two goods. Indeed there is only one circumstance in which England would not have a comparative advantage in either good, and in this case Portugal also would not have a comparative advantage in either good. In other words, either each country has the comparative advantage in one of the two goods or neither country has a comparative advantage in anything.

Another way to define comparative advantage is by comparing productivities across industries and countries. Thus suppose, as before, that Portugal is more productive than England in the production of both cloth and wine. If Portugal is twice as productive in cloth production relative to England but three times as productive in wine, then Portugal's comparative advantage is in wine, the good in which its productivity advantage is greatest. Similarly, England's comparative advantage good is cloth, the good in which its productivity disadvantage is least. This implies that to benefit from specialization and free trade, Portugal should specialize and trade the good in which it is "most best" at producing, while England should specialize and trade the good in which it is "least worse" at producing.

Note that trade based on comparative does not contradict Adam Smith's notion of advantageous trade based on absolute advantage. If as in Smith's example, England were more productive in cloth production and Portugal were more productive in wine, then by we would say that England has an absolute advantage in cloth production while Portugal has an absolute advantage in wine. If we calculated comparative advantages, then England would also have the comparative advantage in cloth and Portugal would have the comparative advantage in wine. In this case, gains from trade could be realized if both countries specialized in their comparative, and absolute, advantage goods. Advantageous trade based on comparative advantage, then, covers a larger set of circumstances while still including the case of absolute advantage and hence is a more general theory.

The Ricardian Model - Assumptions and Results

The modern version of the Ricardian model and its results are typically presented by constructing and analyzing an economic model of an international economy. In its most simple form the model assumes two countries producing two goods using labor as the only factor of production. Goods are assumed homogeneous (identical) across firms and countries. Labor is homogeneous within a country but heterogeneous (non-identical) across countries. Goods can be transported costlessly between countries. Labor can be reallocated costlessly between industries within a country but cannot move between countries. Labor is always fully employed. Production technology differences across industries and across countries and are reflected in labor productivity parameters. The labor and goods markets are assumed to be perfectly competitive in both countries. Firms are assumed to maximize profit while consumers (workers) are assumed to maximize utility. (See page 40-2 for a more complete description)

The primary issue in the analysis of this model is what happens when each country moves from autarky (no trade) to free trade with the other country. In other words what are the effects of trade. The main things we care about are trade's effects on the prices of the goods in each country, the production levels of the goods, employment levels in each industry, the pattern of trade (who exports and who imports what), consumption levels in each country, wages and incomes, and the welfare effects both nationally and individually.

Using the model one can show that, in autarky, each country will produce some of each good. Because of the technology differences, relative prices of the two goods will differ between countries. The price of each country's comparative advantage good will be lower than the price of the same good in the other country. If one country has an absolute advantage in the production of both goods (as assumed by Ricardo) then real wages of workers (i.e., the purchasing power of wages) in that country will be higher in both industries compared to wages in the other country. In other words, workers in the technologically advanced country would enjoy a higher standard of living than in the technologically inferior country. The reason for this is that wages are based on productivity, thus in the country that is more productive, workers get higher wages.

The next step in the analysis is to assume that trade between countries is suddenly liberalized and made free. The initial differences in relative prices of the goods between countries in autarky will stimulate trade between the countries. Since the differences in prices arise directly out of differences in technology between countries, it is the differences in technology that cause trade in the model. Profit-seeking firms in each country's comparative advantage industry would recognize that the price of their good is higher in the other country. Since transportation costs are zero, more profit can be made through export than with sales domestically. Thus each country would export the good in which they have a comparative advantage. Trade flows would increase until the price of each good is equal across countries. In the end, the price of each country's export good (its comparative advantage good) will rise and the price of its import good (its comparative disadvantage good) will fall.

The higher price received for each country's comparative advantage good would lead each country to specialize in that good. To accomplish this, labor would have to move from the comparative disadvantaged industry into the comparative advantage industry. This implies that one industry goes out of business in each country. However, because the model assumes full employment and costless mobility of labor, all of these workers are immediately gainfully employed in the other industry.

One striking result here is that even when one country is technologically superior to the other in both industries, one of these industries would go out of business when opening to free trade. Thus, technological superiority is not enough to guarantee continued production of a good in free trade. A country must have a comparative advantage in production of a good, rather than an absolute advantage, to guarantee continued production in free trade. From the perspective of a less developed country, the developed countries' superior technology need not imply that LDC industries cannot compete in international markets.

