[Cronos]

You're right, I shouldn't ask for actual sites, just belief when someone says its written somewhere about something. otherwise it seems that I snipe at the heals. But then half-truths are SO much easier to prove.

[Havoc]

I gave citation for where it came from - a debate between Dave Hunt and Gerald Matatics. It was only broadcast to the world. I noted that it isn't web published. I didn't say it isn't available in hardcopy. What do you want me to do, transcribe the entire debate here so that you can deny it - that isn't scholarship. Given that Matatics is a leading man in publishing Catholic Answers as was noted at the outset of the debate and noted by me prior, I would imagine that if you showed some scholarship and tracked it down yourself, you might be able to see I was quoting accurately from the debate. Just a hint. But then you haven't done anything but snipe here so assuming you could show scholarship may be asking too much.