[Petronski]

Uh, there were several specific assertions made by Havoc (and others as well) about various items on this thread. Several folks requested specific sources for the assertions made - assertions being represented as fact.

But you don't understand: Havoc IS the source, the citation reads "Havoc says so." He is the alpha and the omega.

[Havoc]

Havoc is not the source. Havoc provided you with enough information to research it yourself in order to satisfy yourself as to what I've proffered. Instead of doing so, you attack and besmearch myself and said source. You have no interest in the fact, your interest is the attack. Just as you had no interest in the point of contention only in where you could find fault on a peripheral matter. Now, I'm off to eat. Perhaps you can recover yourself some level of honesty in that time? No?

[Cronos]

But you don't understand: Havoc IS the source, the citation reads "Havoc says so." He is the alpha and the omega.

True, and the rest of us just follow Juli baby, the Anti Christ, a.k.a Vicki. Some follow Vicki Jeanie Robinson, the Queen of Episcopalia.

But then if we found scum to play with, we'd lose

Maaan, I am going to bookmark this link for laughs!