Another striking result is that the technologically superior country's comparative advantage industry survives while the same industry disappears in the other country, even though the workers in the other country's industry has lower wages. In other words, low wages in another country in a particular industry is not sufficient information to know which country's industry would perish under free trade. From the perspective of a developed country, freer trade may not result in a domestic industry's decline just because the foreign firms pay their workers lower wages.

The movement to free trade generates an improvement in welfare in both countries both individually and nationally. Specialization and trade will increase the set of consumption possibilities, compared with autarky, and will make possible an increase in consumption of both goods, nationally. These aggregate gains are often described as improvements in production and consumption efficiency. Free trade raises aggregate world production efficiency because more of both goods are likely to be produced with the same number of workers. Free trade also improves aggregate consumption efficiency, which implies that consumers have a more pleasing set of choices and prices available to them.

Real wages (and incomes) of individual workers are also shown to rise in both countries. Thus, every worker can consume more of both goods in free trade compared with autarky. In short, everybody benefits from free trade in both countries. In the Ricardian model trade is truly a win-win situation.

Defending Against Skeptics:
The True Meaning and Intuition of the Theory of Comparative Advantage

Many people who learn about the theory of comparative advantage quickly convince themselves that its ability to describe the real world is extremely limited, if not, non-existent. Although the results follow logically from the assumptions, the assumptions are easily assailed as unrealistic. For example, the model assumes only two countries producing two goods using just one factor of production. There is no capital or land or other resources needed for production. The real world, on the other hand, consists of many countries producing many goods using many factors of production. Each market is assumed to be perfectly competitive, when in reality there are many industries in which firms have market power. Labor productivity is assumed fixed, when in actuality it changes over time, perhaps based on past production levels. Full employment is assumed, when clearly workers cannot be immediately and costlessly moved to other industries. Also, all workers are assumed identical. This means that when a worker is moved from one industry to another, he or she is immediately as productive as every other worker who was previously employed there. Finally, the model assumes that technology differences are the only differences that exist between the countries.

With so many unrealistic assumptions it is difficult for some people to accept the conclusions of the model with any confidence, especially when so many of the results are counterintuitive. Indeed one of the most difficult aspects of economic analysis is how to interpret the conclusions of models. Models are, by their nature, simplifications of the real world and thus all economic models contain unrealistic assumptions. Therefore, to dismiss the results of economic analysis on the basis of unrealistic assumptions means that one must dismiss all insights contained within the entire economics discipline. Surely, this is not practical or realistic. Economic models in general and the Ricardian model in particular do contain insights that most likely carry over to the more complex real world. The following story is meant to explain some of the insights within the theory of comparative advantage by placing the model into a more familiar setting.

A Gardening Story

Suppose it is early spring and it is time to prepare the family backyard garden for the first planting of the year. The father in the household sets aside one Sunday afternoon to do the job but hopes to complete the job as quickly as possible. Preparation of the garden requires the following tasks. First, the soil must be turned over and broken up using the roto-tiller, then the soil must be raked and smoothed. Finally, seeds must be planted or sowed.

This year the father's seven year old son is anxious to help. The question at hand is whether the son should be allowed to help if one's only objective is to complete the task in the shortest amount of time possible.

At first thought, the father is reluctant to accept help. Clearly each task would take the father less time to complete than the time it would take the son. In other words, the father can perform each task more efficiently than the seven year old son. The father estimates that it will take him three hours to prepare the garden if he works alone, as shown in the following table.

Task Completion Time (hours)
Roto-Tilling 1.0
Raking 1.0
Planting 1.0
Total 3.0

On second thought, the father decides to let his son help according to the following procedure. First the father begins the roto-tilling. Once he has completed half of the garden, the son begins raking the roto-tilled section while the father finishes roto-tilling the rest of the garden plot. After the father finishes roto-tilling he begins planting seeds in the section the son has already raked. Suppose the son rakes slower than the father plants, and that the father completes the sowing process just as the son finishes raking. Note this implies that raking takes the son almost 2 hours compared to one hour for the father. However, because the son's work is done simultaneously with the father's work, it does not add to the total time for the project. Under this plan the time needed to complete the tasks in shown in the following table.

Task Completion Time (hours)
Roto-Tilling 1.0
Raking & Planting 1.0
Total 2.0

Notice that the total time needed to prepare the garden has fallen from 3 hours to 2 hours. The garden is prepared in less time with the son's help than it could have been done independently by the father. In other words, it makes sense to employ the son in (garden) production even though the son is less efficient than the dad in every one of the three required tasks. Overall efficiency is enhanced when both resources (the father and son) are fully employed.

This arrangement also clearly benefits both the father and son. The father completes the task in less time and thus winds up with some additional leisure time which the father and son can enjoy together. The son also benefits because he has contributed his skills to a productive activity and will enjoy a sense of accomplishment. Thus both parties benefit from the arrangement.

However, it is important to allocate the tasks correctly between the father and the son. Suppose the father allowed his son to do the roto-tilling instead. In this case the time needed for each task might look as follows.

Task Completion Time (hours)
Roto-Tilling 4.0
Raking 1.0
Planting 1.0
Total 6.0

The time needed for roto-tilling has now jumped to 4 hours because we have included the time spent traveling to and from the hospital and the time spent in the emergency room! Once the father and son return, the father must complete the remaining tasks on his own. Overall efficiency declines in this case compared to the father acting alone.

This highlights the importance of specializing in production of the task in which you have a comparative advantage. Even though the father can complete all three tasks quicker than his son, his relative advantage in roto-tilling greatly exceeds his advantage in raking and planting. One might say that the father is most-best at roto-tilling while he is least-best at raking and planting. On the other hand, the son is least-worse at raking and planting but most-worse at roto-tilling. Finally, because of the sequential nature of the tasks, the son can remain fully employed only if he works on the middle task, namely raking.

Interpreting the Theory of Comparative Advantage

The garden story offers an intuitive explanation for the theory of comparative advantage and also provides a useful way of interpreting the model results. The usual way of stating the Ricardian model results is to say that countries will specialize in their comparative advantage good and trade them to the other country such that everyone in both countries benefit. Stated this way it is easy to imagine how it would not hold true in the complex real world.

A better way to state the results is as follows. The Ricardian model shows that if we want to maximize total output in the world then,

first, fully employ all resources worldwide;

second, allocate those resources within countries to each country's comparative advantage industries;

and third, allow the countries to trade freely thereafter.

In this way we might raise the well being of all individuals despite differences in relative productivities. In this description, we do not predict that a result will carry over to the complex real world. Instead we carry the logic of comparative advantage to the real world and ask how things would have to look to achieve a certain result (maximum output and benefits). In the end we should not say that the model of comparative advantage tells us anything about what will happen when two countries begin to trade, instead we should say that the theory tells us some things that can happen.


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To: CrucifiedTruth
Call you the N word? Are you out of your mind?

Lookit, I am working on a Master's Degree in History, emphasis on the 20th century, especially the period between WWI and WWII. One of the classes I've taken was on the history of the Nazi party, taught by Dr. Peter Black, the chief historian of the Holocaust Museum. And for my term paper, the topic was Nazi economics.

I've read a couple dozen books on German economics in the early 20th century.

So please don't get your knickers in a twist when I talk about Nazi economics, a topic you seem to know nothing about. Obviously I am wasting my time discussing the history of autarky with you.

State control of the economy has never worked, be it mercantilism, autarky, socialism, central planning, it's all been tried, and it's always failed. Miserably.
141 posted on 03/21/2004 7:42:53 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: CrucifiedTruth
Von Mises on autarky. I can't improve on the words of this master of the subject.
http://www.mises.org/mmmp/mmmp10.asp
142 posted on 03/21/2004 7:49:55 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: CobaltBlue
Are you talking to yourself? The topic has nothing to do with Nazi economics. Just because you have degree in European War History doesn't mean that you understand the American economic history. Much less the present reality. Amazingly, you don't seem to be able to lock on it at all. Please, keep living in you closet and don't fret if I fail to be impressed. (Luckily) I'm not your student.
143 posted on 03/21/2004 8:14:31 AM PST by CrucifiedTruth (The Crucified Truth lives forever.)
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To: CrucifiedTruth
The reason I bring up the Nazis is that they tried your idea and it failed. They tried their best to control industry and capital according to an elaborate master plan, but elaborate master plans are not able to respond to the almost random, almost chaotic, flow of information necessary for the function of free markets.

You want the government to decide how many factories people build, and what kind of goods they produce, and that doesn't work. Central planning doesn't work. Period, end of message. Central planning causes poverty. Every country that has ever tried central planning has turned into an economic wasteland.

The US, on the other hand, is incredibly prosperous, due to the free flow of capital through free markets.

The US has never had central planning. We've never had governments telling us what industries we need. We don't need that. Never have, never will.

Ricardo was right. We're better off producing what we produce best, rather than worst.


144 posted on 03/21/2004 8:27:33 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: Willie Green; CobaltBlue
What's truly hysterical is your defense of a known, self-admitted Nazi sympathizer Willie.

"He only admired their state-of-the-art military aviation technology."

No Willie, he wanted the US to ally itself with Hitler's Germany, and despised Great Britain.

(photo taken at a 1941 America First rally - Burton K Wheeler next to Charles Lindbergh)

"There is only one danger in the world-that is the yellow danger. China and Japan are really bound together against the white race. There could only have been one efficient weapon against this alliance.... Germany.... the ideal setup would have been to have had Germany take over Poland and Russia, in collaboration with the British, as a bloc against the yellow people and Bolshevism. But instead, the British and the fools in Washington had to interfere. The British envied the Germans and wanted to rule the world forever. Britain is the real cause of all the trouble in the world today." -- Charles Lindbergh, December 17, 1941 (ten days after the attack on Pearl Harbor)

Willie's other "heroes" include Henry Ford, author of The International Jew, The World's Foremost Problem, and Patrick J. Buchanan, America's best known Hitler apologist.

Willie quotes Karl Marx's attack on the western economic models, and believes the Herbert Matthews-New York Times version if Fidel Castro's proletariat revolution and how the evils of American Imperialism brought Castro to power, as he demonstrates all over this thread.

145 posted on 03/21/2004 8:28:23 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
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To: CrucifiedTruth
"You don't seem to know the long history of US protectionism that actually made this country what it is

Show me.

146 posted on 03/21/2004 8:30:15 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
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To: CobaltBlue
In Cuba, the middle and even some upper class supported Castro's revolution because of his promises to restore the constitution, and hold free elections...he was after all, one of them. Once they figured out that Castro was a communist, they fled the country.

One of the main reasons for the incredible success of the Cuban immigrants in the US, is the fact that nearly the entire middle and upper class of Cuban's socioeconomic machine migrated here.
147 posted on 03/21/2004 8:36:31 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
LOL!

Thanks for posting that picture, Louie!
Everybody can now verify that it's just another piece of whacknut smear propaganda
from a lefty-tinfoil site called: The Lindbergh Kidnapping Hoax

LOL! You might as well have just posted a picture of yourself with Ed Asner wearing your "Free Mumia" t-shirts.

ROTFLMAO!

148 posted on 03/21/2004 8:38:16 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
I know, don't believe what you see, believe what Willie tells you.

That's not Lindbergh Siege Heiling in that picture, those are not Lindbergh's words.

LOL!!!

You're such a card Willie, or is it you're a card carrying communist?

Another one of those things where you expect people not to believe their lying eyes, right Willie?

Like Buchanan when he claims that the reason Hitler killed all those Jews is because America made him do it.

Lindbergh flew missions in WWII, just not against his Nazi heroes.

You can't refute the pictures and images, so you attack the source.

It wasn't only Monica learning at Clinton's knees I guess.

149 posted on 03/21/2004 9:21:30 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
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To: CobaltBlue
You keep talking to yourself. The US economy has (or had) nothing to do with the German socialist nonsense. You are on the wrong planet. There are ways to use the market forces to balance the economy. Go look up what Warren Buffet said just a few sort months ago. There are hundreds of good ways to do it within the market. If the problem is recognized then the solution will be selected in the due manner. I repeated the problem many times. Everyone with eyes can see it. The rest, please, excuse me.
150 posted on 03/21/2004 9:28:51 AM PST by CrucifiedTruth (The Crucified Truth lives forever.)
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To: CrucifiedTruth
Go look up what Warren Buffet said just a few sort months ago. There are hundreds of good ways to do it within the market.

Squanderville versus Thriftville (Warren Buffet) ^
      Posted by dennisw
On News/Activism ^ 01/07/2004 11:35:03 PM EST with 15 comments


fortune ^ | oct 2003 |
Warren Buffet
By Warren E. Buffett, FORTUNE I'm about to deliver a warning regarding the U.S. trade deficit and also suggest a remedy for the problem. But first I need to mention two reasons you might want to be skeptical about what I say. To begin, my forecasting record with respect to macroeconomics is far from inspiring. For example, over the past two decades I was excessively fearful of inflation. More to the point at hand, I started way back in 1987 to publicly worry about our mounting trade deficits -- and, as you know, we've not only survived but also thrived....

151 posted on 03/21/2004 9:33:10 AM PST by dennisw (“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
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To: CrucifiedTruth; Willie Green
More garbage from the free trade cultists happily chugging down their purple kool-aid. The free trade theories of the "deficits don't matter" crowd are as stupid as communism. As inflexible and failed as communism
152 posted on 03/21/2004 9:36:37 AM PST by dennisw (“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I know, don't believe what you see, believe what Willie tells you.
That's not Lindbergh Siege Heiling in that picture,

Raising one's right hand in a crowd is a common gesture, Louie.
Heck, sports-fans at an arena or stadium do it all the time to get the attention of the peanut, popcorn or Coca-Cola vendor.
Who knows why Lindbergh was making that gesture?
Trying to get somebody's attention, I suppose.
Or perhaps they were taking some kind of vote: "All in favor, raise your hand and say 'aye'".
Anyway, some photographer caught a picture of Lindbergh with his right hand raised and the Left-wing smear fanatics pounced upon it as a "nazi" salute.
Big whoop. You can find pictures of any American politician who ever attended a political rally or convention with their right hand raised for one reason or another.

Face the truth, Louie.
Your "irrefutable evidence" comes from the same marxist extremists who maintain that Ethel and Julius Rosenberg were innocent.
You are no conservative.
You are an imposter who posts leftist trash to make conservatives look bad.

153 posted on 03/21/2004 9:40:13 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
those are not Lindbergh's words.

What about those words, Louie?
Looks to me like Lindbergh is accusing the Chinese and Japanese of being racists.
But I suppose you're one of those marxists who believe that only white people are racist.

As far as staying neutral and pitting the Nazis against the Bolsheviks?
Heck, that's a valid political strategy.
Especially considering that the socialists in FDR's administration had scuttled development our own military capabilities.
But it sure pi$$ed-off those FDR socialists that Lindbergh thought communism was the greater evil.
Yep, Louie. That's probably what pi$$es you off as well.

It's a good thing we had a vast and capable industrial infrastructure back then.
Because of FDR's socialists, we sure were unprepared to enter that war.
Thank God we had the capability of rapidly converting our factories to wartime production after we were attacked.
Oh, those are the same factories that you want to outsource overseas, aren't they Louie?

154 posted on 03/21/2004 10:10:57 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
Raising one's right hand in a crowd is a common gesture, Louie."

You think all those people are asking for permission to go to the bathroom Willie?

ROTFLMAO!!!

That raised right hand, the Nazi cross award, the pictures of Lindbergh hanging around with the Nazi high command, his advocating an alliance between America and Germany, his words that the best plan would be for Germany to conquer Poland and Russia, his hostility toward England, his work for the openly anti-Semitic Henry Ford, his statements about racial purity.

You know that old saying Willie...


155 posted on 03/21/2004 10:14:01 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
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To: dennisw
The free trade theories of the "deficits don't matter" crowd are as stupid as communism. As inflexible and failed as communism

To my knowledge, such theories are used to deceive countries to ruin their economies, create political instability and then enslave them under some centrally controlled socialist oligarchy.

It's time to understand that the lack of economic rules does not constitute free trade (or free market). It constitutes anarchy and destruction. There are countless ways to qualify as a capitalist economy but still get the rules wrong - as so many countries have shown. There are a few ways to get them right. Fortunately, the Founding Fathers got them mostly right. Unfortunately, we are forgetting their message that freedom, independence (including economic independence) is what matters most. Hopefully we'll wake up soon.
156 posted on 03/21/2004 10:20:00 AM PST by CrucifiedTruth (The Crucified Truth lives forever.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
his advocating an alliance between America and Germany

He didn't advocate any such "alliance", stooge.
He advocated neutrality.
But I can understand why the distinction is invisible to your marxist perspective.

157 posted on 03/21/2004 10:31:33 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: dennisw
In the meantime, America continues to be incredibly prosperous. You can't argue with success. Well, you can, but it won't do you any good.

158 posted on 03/21/2004 10:52:08 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: Willie Green
There is no such thing as neutrality Willie.

There most certainly isn't neutrality of moral values, which Lindbergh lacked.

He knew what was going on in Germany, and wanted those who could stop it not only not to, but by their inactions support it.

If you stand by and watch a child being raped and murdered you're not being neutral Willie, you are an accessory to rape and murder.

Lindbergh was an open and vocal advocate of racial purity, and he wanted the US to do nothing while Hitler murdered millions in the name of racial purity.

Lindbergh wanted the US to be an accessory to genocide. That would have made America Hitler's ally.

159 posted on 03/21/2004 10:59:21 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
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dennis is all about sound bytes lacking substance.
160 posted on 03/21/2004 11:00:16 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
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